X3 Soundtrack Question

[Yodaman]

I finally got the X3 soundtrack yesterday, and it was a pretty good score. However, I have a couple of questions about the track names. The name of track 20 (St. Lupus Day) and the name of track 22 (Shock and No Oars) make absolutely no sense to me. Does anyone know why they're called this?

 

[BMM]

I finally got the X3 soundtrack yesterday, and it was a pretty good score. However, I have a couple of questions about the track names. The name of track 20 (St. Lupus Day) and the name of track 22 (Shock and No Oars) make absolutely no sense to me. Does anyone know why they're called this?

I believe Shock and No Oars is referencing Magneto moving the Golden Gate Bridge.

Shock = the reaction to Magneto's moving the bridge
No Oars = Magneto traveling across the San Francisco Bay by unconventional means (not by boat?)

...or I could be completely wrong.

 

[Abaddon]

Yeah "no oars" sounds like a play on "look, no arms!"

 

[_BB_]

St Lupus Day is a mystery to everyone i think.

 

[04nbod]

lupus means wolf so its a wolverine thing- like everything

 

[_BB_]

But wolves are in no way related to wolverines

 

[flavio_lebeau]

But wolves are in no way related to wolverines

They are in X2

 

[PeRfEcT_StOrM]

St. Lupus Day is confusing as hell. I hate that name. LOL it just annoys the crap out of me.

 

[04nbod]

But wolves are in no way related to wolverines

thats down to wolverines name being horribly unsuitable- wolverine has the powers of a wolf as his primary mutation along with healing. That would be enhanced senses.

edit= that totally didn't prove my point i know, but it is meant to be associated with wolves his power lets leave it at that

 

[Yodaman]

I believe Shock and No Oars is referencing Magneto moving the Golden Gate Bridge.

Actually the track right before Shock and No Oars is called "Building Bridges", so I don't think that's what it's referencing.

 

[_BB_]

thats down to wolverines name being horribly unsuitable- wolverine has the powers of a wolf as his primary mutation along with healing. That would be enhanced senses.

edit= that totally didn't prove my point i know, but it is meant to be associated with wolves his power lets leave it at that

Lol, well if you read Wolverine's Origin short series you'll know why he's called Wolverine; the name actually suits his personality very well and has nothing really to do with his powers.

He interacts with the wolves a lot during Origins, running off with them to hunt most of the nights and so developing his tracking abilities and overall physique. He runs off with the Wolves at the end of the series if I remember rightly and his history after that is unknown for a period until we see him in the War with captain america. So I can understand the links made between him and the wolves in the movies but "St Lupus Day" i just dont get. There is actually a St. Lupus but theres nothing there to link to the movie. I must be some kind of John Powell thing.

 

[X-Maniac]

thats down to wolverines name being horribly unsuitable- wolverine has the powers of a wolf as his primary mutation along with healing. That would be enhanced senses.

edit= that totally didn't prove my point i know, but it is meant to be associated with wolves his power lets leave it at that

Are you aware that there is such an animal as a wolverine?

I ask because your post sort of hinted that you didn't know. And a TV presenter in the UK thought 'wolverine' was an adjective meaning 'wolf-like'. (the word for 'wolf-like' is 'lupine' and for fox-like it is 'vulpine')

A wolverine is an animal - small, stocky and ferocious. That's why comicbook Wolverine has the name. The movie version is a bit tall...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...olverine&start=2&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=2
http://www.thewebsiteofeverything.com/animals/mammals/Carnivora/Mustelidae/Gulo/Gulo-gulo.html

 

[WideAwake]

I don't with which scene the track "St. Lupus Day" belongs, but I believe Lupus is the condition where the body attacks healthy cells. Basically, the body is allergic to itself. This could be translated into the concept of the cure, and two branches of humankind trying to exterminate each other.

I'm probably thinking this through way too much, but with those artistic people, one may never know

 

[WideAwake]

Damn double post...

 

[Loganbabe]

I'm probably thinking this through way too much, but with those artistic people, one may never know

I think it´s the best explanation...whenever I read St. Lupus I never think about wolves, but about the name of some diseases. So it certainly has something to do with the "cure", mutant cells attacking other mutant cells to "cure". Even tough the sapiens try talking about mutation in a P.C. way, it shows many of them still see mutation as a "disease".

 

[Loganbabe]

double post

 

[Deep Thinkin'!]

It's about the time that Magneto gives his speech in the woods. I believe it's played during that time, cause it somewhat matches Logan's reaction to it all and seeing Jean.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

One more question: after Logan gives his Cyclop-esque speech to Bobby and they head off to Alcatraz with the X-jet flying, the music that plays in the movie is great, the X-men theme is present in a very nice way. But it's not in the soundtrack. Can anyone tell me if I'm wrong, and if this part is on the soundtrack, in which song it happens?

 

[BMM]

One more question: after Logan gives his Cyclop-esque speech to Bobby and they head off to Alcatraz with the X-jet flying, the music that plays in the movie is great, the X-men theme is present in a very nice way. But it's not in the soundtrack. Can anyone tell me if I'm wrong, and if this part is on the soundtrack, in which song it happens?

I don't believe you're wrong, although I may have missed it as well. Unfortunately, it's typical of soundtracks to not contain all of the music that's featured in the movie. I really like the music playing when Cyclops is first shown in his bedroom, mourning Jean... it's all too short and I don't believe it's on the soundtrack either.

 

[Yodaman]

Also is it just me or during track 13 (Entering the House) the chorus is chanting "Jean Grey, Jean Grey, Jean Grey"?

 

[mclay18]

Actually the track right before Shock and No Oars is called "Building Bridges", so I don't think that's what it's referencing.

"Shock and No Oars" is during when Magneto is levitating the Golden Gate Bridge and the various reactions by people who see it and it ends when the soldiers at Alcaltraz jump out of the building when it's apparent the bridge is going to drop right on them. Part of the choir stuff is toned down in the actual film

And to answer Yodaman's question, the choir is not singing "Jean Grey, Jean Grey, Jean Grey" in track 13. In an interview about the score, John Powell said that the all-female choir sung excerpts from the Requiem Mass, such as Day of Judgment. Powell just looked for some appropriate lyrics to represent Jean Grey/Dark Phoenix.

I have the soundtrack too, and since it was recorded in L.A. and performed by the Hollywood Studio Symphony, a complete score release would've been very costly. All my favorite music is in the album, although I wish the alternate main titles score was included in the CD.