Ye ol' Bought-n'-Thought Hoedown, October 26, 2011 - SPOILERS

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Wow, two threads for last week but it's now the day after comics came out this week and not a peep? Slackers. :o

I've gotten through about half my comics on this very, very large week, so I'll keep my reviews short.

Aquaman: Decent second issue. I like that Aquaman's just going about his superhero business for a little while. Definitely a smart idea to avoid plunging right back into Atlantis stuff right away. My main complaint with this issue, however, is there's just not enough substance. I get that Johns wants to poke fun at all the misconceptions and bulls*** people spout about Aquaman, but it's kind of too much here. Like a third of the issue is just Aquaman and Mera telling people Mera's not "Aquawoman." As a result, this issue feels decompressed as hell and largely unsatisfying because nothing really happens. The Trench come ashore and then bam, the end, tune in next month. Ivan Reis' art continues to be drool-worthy, though.

Wolverine and the X-Men: I went into this with higher hopes than I should be letting myself have for any comic at this point and, surprisingly, it still exceeded them. As ridiculous as Wolverine reopening the school sounds, it actually works in part because of that ridiculousness; I was surprised most of all by how wonderfully funny this issue was. The whole misadventure with the representatives from the New York Board of Education that acts as a guided tour through the new school in this issue was hilarious. Toad's sad whining about his lack of a bed was chuckle-worthy. Broo's presence was awesome (even though it exposed Kitty as a total racist) because I was hoping someone would do something with him after Gage's Astonishing X-Men arc. Kid Gladiator and Deathbird were an odd surprise that quickly became a pleasant one. Beast being Beast is always welcome. Bachalo's art ties it all together by bringing both bold, strong visuals and a youthful, sometimes goofy exuberance that perfectly suits the school atmosphere. I guess I didn't realize it before, but my enjoyment of the X-Men is really tied to the school. It sure as hell beats the hyper-militarized nonsense they've been doing with Cyclops these past few years.

Green Lantern: New Guardians: Take everything I said about Aquaman's second issue and reverse it for this series'. The first issue of New Guardians felt a little spare to me, since I already know Kyle's origin and I got the idea that all the corps' rings were flocking to him after the second example they showed. This issue, however, is packed to the brim with plot. Kyle is forced to fight off representatives of four of the six other corps while still completely clueless as to why the rings are flocking to him in the first place. He manages to ditch them with the help of Saint Walker, the only one who takes Kyle at his word that he's completely clueless. They head to Oa for answers and reminisce about how great Ganthet is along the way. Then they get to Oa and find Ganthet emotionally lobotomized! That was a real "oh snap!" plot twist for me, and it restored some faith that I'm reading REBELS' Tony Bedard instead of Green Lantern Corps' Tony Bedard. The issue ends somewhat more predictably, with all of the rings hopping on Kyle's fingers in the midst of the Guardians. Still, great setup for the next issue. This series is hitting all the right notes for me so far, especially in its exploration of Kyle and Ganthet's relationship. Can't wait to see what comes next. (Although I hope Kirkham can keep up or they've got fill-ins ready to go. He already had to split this issue with Tolibao, and it's only #2!)

Avengers Academy: This is a transitional issue in every sense of the word. At the end of it all, Veil, Speedball, and Justice are out and a whole mess of new kids are in while the Academy itself moves to the old West Coast Avengers compound after the Infinite Mansion's destruction. As much as I loved the Infinite Mansion, I'm glad to see the Academy take on a physical location in the world. I'm also excited to see who the new staffers will be and I'm looking forward to the Avengers Academy/Jean Grey School for Higher Learning crossover that's just begging to be done now. I also hope we get some follow-up on Veil and what she's doing in Morally Ambiguous Corporate Lad's company someday.

Avengers Solo: As good as I expected. Great start to a mystery that pulls Hawkeye out of his comfort zone (with a little cameo by Millie the Model, no less), and another great story about Avengers Academy. What's not to love?

Journey into Mystery: Back on track after its slight dip in quality due to Fear Itself. This issue we're treated to something I've been aching to see for the longest time: a reminder that Volstagg is, in fact, a family man with a wife he genuinely loves and kids coming out his ears (also, that he's nearly as old as Odin). His triumphant return to them and his story of how the Serpent was vanquished is both funny and a bit tragic due to Volstagg's attempts to conceal the magnitude of what really happened and so retain his children's innocence. There's a wonderful parallel in Volstagg's dialogue about said innocence to Loki and his second childhood, too. Gillen weaves it all together really well, as usual. These JiM issues come off like modern-day parables, which totally suits the nature of the series. Richard Elson draws this issue and, while he's no Breitweiser, he's also no Portacio. I'm thankful for one of those two things; care to guess which? ;)

The Mighty Thor: We finally get a story exploring just who the f*** the Serpent is, but sadly it's too little, too late. All Fraction winds up doing here is showing us more of the same. The Serpent's bad because... he likes fear. The Serpent had a bunch of cronies in the Worthy who... stood around and looked tough back in the day before he shoved them into their hammers and scattered them. Odin finally stopped the Serpent by... chopping up a bunch of people and then talking to the Serpent for a little while. There's nothing to actually show us any insight into the depth of the Serpent's evil or why Odin, who's only too happy to be a dick and rely on intimidation plenty of the time, was so dead-set against him. On top of all that, he f***s up Bor's death, Sleipnir's existence, Odin's sacrifice to the World Tree, and the spelling of Ve's name. This comic is pretty much a disgrace at this point. Fraction's down there with Ellis competing for all-time worst Thor writer, as far as I'm concerned.

Annihilators: Earthfall: Decent issue. I like that there's at least some exploration of character relationships going on, as you would expect of a fight between the Avengers and several major characters who've had dealings with them, both as allies and enemies, before. But the majority of it centers on Quasar and Kree/Skrull War stuff. No mention whatsoever of Beta Ray Bill's being an oathbrother to Thor, a founding Avenger--not even from Valkyrie, who never even says a word to Bill throughout the issue. So that's a personal pet peeve for me. But the rest of the issue is still good. Better than I was expecting based on the mere concept of "Avengers vs. Annihilators." The Universal Church of Truth remains the real enemy, and there is a bit of nice work done comparing the Annihilators' incursion on Earth to the Avengers' dodgy history with interstellar conflicts, from butting in where they weren't wanted in the Kree/Skrull War to ignoring the massive conflagrations of recent years like the Annihilation War and the War of Kings. The cliffhanger is intriguing if only because it's somewhat questionable how the heroes are supposed to deal with a threat in that package, so to speak. The Rocket/Groot backup was decent too, but it didn't feel like it got much done. Rocky and Groot are aware of Mojo's manipulations by the end of this issue, though, so at least we won't have another issue of them just bumbling around without a clue.

Venom: Yep, I'm actually reading Venom now. I know, it's shocking to me too. Equally as shocking is that this issue is really good. It's a bit busy, granted, with the letter from Flash's dad battling for attention against the Queen's dialogue for a little while, but that's not too bad. Captain America shows up for a nice save against the Queen. There's not a lot of time for bonding between the two in this issue, but there is some and Remender uses it well. The issue ends on a cliffhanger that I won't see the resolution to, since I'm not reading ASM, but I'll be glad to put this Spider-Island stuff behind me and get on with Flash's regular story again. Tom Fowler's art is great. I remember disliking his work on Green Arrow, but I guess it must suit this series better because it kicks ass here.

Daredevil: Another great issue. Matt works to protect his client, we get a glimpse of this new villain whose schtick is to apparently want to fight every bona fide badass in the entire Marvel universe, and the pieces of the puzzle of what Matt's really up against start to come together. Just solid work all around from Waid and Martin and everyone else involved. It's a real shame this isn't selling better. It's one of the best comics Marvel's publishing right now. (I can't believe I'm saying that about Daredevil.)

Incorruptible: Max Damage is awesome. Plain and simple. He's been betrayed at every turn, he's having a b**** of a time getting Coalville back on its feet, the few remaining rich, powerful would-be leaders of the world are doing everything in their considerable power to f*** with him, and then... the f***ing Plutonian returns like a ton of bricks right on top of Max's head. Yet he still manages to be awesome:
Plutonian: You're enjoying this?
Max: You aren't?
:D I love this series.

Angel and Faith: Another great issue in this series. I love these two as the outcasts of the Buffyverse, and Gage knows these characters' voices really well. It's been a very long time since I've been reminded of how clever and well-versed in mysticism Angel is, but Gage does it here. Faith's revelation that she's "the rational one" to both Angel and the British Slayers was handled equally well. Only thing that gave me pause was Faith's seemingly sudden decision to end Angel's monster-making ways, but then I realized that was probably referencing her idea of using the Mohra blood to force humanity and thus redemption on him rather than her attempting to kill him, and then it made a lot more sense. Isaacs' art is excellent as well. I hope to see her on more stuff when she's done here.

I, Vampire: Another surprisingly good issue. This would've easily been a series I scoffed at and never gave a second glance to on my own, so I'm glad some others spoke so highly of it and convinced me to give it a try. Andrew and Mary's melodrama continues, only we get to see it from Mary's perspective this time. It seems what we're looking at between #1 and #2 is the opening salvo of both Mary and Andrew's respective wars: Mary's horde's slaughter of a whole town of humans, Andrew's retaliatory slaughter of the vampire horde who did the first slaughtering. Gothically tragic romance is sprinkled generously throughout, but it's not as cloying and trite as it usually is--I don't know, maybe it's because a lot of it takes place on a literal mound of dead bodies. The artist does a great job too; at first I thought Sorrentino was a blatant Jae Lee ripoff, but while there are obvious overtones of Lee's style, Sorrentino is competent enough to make it her own. It absolutely suits the tone of the book so far, too. I'm so surprised at how much I'm enjoying this series already that I can hardly imagine how much better it'll get when the superheroes start showing up.

The Walking Dead: Kirkman's tense cliffhanger is once again resolved with a lot of talking in this issue. I don't want to sound like a crass action junkie who can't appreciate a story without blood because TWD is definitely still good; it just struck me a bit this week how often Kirkman has his characters monologue for damn near the whole issue. Rick monologues at Nicholas for a while, then he monologues at Carl for a while, then he monologues at Andrea for a while. Finally, the issue ends with something I'm sure we've all seen coming for a while: Rick and Andrea swapping spit. It's nice and it makes sense. I'm a lot more interested in Glenn and Maggie's issues, though. They're the couple who's survived the longest, it just occurred to me in this issue. How weird, given that Glenn came off kind of asexual at first and Maggie was a total b**** at first.
 
I was going to make one yesterday afternon... I went to the shop at 10 am to get my Spider-Island books... and then decided against making one after JewHob brushed my teeth last week... :cmad: :cmad: :cmad:

:o
 
I haven't read much yet, but I figured I'd give it a shot...


Aquaman #2: I was kinda let down by this issue. "Decent" is a perfect way to describe it. It wasn't bad in anyway, but at the same time, it definitely lacked that "wow" factor that a really good issue has. While I thought it was clever how Johns approached Aquaman's bad reputation in the first issue. It was a good nod to the fans and real-world doubters.

But I really hoped he would have moved past that in this issue. Instead we're still treated to normal people treating Arthur as if he's the Ashton Kutcher of the superhero world...and really isn't all that interesting. I really didn't need to here that Mera isn't Aquawoman at three different points in a 20 page comic.

Outside of that, the villainous maneating sea creatures Johns is introducing seem pretty cool. And the issue did seem to set up some really good moments for the third issue when Arthur's taken to "The Trech".

I also have to note, I've been pretty underwhelmed with Reis' art so far. I'm not too knowledable on art, so I could be talking out of my ass, but the inking just doesn't seem as strong as it was during his GL/Blackest Night days.


The Flash #2: I'm still shocked and amazed at how good Manapul is making this title. Thinking about it, this rebooted Flash could've been nothing more than an even more emo doer of Spider-Man's Brand New Day. It could have been Johns' uber depressed Barry moping around without the grounding of his 300+ issues, and all of his supporting cast rendered bland through the complete easing of Barry's entire life history.

But, luckily enough, it isn't at all. Somehow Manapul has captured a great vibe with the book. That does have some shades of classic Spider-Man's lightheartedness, but also nods to The Spirit, and of course Barry's own past comics. Manapul's actually made him a character that you could feel invested in, which is something that legitimately hasn't been done in 20 years.

As for the actual plot of the issue and arc - it's a pretty strong mystery/sci-fi detective story that has shades of Johns' run last year - but in a good way - showcasing Barry's skills both as a speedster and as a police scientist.


I also want to lament that would've loved to read Wolverine and the X-Men and Incredible Hulk...but I couldn't bring myself to fork over the 8 bucks. :o
 
Oh yeah, while I won't get into it... the conclusion to ASM: Spider-Island was pure awesomeness... I wished they could have added a few more pages to part 6 to make it seem less "rushed", but all parties reading ASM right now should be happy with the way this story ended on ALL notes...

As some other poster said in the Spidey Comics Forum... this was the best Spidey story in 20 years.

At this point, I'm not going to argue... for all my minor quips and complaints as the story went on, the end was absolutely fantastic.

Thanks Dan... :up:

:yay:
 
Spider Island did finish really, really strong. I'm looking forward to see what Dan does next. He pretty much covered every little plot thread he threw out there since Big Time started with the exception of Hobgoblin and Morbius. I kinda missed Carlie this issue. I figured she would turn up at the end, her fate is kinda unknown (unless you read the preview for next issue that came out today).

And Avengers Academy had a brilliant ending to it's first "major" chapter of the titles life. Avengers Academy in the old West Coast Avengers mansion = PURE AWESOME!
 
Twelve books, ten of them from Marvel. This feast-or-famine schedule is getting frustrating. Sure, one of them was the VAMPIRES: MARVEL UNDEAD handbook, but still. At any rate, 11 spoiler filled reviews ahoy, which I will chop up.

DREAD'S BOUGHT/THOUGHT FOR 10/26/11: - No Man Is A Spider-Island

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #672: With a heaping pile of comics this week, choosing this week's top pick wasn't easy by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, in a smaller week with a lesser story, either DAREDEVIL #5 or AVENGERS ACADEMY #20 would have taken that top spot of the heap. But in the end, AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #672 wins out for one critical reason - it is the anti-FEAR ITSELF. What does that mean? This issue "officially" wraps up the SPIDER-ISLAND crossover event, although technically there is an epilogue issue up in November. It was very much a crossover event, "minor" or not; it crossed over into several ongoing series (VENOM, BLACK PANTHER, HERC) as well as spawning four one-shot's and three spare mini-series. It featured an over-the-top crisis, a finale involving a giant monster, and dozens of cameo appearances by no end of superheroes, from the Avengers to the FF to the Immortal Weapons to the X-Men to Firestar. Certain chapters did seem to devolve into massive group brawls and sheer chaos on the page. However, unlike FEAR ITSELF, writer Dan Slott manages to pull it all together into something that many crossover events fail to become; a story. It has critical characters; it has a clear beginning, middle, and end; it has clear foreshadowing; it even mingled a lot of drama and suspense with some humor and one-liners. Even some of the tie-in's were "important", yet the core ASM arc recaps all the essential bits. Dan Slott manages to weave together long term and recent continuity within this title and others to make it all work in a tapestry of awesome. While there are a few hiccups, SPIDER-ISLAND has delivered in a way that no other "event" has from Marvel since THANOS IMPERATIVE ended. Even the scene on the cover technically occurs within!

Things pick up with a bang from the previous issue, in which Spider-Man struggled for his life and the lives of all the "spider-ized" New Yorkers against Kaine. In this issue, the Queen - the true mastermind of this scheme behind the Jackal - transforms into a 28 story Spider-Queen monster set to rampage across the island and kill everyone. Having a Marvel crossover event end with the villain transforming into a giant has become a bit old hat; recent examples include CAPTAIN AMERICA REBORN (2009-2010) and ANNIHILATION CONQUEST (2007-2008), and even FEAR ITSELF ended with a fight against a giant monster. Mr. Fantastic has a cure for the "spider-virus" at Horizon Labs, but it is useless if nobody is alive to administer it, and the task of administering it to millions of New Yorkers while they and their Spider-Queen rampage throughout is a Herculean task. While Hercules wasn't able to figure out how to save everyone, Spider-Man does. Meanwhile, Kaine is cured of his clone degeneration as well as his additional mutations by Jackal and fills in for Spider-Man at the big battle in Central Park while Peter Parker and MJ - now with super-powers - attempt to pull off the Hail Mary pass atop the Empire State Building. Tying together elements from the start of Slott's solo BIG TIME run from last November as well as bits from ASM #600 and even further back, it fulfills a lesson that seems to come up too infrequently in Spider-Man stories; it's more than a costume and super-powers that make him one of Marvel's greatest heroes. Peter Parker's will, imagination, and intelligence will always be just as potent as being able to lift ten tons or swing across a block. The tale finds a good way to dust off an old 90's relic in Kaine, it makes good use of a new villain (circa 2004) like Queen as well as provides a final panel that even the most jaded and cynical "Spider-marriage" fan will find sweet.

The artwork is handled by Humberto Ramos on pencils, Edgar Delgado on colors, and Victor Olazaba and Karl Kesal double-teaming on inks. Ramos' style is exaggerated to a degree and not for everyone, and issues in which he is in a rush tend to show it a tad. He works best with monsters or inhuman looking figures, and SPIDER-ISLAND has provided many of those from standard spider-monsters to the gigantic Spider-Queen himself to good ol' Ben Grimm. Ramos also excels with facial expressions; while simple, his figures never look stiff or static, but always in motion. Ramos' current work on AMAZING SPIDER-MAN has been superior to his older work with the character at the start of the decade.

There are some quibbles, or rather observations to address. While the banter between Peter Parker and Kaine is very enjoyable, Kaine seems to be acting quite unlike himself. In prior material from the 90's, he was nowhere near as jovial, jokey, or upbeat - he was the epitome of grim anti-hero back then. Given that he may very well be the star of the upcoming SCARLET SPIDER spin off series, this could be seen as an attempt to make Kaine act like Ben Reilly - the more famous clone who was axed off at the end of 1998's REVELATIONS. Reviving Reilly would be a chore even by comic book standards - he was killed and his corpse turned to dust on panel - but merely having Reilly return "in spirit" within Kaine may offend some. The fact that Kaine was once physically larger than Peter Parker apparently is also something "cured" within him. The two have a nice banter, and establishing Kaine as "the darker Spider-Man" willing to kill will likely become ore for his own series - although VENOM currently covers similar ground. Much like FEAR ITSELF, there is one figure in the story who could have ended the threat in the first issue with better tactics and planning; the difference is Julia Carpenter's ineffectiveness as a psychic prophet and guide is acknowledged and even thrown in her face. To contrast, in FEAR ITSELF, the fact that Odin didn't simply kill "The Serpent" when he was weak or hand magic armor to Thor and the heroes immediately is never addressed or acknowledged. Finally, the sequence in which Peter and MJ get to fight side-by-side is fascinating compared to similar scenes with Carlie Cooper in the first half of this event. Despite Cooper being trained by the NYPD, Peter lectured her assistance at every turn and preferred if she stayed behind. Mary Jane, who is merely a model and B-movie actress who is good with an occasional right hook or can or hair-spray, didn't get a peep out of the overprotective Peter. More to the point, the major dramatic and emotional moment that Peter has in this event happens alongside MJ, which begs the question: what was the point of "unmarrying" them? If MJ is to serve the same role as emotional bedrock to Peter that she did as wife in every story that matters (and even many that don't), what was the point of allowing Peter to have interchangeable Designated Girlfriends again? The fact that Peter and MJ worked so well together in scenes just like what is offered was the justification for their marriage enduring for so long. In fairness, Slott is wise to keep MJ as a critical character in this series, rather than pretend she didn't exist, like a lot of BRAND NEW DAY material seemed to from 2008-2009.

Despite some warts, SPIDER-ISLAND has been a success as both an AMAZING SPIDER-MAN story as well as a Marvel crossover event, at a time when such a thing is even more appreciated.

SPIDER-ISLAND: CLOAK & DAGGER #3: Basically, Mr. Negative gets Cloak and Dagger to switch powers, and goes home while they angst about it. Why did he spare a girl who was psychically foretold to slay him? Because he made a deal with Cloak & Dagger's old enemy, the demon D'Spyre. That's essentially the plot summary of this issue. While this is a SPIDER-ISLAND series, that event plays little part in Nick Spencer's story and essentially occurs in the background. Yet why does this issue, and series, still work overall? Nick Spencer has a solid handle on the characters, and Emma Rios' art is truly beautiful - very close to a "shojo manga" style like CLAMP without going too far with it. Javier Rodriguez's colors are very solid, too.

The idea of having Dagger and Cloak swap powers is a bit of an odd idea, but such things have hardly been rare for them. They were once claimed to be mutants and attached to the X-Men for a while, after all. Cloak was once dead and Dagger was once blind. While sold as a spare 3 part mini series for SPIDER-ISLAND, this reads very much as an opening arc to an ongoing series run, and had Marvel as much balls as DC does right now, they'd have done so. It's hard for Marvel to brag about being daring when DC claimed to give a new OMAC or HAWK & DOVE series a 12 issue commitment. If Marvel did announce a Spencer/Rios/Rodriguez CLOAK & DAGGER series, I'd be on board for it immediately.

SPIDER-ISLAND: DEADLY HANDS OF KUNG-FU #3: An odd story, this. It reads very much like Antony Johnston wanted to write an IMMORTAL WEAPONS story, but had to find a way to weave it around SPIDER-ISLAND and it's "spider" themes. Either he or editorial decided to focus it around Shang Chi; given that Chi was featured by Dan Slott in AMAZING SPIDER-MAN a few times in the run-up to SPIDER-ISLAND, it was probably the latter. Naturally, Chi himself was a cult 1970's figure, so there is always nostalgia for him. Thus, Shang Chi is involved in some things that really don't involve him; he turns into a spider due to crossover obligation, and he gets involved in an Immortal Weapons story for little reason other than he and Iron Fist are pals and fellow martial arts heroes.

A few of the SPIDER-ISLAND mini's used the crossover as an excuse to focus on characters who had arachnid or insect themes; AMAZING SPIDER-GIRL went into that whole hog, and even the SPIDER-WOMAN one shot dusted off Gypsy Moth for the first time since she stopped showing up in THUNDERBOLTS. Thus the villain of this piece is Ai Apaec, a spider-god-man who first appeared in OSBORN earlier in the year. Same as the Queen from 2004 is amped by this event, so this story gives him a second appearance. It makes sense and because he's a new character, Johnston is allowed liberties for him. The Queen promised him Bride of Nine Spiders if he aided her in capturing the Immortal Weapons for a feast, but now that everyone's free, it's time for a fight. The Immortal Weapons are exhausted from their ordeal, which leaves Shang Chi to do most of the fighting - which is hampered as he progressively mutates into a spider-monster. Let the record show that this mini had Iron Fist use his "healing chi" to completely purge the infection from Shang just as well as Anti-Venom's "cure" did - only it took so much out of Rand that he could only have done it once. This, however, begs the question of why either Dr. Strange or Elixir from Academy X couldn't have fixed this virus, either. Dr. Strange literally cured brain cancer when he had a reason to, once.

The art by Sebastian Fiumara and Leandro Fernandez is very good, with terrific colors by Dan Brown. The fight itself degenerates into a "trick the stupid monster into collapsing the house upon itself", but it still is paced well enough that it is fine to read. I feel this series ended better than it began - a rarity for many Marvel stories - but it was still awkward. I find Shang a stiff character, and this story had little to do with him beyond obligation. It's akin to those episodes of "BATMAN: BRAVE AND THE BOLD" which are completely about Green Lantern or Aquaman but feature Batman as the star because of contractual obligation.

SPIDER-ISLAND: SPIDER-GIRL #3: Or AMAZING SPIDER-GIRL as the solicitations claimed. This is not only the end of this spare crossover mini series, it also probably marks the end of writer Paul Tobin's run on the character of Arana/Spider-Girl after roughly 12-13 issues. In that regard, it is not a proper finale because it is essentially a large action sequence. However, the theme was that it was a story in which Anya had to compromise on her stern morality a little for the greater good - uniting with the Kingpin and Hobgoblin, and even with the Sisterhood Of The Wasps as well. Most of the book features her and the other characters fighting nameless Wasp-Men, or nameless Spider-Monsters. It seems half of Anya's dialogue is shouting, and half her facial expressions reflect this. At one point Anya screams, "So we hold! WE HOLD!" as if this was a bad LORD OF THE RINGS impersonation. However, in the end it all works as a character building experience, although it doesn't really do much to fix Spider-Girl's complicated power level issue. As her series ended, it was implied that she had only regained her powers because she was bitten by one of Jackal's bugs - only because she was used to the power, she adapted quickly. At the end of the issue she takes the Horizon Labs' "cure", only to spend the final splash panel swinging off on organic webs. So does she have Spider-Man's powers? Her old powers plus organic webs? Or no powers aside for the organic webs? Who bloody knows!? And this wouldn't be irritating if not for the fact that Spider-Girl originally lost her powers via editorial recaps and summaries, not on any story panel.

The artwork by Pepe Larraz is quite good; I recall he drew the last of the NOMAD back-up strips in CAPTAIN AMERICA and his pencils were well suited here. Quite frankly, I wish some of those final issues of SPIDER-GIRL had as much solid and consistent art as this series did; SPIDER-GIRL lost it's regular steady artist by issue #2, and was always drawn by committee until it's cancellation. This was a perfectly fine story, although not an exceptional one. Tobin writes the heroine very well, and regardless of her power situation, it is at least obvious that she has some sort of spider-related powers again, which is a fine place to keep her. Her banter with Kingpin was interesting, and it is always nice to see the new Hobgoblin. It certainly establishes that despite being "new" - also a creation of 2004 - she has formidable experience and battle-poise. It still is a shame that so many of Marvel's heroines are either team book mainstays or feminized versions of male heroes - even if Ms. Marvel has so outlasted Mar-Vell that she may as well be Captain Marvel already - but Arana remains a solid addition to the universe. Her mystical history of Wasps and Spider-Totem stuff was awkward before, but Tobin at least made it work as an action narrative, with ninja.

I liked Tobin's SPIDER-GIRL work, but I always thought some of his choices were awkward. He chose to immediately kill off her father and seem to attach her to characters like Red Hulk or the Fantastic Four (Sue Richards in particular), yet the stories and promotion always attached her to Spider-Man's enemies or left over subplots. This tale at the very least is consistent and thus feels a bit more organic. He's left Spider-Girl a stronger character than where he found her, which isn't something we can always say of writers on franchise characters. Take a bow, Tobin. He's potentially the next Jeff Parker, and hopefully he gets more mainstream work soon.

VENOM #8: It actually is rare to say this, but if one was to read any of the SPIDER-ISLAND tie-in's, this one is it. Rick Remender's series has remained the most important of the crossover tie-in's, likely due to being a successful spin off launch. Reading VENOM was essential for learning who Spider-King was (at least a month before ASM got to it). This issue features the "battle before the battle" - in which Flash Thompson/Venom and Steve Rogers take on the Queen to try to end the crisis. While the continuity of SPIDER-ISLAND is very awkward next to FEAR ITSELF, it likely takes place before since Rogers is still in his "Commander" gear, which he didn't abandon until Bucky died in FEAR ITSELF #3. The Queen as Remender writes her is a bit different, and far more eccentric - which works out in the end. Tim Fowler is doing art duty while Tony Moore gets lead-in time, and the two artists work well off each other. As usual with this series, it's core strength isn't symbiotes or battles it's the lead character and how Remender handles him. Amid the chaos of SPIDER-ISLAND, Flash's alcoholic, abusive father has jerked himself back into Flash's already complicated life as a military super-soldier host to an alien menace. Thompson Sr. did that thing that many terrible relatives do to mess up lives - die and leave unresolved emotions behind on all parties. All the while, Flash has to fight every day to not be a slave to the alien, or not to be seen as merely a handicap in a wheelchair - even by Betty Brant.

So as Flash's dad's death letter provides narration, Venom is tasked with taking out the Queen at all costs. Between her super-soldier training, telekinesis and especially a sonic scream, she has Venom at her mercy until Rogers intervenes. This issue sets up AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #672 perfectly and actually should be read first, although reverse order doesn't mess up much. On the whole, VENOM has been a solid series, whether as crossover to an event or not. The fact that Remender moving to SECRET AVENGERS alone is making me consider jumping back on a $4 an issue series with no direction I ditched and never missed earlier this summer should say all you need to know. Remender utilizes Flash so well as a lead character it's actually amazing it never happened before. Rogers is a little too fast to accept an operative dressed as Venom as an ally, but aside for that, it's great work from start to finish.
 
DREAD'S BOUGHT/THOUGHT FOR 10/26/11 - Kids, Lawyers, the Cosmic and Third Party Publishers

GUARDING THE GLOBE #6: After running at least 3-5 months behind schedule, Robert Kirkman's spare INVINCIBLE mini series spin off is finally over. The previous issue shipped in the middle of July, and this was supposed to be over by the time INVINCIBLE #80 shipped - and heaven knows INVINCIBLE is a series that often barely ships ten times a year. To a degree this issue's finale to its story is hindered by the fact that some bits were naturally spoiled by issues of INVINCIBLE that were on time. But to another degree, this finale is a big mess. The problem is it sets itself up for an all-or-nothing brawl, and then craps out on it with an anti-climax. Even if this had shipped on time, ending a half year's storyline with an anti-climax which merely leads into another story without delivering much of a finale is the sort of folly too many Marvel Comics "events" have done.

Set's army of super-villains, The Order, have ravaged Paris, France and killed millions. How many cities on Kirkman's world have been destroyed? Vegas, Nevada was just wiped out lately in INVINCIBLE. Brit leads the Guardians Of The Globe to fight the Order. He knocks off Set's helmet, Set freaks out because he's some weird freak, he freezes everyone with mental power and...walks away. Brit announces the world is saved despite earning a default victory at best, because the head villain took his ball and went home.

Part of the delay was likely due to Ransom Getty being unable to draw this issue, for some reason. He'd likely fallen so behind that Kirkman and co-writer Benito Cereno got a fill-in artist to complete this series. Thus, Kris Anka pencils this issue, and his work is quite strong and fits in tone with most of the artists in the "Kirkmanverse". But the art isn't the issue. The issue is this series started out simple, got very cluttered, and aside for some chuckles and dynamics, has ended in an underwhelming mess. This is probably the first arc of a comic Kirkman has done that I've been disappointed in since I bailed on his ULTIMATE X-MEN run. I hope it is the last. This wasn't terrible, just drug out too long with an ending that fizzled.

TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES #3: Licensed franchise hoarder IDW continues their relaunch of the former Mirage Studios series, with the original co-creator of the Ninja Turtles, Kevin Eastman, involved with art layouts and story plotting. The script itself is written by Tom Waltz, and the actual artwork is done by Dan Duncan with Rhonda Patterson on colors. Still, the involvement of Eastman in what could have just been another “IDW licensed comic” alongside GHOSTBUSTERS, G.I. JOE and STAR TREK gives this run a sense of legitimacy that many of the others lack. It remains a brilliant P.R. move by IDW, as the drastic changes to the characters’ mythos would have likely seemed more awkward or even bad without the knowledge that the Turtles’ co-creator was involved and approved of it. The new character of Old Hob – a mutant alley cat with an eye patch – in particular seems to be an Eastman creation, according to promotional interviews. While the origin of the Turtles is drastically different, the set-up is established that pairs Raphael alongside Casey Jones right off the bat (pun intended). Given that Eastman’s last TMNT work before now was the BODYCOUNT Image series in the mid-90’s that also paired Raph and Casey, this is also likely a change that he influenced.

This issue is split between two factions of main characters; Raph and Casey becoming crime-fighting partners and friends, along with Splinter and the other three Turtles training and still seeking Raph out. The obvious hook here is the reunion of the four Turtles (and Splinter) is going to be a major event because they’ve been apart since they were splashed by the mutagen ooze; Old Hob (back when he was just an alley cat) made off with “baby Raph”, and he lost his eye in a fight with Splinter. While Foot ninja were involved in the origin, it seems Hob has come close to filling the role that Shredder used to – and I am not sure if that entirely works. However, it does bring up an interesting dynamic. In the original series, Splinter’s initial obsession was getting revenge on Oroku Saki/Shredder for killing Homato Yoshi (his owner/master) and he literally raised the Turtles as assassins to do this deed. In this series, Splinter is obsessed in a similar way with battling Old Hob and finding Raph. The other Turtles all have divided feelings about this; Leo is staunchly loyal to Splinter’s desires, while Donatello questions whether Raph is even alive and believes the search for him is a waste of effort; Mikey is caught in the middle. In the meanwhile, Raph and Casey beat up some muggers and share trivia about home life, before seeming to walk into Old Hob’s trap. Will the four Ninja Turtles be united in the 4th issue?

Having recently read the first 15 or so issues of the original 1980’s TMNT material from Mirage, I can actually spot Eastman’s influence in the page layouts better than I used to. Duncan’s artwork is as solid as ever; not as edgy as the original Mirage material, but now as “cuddly” either. A summary of the IDW TMNT origin may be in order. In this relaunch, the four Turtles and the rat that would be Splinter were experiment animals at Baxtor Stockman’s laboratory, which was seeking to create genetic weapons for a “General Krang”. Krang is head of a banana republic , and whether he is an alien brain or not is unknown. April O’Neil was an intern at the lab and both quickly attached to the critters while stumbling onto the more nefarious implications. At some point, the Foot Ninja were hired to invade the lab and steal all the research, but the rat and Turtles escaped because the rat was “super intelligent” due to experimentation. Along the way, the five were exposed to the mutagen ooze and fell into a sewer. That is where an alley cat came along, separated Raph and also got exposed to ooze and subsequently mutated. All of this happened 15 months ago, in such time Splinter and the three Turtles have all learned martial arts while Raph has lived an amnesic life on the streets, and Old Hob runs a street gang. The decision to leave very little of the original origin intact – from either the 1980’s comics or even the 1990’s cartoon series – is a bold move that may keep long term fans guessing, but could confuse or turn off others. In comparison, while 2000’s ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN did re-invent a lot of things, the core building blocks of the origin remained intact. Even within ULTIMATE X-MEN, Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Iceman, and Beast all were part of the team by the end of the first issue – and those were 80% of the founders from the 60’s version. The character dialogue is quite good and there is ample development for most of them thus far, which is a feat when you consider the cast is about six characters strong; O’Neil has vanished since the flashbacks, and Old Hob is basically the baddie.

Some of the details of this “universe” don’t quite make sense. This is a universe in which there is advanced genetic mutation, real life Ninja and far too many everyday New Yorkers don’t mind mutant animal-people. Raph is able to walk down the streets at night and even buy a hot dog from a vender in nothing but an open trench coat and a hoodie, and Old Hob is a mutant cat who runs a street gang of at least a dozen people who don’t bat an eye about taking orders from him or fighting mutant Turtles and a rat-man. Yet the story feels the need to stop completely and explain to the audience for a full page why Casey Jones feels like pummeling muggers in a hockey mask, as if that’s so bizarre in an already bizarre universe. In this world, Casey’s mother died of cancer and he is victimized by his alcoholic father who he promised to never harm, so he vents by beating up muggers and pays the bills via a college hockey scholarship. So why does he use a baseball bat as a weapon instead of a hockey stick? Hey, don’t open the door if you don’t want someone to wander in. To contrast, in the original 80’s comic, Casey was a very odd man who watched far too many violent vigilante TV shows and decided to pummel criminals because nobody else would. There is no Yoshi or any Asian influence besides the token Foot Ninja appearances, and I haven’t a clue how Splinter learned martial arts, yet.

Despite these hiccups, the character interactions are quite good and distinct, and I rather like the idea of having the family be split up for now, with a reunification being the goal of the first arc. Him acting as Raph’s adopted brother (of sorts) actually makes him more essential to the cast here, which I personally don’t mind. Regardless of the changes to the old origin, this is a more bold TMNT relaunch than some may have expected, which mixes both old and new ideas into an ambitious whole.

AVENGERS ACADEMY #20: It seems every issue appears on this review column at some point each month, right? As used to be said about NOVA, that is simply because it is always that consistently good, as written by underrated Marvel scribe Christos Gage. Billed as a FEAR ITSELF tie in issue, the events of the final issue is paid lip service two in the first few pages. The real focus of this issue is on the aftermath of the last, in which Veil decided to quit. As I predicted a few times, manipulative super-powered tycoon Jeremy Briggs from issue #14.1 becomes involved (http://www.examiner.com/comic-books...11-the-crossover-tie-s-that-mattered-review-1). The real strength of this issue is that it takes a plot which is standard in team series - a roster shift - and makes it work as a character focus and building exercise. Veil doesn't just exit stage left; the rest of the cast center around her to offer opinion, and she gets a lot of time to explain her decision. It turns out she isn't the only person leaving the cast; the two former New Warriors who served as mentors have also decided to split. As the book is geared to enter it's second year in publication, Gage is shifting the location to California and making it seem more like a school by introducing more characters to the cast - which include his AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE creation Butterball alongside old characters like Lightspeed from POWER PACK and newer ones like Juston Seyfert from 2003's SENTINEL series.

In the letter column, Gage promises that the extended cast won't divert focus from his core Academy cadets; and given how well he managed to juggle a few dozen characters in AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE from 2009-2010, that isn't an empty promise. Tom Raney continues on regular art chores (which he rotates with Sean Chen), alongside Scott Hanna on inks and Jeromy Cox on colors. There is very little action for Raney this time, but he proves just as effective with the more quiet moments. The future remains bright for this title, so long as sales remain north of cancellation range. This remains on of Marvel's best "new young heroes" series since the peak of RUNAWAYS half a decade ago. Much as Gage managed to turn an obligatory crossover tie-in into a compelling arc, he has made a routine roster shuffle into a strong character piece. The series earns it's double A initials.

DAREDEVIL #5: As one of a few Marvel series not currently involved in some sort of crossover - although not for long - Mark Waid's relaunch of the Man Without Fear is proving to be a sleeper hit from Marvel and one of their best relaunches since, perhaps, IMMORTAL IRON FIST. No longer is the character dour, depressing, and bleak, but this hasn't meant the end of urban adventures. Waid presents short arcs revolving around mysteries that utilize the full scope of the Marvel Universe, from Klaw last arc to Latveria and various evil Marvel organizations. Murdock's choice to look into why a fellow blind person was let go from a company under unknown circumstances. Matt and his client have stumbled upon a conspiracy that now threatens both their lives - but Daredevil naturally has many tricks up his sleeve. When a gang of killers fail, the guilty parties sic a masked super-goon with the generic name of "Bruiser" after them, which will make the next issue even more exciting. Just as key as Waid's top notch storytelling and dialogue is the artwork by Marcos Martin and Paolo Rivera, who rotate as regular artists. These past two issues have been by Martin, and AMAZING SPIDER-MAN's loss is DAREDEVIL's gain. This book, visually, looks nothing like any book on the stands in a good way. DAREDEVIL's artwork hasn't been this striking and distinct since the runs of Frank Miller, John Romita Sr. or Jr., or even Gene Colan. To describe an issue of DAREDEVIL under the Waid/Martin/Rivera run is akin to trying to review a concert or a party - the best way to know it is to experience it for themselves. Bruiser may be a generic villain, but the overall narrative is both simple and compelling, with artwork that displays the action and details of Daredevil's powers like no other book does. While sales have not rebounded for DAREDEVIL as Marvel would have liked, it is the sort of run that should not be read months later in trades after a desperate relaunch has ended it in its prime - it is a run that should be embraced monthly, in the here and now. For too long, the franchise has cyclically rehashed Frank Miller's 1980's opus into near parody; Waid, Martin, and Rivera have finally shaken off those chains and are boldly forging new ground. In fact, if any piece of work showcases how DAREDEVIL could work as a weekly TV series - a mix of a legal and masked crime fighter procedural - it is this run.

ANNIHILATORS: EARTHFALL #2: The issue in which the Annihilators fight the Avengers. Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning continue with their space opus, and I wonder if they'll return to NOVA once the character - or someone from his legacy - is revived in POINT ONE #1 next month. At any rate, ANNIHILATORS remains okay, and this series is probably stronger than the last, but the fact that "DnA" have less passion for this cast than the cast of NOVA or GOTG seems obvious. The Universal Church of Truth is planning something nefariously bad for the entire cosmos, and while this resulted in raids on other planets, Quasar naturally is stymied when Earth soon becomes one of them. The Church aliens - and their human pawns - trick the Avengers into thinking the Annihilators are attacking random civilians, which cues a showdown. The impression is that Earth's heroes are over-vigilant against aliens after SECRET INVASION - and the fact that the Annihilators include folks the Avengers have battled before like Ronan or Gladiator doesn't help. What's the Church's big bad plan? Revive the Magus, what else?

The fight against the Avengers and Annihilators goes as expected, but it isn't worse than that. There is some amusing dialogue, and the battle isn't too embarrassing for any side. I do have to say, "DnA" chose an eclectic band of Avengers. They have most of the AVENGERS (Cap, Iron Man, Red Hulk, Spider-Man), and the NEW AVENGERS (Ms. Marvel, Thing, Spider-Man, Wolverine), and Valkyrie from the SECRET AVENGERS. As usual with these sort of misunderstanding brawls, it revolves around the idea of superheroes being too hot-headed to think. And while I can understand Red Hulk, Wolverine, and even Thing to a degree being hot-headed, this still bares some questions. Why doesn't Valkyrie recognize Beta Ray Bill as Thor's brother-in-arms and allow him a second to speak? Why don't Cap or Iron Man do likewise with Quasar, who was considered a reserve Avenger on semi-active duty on a space station even into 2006? Of all heroes, it's Spider-Man who gets to the root of the matter, and the Church makes it easier on themselves when a few of them suit up and start blasting. Hawkeye is on the cover, but not within. Tan Eng Huat draws some good fight scenes, and I think his work is better here than it was on GHOST RIDER or even the last mini series.

ROCKET & GROOT continues with Timothy Green II on art, and while it's fun, it isn't as memorable. Rocket and Groot are now pawns in one of Mojo's mad TV schemes, which would seem more fresh had he not just been the baddie of the recently resolved ASTONISHING SPIDER-MAN & WOLVERINE. "DnA" have more flair for this strip, and it is quite funny, although it feels a bit random. I would like to see other discarded space characters from prior stories than these two. Overall, ANNIHILATORS: EARTHFALL is actually looking better than ANNIHILATORS was, but it's not of the heights that NOVA and GOTG were.

FF #11: It only took a major crisis in which the Thing ditched the team and a near catastrophic betrayal, as well as last second random intervention, for Mr. Fantastic, the smartest man in the Marvel Universe, to realize uniting villains to solve problems is bad. If THIS is the smartest man Marvel has, then it's no wonder they're such a backward universe that still lynches mutant children in broad daylight or trusts only the evil and corrupt. Jonathan Hickman uses this issue as he uses many - as a step on the slow march towards a story that never end or sees a climax. On the plus side, Barry Kitson (and a HORDE of "finishers") does fill in art for Epting, and for some reason I prefer Kitson's art on FF. Steve Epting was great on CAPTAIN AMERICA, but for some reason Kitson on FF just rocks for me. That, or I miss THE ORDER that much. Paul Mounts does the colors as always.

Events? Reed notices Val and the rest of the Foundation class are building a gadget. Ronan - in an appearance which clashes 180 degrees from ANNIHILATORS - has retaken the Kree Empire, broken ties with the Inhumans (aside for Crystal, the loyal wife) and sacrifices two "evil Reeds" to revive the Supreme Intelligence. The revived Annihilus plans another attack on Manhattan, with the Baxtor Building at the center of the bullseye. And Reed does what he should have done NINE ISSUES AGO and turned to all of his brilliant superhero friends for help. The actual showcase of those pals is the subject of a great two page spread, and some of the choices are obvious, some clever, and some just bizarre.

The obvious choices? Fellow Illuminati such as Dr. Strange, Namor, and Iron Man. The combined cast of AVENGERS and NEW AVENGERS. Fellow geniuses Hank Pym, T'Challa, Beast, and, cleverly, Shadowcat (whose intellect has often gone ignored). Former member She-Hulk and associates Spider-Girl and Arana, and Tigra is there for Hank. Firestar is there with Gravity. Oddities? Red Hulk being universally trusted - especially in the same series that linked the Four to Spider-Girl - is absurd and smacks of zero editorial continuity. Daredevil is there, and aside for Mark Waid reviving both their franchises once, I haven't the foggiest idea why. But the most bizarre for me? Iceman. Out of all spare X-Men to have there aside for Shadowcat, Beast, and Wolverine, Hickman picks ICEMAN!? The only connection is Jeff Parker's X-MEN: FIRST CLASS retconned him as being a brief friend of Johnny's, but even that is tenius. He's an accountant who never uses his power well, hasn't had a subplot in years and hasn't left the X-Men since the 1980's. Why not one of the X-Club, or Elixir, or Professor X even? What's Iceman going to do, throw a snowball at something?

A fine issue, neither memorable or insulting. The series isn't offending me right now, nor is it exciting me. A gentle apathy is forming, and hopefully the next issues either change or confirm that so I can decide to crap or get off the pot.
 
One addendum to my Aquaman review: Someone mentioned after issue #1 that the Trench might've been more intimidating if we couldn't understand them--i.e. instead of having translations of what they're saying in narration boxes, we just had their alien gibberish and had to guess what they were talking about based on the context. I fully agree with that sentiment as of #2. The Trench already seem kind of familiar and less interesting because I know they're just obsessed with "food" all the time. Might've been better to let Reis' amazing art do the talking.

Justice League Dark: Second issue was definitely better than the first. We start to see some cohesion in the various characters' seemingly disparate plots. I could've done without the sexual awkwardness between Deadman and Dove, but their story starts leading into the main one the most when June Moon turns up on their doorstep. We also finally get an explanation about who the hell June Moon is, for those of us who know pretty much dick about the Enchantress. Zatanna dives headfirst into conflict with the Enchantress while her ex, John Constantine, senses something's up with her and mystically investigates. Pretty easy to see how he's gonna be pulled in. Nothing on Shade this time around, but the progress with the other characters makes up for it. My only complaint is one that's technically invalid because this is a post-reboot series: Madame Xanadu is a goddamn c***. I loved Matt Wagner's Vertigo series with her, and in that she was a somewhat manipulative but very earnest, decent woman trying to atone for past sins by helping those in need. Between this comic and Demon Knights, it seems that post-Flashpoint, she's a Machiavellian b**** whose favorite pastime is playing both sides against each other like a poor man's Lex Luthor. It's irritating to see her this way because of how exceptionally great Wagner's take was, but I guess I'll have to get used to it eventually.

FF: I know I said I was probably gonna drop this series but, as with many series I'm sort of back-and-forth on, I keep flipping through issues at the shop. This time, my flip-through showed me a two-page spread of Reed consulting the Avengers and various other heroes, the lack of which was one of my complaints from this series' previous issues. So I picked it up and found that it was pretty good. Hickman's hit-or-miss for me, but this was definitely a hit. The Kree subplot is heating up thanks to a surprising twist that I would never have seen coming but kind of makes perfect sense now that it's actually happened. So my interest in this series is firmly reinvigorated for the moment. I'll probably stick with it through this next arc and try Fantastic Four out when that returns as well. Kitson's art is always a bit bland to me, and this issue is no exception. Characters tend to have very mild, blase expressions under his pencil, but his work is still technically strong. I can't say I'm anymore a fan than I was before, but he gets the job done.

Mass Effect: Invasion: I'm not normally one for game tie-ins, but BioWare is so story-focused that I tend to give comics related to their games a try. It paid off in the case of John Jackson Miller's Knights of the Old Republic series, and it's paid off so far with these Mass Effect tie-ins. The last one, Evolution, was a look at the Illusive Man's past, and ol' blue eyes returns for this series, set on Omega and featuring Aria T'Loak as its protagonist. The basic premise is that Cerberus has set up research stations in the area the Omega-4 relay leads to, so Aria's placed Omega itself in a position to profit off of that as a supply station to Cerberus ships. Unfortunately, that puts Omega right in the crossfire when a new breed of Reaper drones called Adjutants bust out of commandeered Cerberus ships and start tearing up the station. They're stopped and the Illusive Man offers some aid in the form of a Cerberus ship and some officers, but it turns out by the end of the issue that the Illusive Man's running another game while Aria's attention is on the Adjutants--namely, the subjugation of Omega. Pretty solid start, and one that DC's writers could stand to take a look at to learn how to balance enough action (of both the plot and shooty-bang-bang varieties) alongside the necessary setup bits in a good first issue. Omar Francia returns on art and once again knocks it out of the park. I would love to see him jump over to Marvel or DC and draw some bigger titles. Dark Horse seems to have a knack for finding the best unknown talent. All the other indies tend to struggle with subpar artists on a lot of their comics.
 
Slott would have brought back Ben Reilly if it was up to him...and he wouldnt have broke up the marriage either I don't think.
 
THANOSRULES said:
Slott would have brought back Ben Reilly if it was up to him...and he wouldnt have broke up the marriage either I don't think.

I don't know. He loves them being un-married so I think he'd have broken them up in a heartbeat if he could have, though he'd have likely done a better, more acceptable job of it. As for Ben Reilly... I dont' know. These days I've given up hope for Ben's return. And if they ever do surprise me by bringing him back you know that they'll screw up his character and take away what made him great.
 
Well Slott has effectively molded Kaine to be Ben Reilly, so it's moot now.

With the change, and Kaine taking the SS mantle..it's almost dumb and counterproductive to even have Reilly come back.

It's pretty similar to what Grievioux did with Bandit to Night thrasher, that even had a similar size change. Even a die hard Dwayne Taylor fan like myself doesn't see the point or role for his return (like anyone is using him anyways)

As for the marriage issue, I'm sure Slott's fandom of Spidey was forged in the pre-marriage years, and he's a heckuva writer so I'm confident he does enjoy and is capable of writing great pre-marriage stories.
 
So I finally got my comics for the week! I also picked up the final issue of Gage's Astonishing arc since I saw the little Brood dude was joining the W&tXM cast. Turns out I liked it, so I'm glad I did. As for the rest of my comics... I'm fairly underwhelmed. Not a BAD week, but not a good one either.

Green Lantern: New Guardians #2 - I'm quickly realizing how little I care about the other human Lanterns who aren't Hal. Since Rebirth I read everything Green Lantern and thought I was a huge fan of the whole line. Due to money restrictions I made the difficult decision to drop Green Lantern Corps and to not even try Red Lanterns. Surprisingly I've realized that I don't give a crap about missing either of them (save a few random "other" Lanterns like Hannu and Isamot). This book I wanted to try because I liked Kyle and the other corps but I'm becoming very bored of Kyle very quickly. Right now it's Saintwalker, Ganthet, and my curiousity of what's become of Larfleeze that keeps me really interested. Note: my guess as to why Larfleeze isn't looking for his ring is because he doesn't want it. He didn't want it back at the end of War of the Green Lanterns so that seems to be the obvious reason.

As for this issue itself it was alright. I liked seeing all the characters involved but I'm quickly realizing that I'm losing interest in the title. I'll stick with it for a little while but if my enjoyment doesn't spike soon it might get the axe. It has the makings to be a title I enjoy, it's just not quite there yet.

Justice League Dark #2 - This title is moving at a snail's pace and it's kinda annoying me. More happens here than in the first issue but I'm eager for this team's actual unification because it's taking too long to cover them individually.

I like the Deadman stuff and found Zatanna's scenes interesting. The Enchantress stuff is confusing me and I don't get Madam Xanadu at all. I don't understand who she is, what her powers are, what she's doing... nothing. She's just there, looking at cards, and talking. I know nothing about her pre-Nu 52 and there's nothing here to help me figure her out now.

I have a feeling this will be a very interesting book come the second arc, but this first arc is dragging on and I'm eager to see it move forward. I'm on board for now but we'll see how it starts playing out.

Annihilators: Earthfall #2 - It's official, I don't give a crap about this team at all. I didn't like them in Annihilators and I still don't care come this issue. I can't really even name a certain character who makes it more interesting because none of them do. I liked Gladiator from War of Kings through Thanos Imperative but he's done nothing for me in these two minis. I liked Beta Ray Bill in every appearance since Disassembled... but not here.

I just don't feel like DnA even want to write these stories. And this ending did nothing for me because it's pretty much the same ending as Uncanny X-Force #1, but with Magus instead of Apocalypse. Just call in Fantomex and be done with it.

Daredevil #8 - I'm not as excited about this title as others but it gives me just enough to keep going on it. The story was good and the art better, but it wasn't anything fantastic. Waid's run hasn't been as good as Bendis, Brubaker's, or even Diggle's in my opinion but it's adequate. I still wish they'd have given it over to Johnston. I think he would have carried on the dark but good tradition in interesting ways and I likely would have enjoyed it more.

But again, it wasn't a bad issue. It was perfectly enjoyable but I'm eager to get passed this arc. It's not doing much for me.

Wolverine & the X-Men #1 - I had my hopes up high on this one and had to check myself before starting it. Fortunately, it ended up being a pretty good read. More importantly though, Bachalo does a great job with pencils, reminence of his Generation X days moreso than his uglier art of late.

As for the plot there wasn't much to it. It was a simple introduction story (to characters and the mansion) done in a clever way that I found enjoyable. I'm eager to see what Aaron has planned to be honest. I'm curious what will become of the little Nightcrawlers that have somehow escaped from some other dimension. I'm REAL eager to see what Aaron has planned for Husk. She's one of my favorite characters - heck, I named my daughter 'Paige' after her. I like his character set up over all. It feels like a great mixture of 90's X-Men and Generation X. Bachelo doing a book in a school with student mutants, but the main characters/teachers are actual X-Men, one of which of the Generation X alumni. This, of course, pleases me.

For now this is my most looked forward to title that Marvel puts out. It's been so long since the X-Men have been anything but a military force that it's refreshing, almost euphoric, to be back in the mansion and to be teaching the next generation. After reading this I honestly find myself not at all interested in what's coming up in Uncanny X-Men. I'll likely enjoy it but for now, I'm assuming it's going to pale in comparison.

New Mutants #32 - I bought this to finish out the plot but it sucked as much as the first few isues did. I read it and don't even remember anything I read. I'm honestly giving this comic a chance this next arc with Blink but if I"m not impressed by the end of that, I'm dropping the book. If Nate Grey and Blink weren't likely to become ongoing members I'd drop it now. I just don't like this title. I think there was maybe an issue or two I really enjoyed but an issue or two out of 32 isn't good.

Astonishing X-Men #43 - I was going back and forth on getting this stand alone issue but after reading an interview that told me the plot I was intrigued. It ended up being an interesting story. Danger, former A.I. prisoner of the X-Men, senses another A.I. mind calling for help elsewhere and cashes in on a promise Emma Frost gave her back in Whedon's run to help her out. The two invade a Secret Avengers jet and encounter Beast (the only member on the jet). Danger confronts the A.I. who turns out to be Machine Smith (who I last saw in New Warriors but may have appeared since then). Machine Smith proves to be a villain, there's a battle, and Danger gets her first taste of human emotions through robo-heart break.

Not an amazing issue but a good one. It's good to see Beast again during the "I hate Cyclops" phase, though I think there were better options for villains. I was actually hoping to see a return of the sentinent Cerebro from the post-Operation: Zero Tolerance era. Oh well, maybe next time.


Best and Worst of the Week

Best: Wolverine & the X-Men - The only book that I felt good about after reading (Astonishing X-Men a close second). I love the cast here, I like the art a lot, and I'm really curious where the story goes after this. Definately the right direction for a shift in status quo. Maybe Schism wasn't such a bad idea after all.

Worst: New Mutants - It was completely shrug-worthy. For as good as DnA are it doesn't show in this book. I'm very disappointed.
 
Well Slott has effectively molded Kaine to be Ben Reilly, so it's moot now.

With the change, and Kaine taking the SS mantle..it's almost dumb and counterproductive to even have Reilly come back.

It's pretty similar to what Grievioux did with Bandit to Night thrasher, that even had a similar size change.

Yeah, and the idea sounds just as stupid now as it did with Bandit. I like Kaine and I like Bandit, but to take away who they were and mold them into another character's image is annoying. They were good characters on their own... why change them? And to physically reshape them to better fit a dead character's mold is just stupid.

At least it was with Bandit. I'm obviously not reading Amazing Spider-Man these days but if it is as you say it is then I'd likely not be a fan and will likely not bother with Scarlet Spider, provided he does turn out to be Kaine. If I wanted to read a book about Kaine, I'd want it to be Kaine... not Kaine posing as someone else. If I wanted a book about the Scarlet Spider I'd want it to be about the Scarlet Spider (who is Ben Reilly). To intermix the two and water each legacy down just doesn't appeal to me.
 
Daredevil #8 - I'm not as excited about this title as others but it gives me just enough to keep going on it. The story was good and the art better, but it wasn't anything fantastic.

Wow... how'd you manage to get issue #8... #5 just came out this week... :wow: :wow: :wow:

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Well Slott has effectively molded Kaine to be Ben Reilly, so it's moot now.

Now don't get me wrong, I am excited to see Kaine as a starring character and all, I just hate how much they made Kaine change both physically and personality-wise for the sake of him working better for their stories. I liked Grim Hunt, but shrinking & slimming down Kaine's physique and taking away 80% of his deformity (he went from severe veiny marks all over him to just having what looked like bad eczema...) so he could better pass as Peter (leading to him taking on the Scarlet Spider persona more convincingly) pisses me off. Of course there was no actual canonical reason that Kaine's appearance just magically altered other than to fit for the story at hand and the stories to come. And the way he was playfully bickering and joking with Peter was too soon. I know the guy is grateful to be "normal", but he went through an extreme 180 far too fast. I was hoping to see Kaine transition slowly into a new person in his own title, still having his violent and anti-social nature that he's know all his life, but it seems like they want to throw Kaine into this new "character" as soon as possible.
 
Kaine turning into Ben is just stupid on every level. It's a disservice to both characters. I have no idea what would possess anyone to do it, let alone actually think it's a good idea.
 
Oh yeah, while I won't get into it... the conclusion to ASM: Spider-Island was pure awesomeness... I wished they could have added a few more pages to part 6 to make it seem less "rushed", but all parties reading ASM right now should be happy with the way this story ended on ALL notes...

As some other poster said in the Spidey Comics Forum... this was the best Spidey story in 20 years.

At this point, I'm not going to argue... for all my minor quips and complaints as the story went on, the end was absolutely fantastic.

The best Spidey story in 20 years??!!?? Holy crap! What in the hell have you been smokin'???? It's not even the best Spidey story in the past two years. (That distinction easily goes to The Grim Hunt.)

I will say this story got much better at the end than in the beginning. But, still, it had a ton of flaws (in my opinion, of course).

First, as I have said from the beginning, the storyline lacks originality. A city overrun with Spider-people? Wow, sound much like multi-colored Hulks, Hulked Out Heroes, Green-Purple-And-Every-Other-Color-Of-The-Rainbow Green Lanterns, Zombie Marvel Heroes, Undead DC Heroes and Villians, Aped Out Heroes .... Oh, the list can go on and on.

Second, while I did laugh quite a bit in the final issues, this Dan wrote this storyline to Extreme Corny-ness. I never felt any real worry or danger, because it was all handled very tongue-in-cheek. (Compare this with Grim Hunt, which was like a Daredevil/Brubaker treatment of Spidey.)

Third, did we really need another ending to a Marvel event where the villian turns into some big, giant creature? We groaned like hell when the Red Skull turned humongous at the end of Captain America: Rebirth; and, writers just keep doing it. (See the ending of Brightest Day, too. Two giant Swamp Things didn't make that ending any better.) I, for one, will be happy when the have a moritorium on large creatures at the end of events.

Fourth ... and, I'm probably really alone here ... this ending made Peter out to be a super tool. MEANING, where is any mention of his current girlfriend, Carly??!!?? As Spicoli would say, "You Di#$!"


Okay, but, like I said, I enjoyed Amazing Spider-Man #672 a lot more than what came before. The reasoning behind MJ's slow evolution into a spider-creature was hilarious. (Yep, Spider-**** does have a purpose.) X-Men gave us Schism, and Dan Slott gave us ****. Also, even though it happened last issue, this really sets Kaine up in his rebirth. (I just kept thinking, "Okay, JH will be happy.") Personally, I didn't like involving Kaine in this storyline. I loved that ending to Grim Hunt, and I thought Dan wasted that ending by just doing away with it.

I give this issue a :yay:. It's worth reading, for sure. Just, it's crazy to imply it's the best Spidey story in 20 years.

Spider-Island: Spider-Girl #3

I think Marvel made a huge mistake shoving all these tie-ins on us all at once. Better to spread it out, as I don't think a thing came out last week. None of the tie-ins blew me away; but, they were so much better than the Fear Itself tie-ins. This one was cute; but, none of them are hugely essential to your enjoyment of Spider-Island. I love Tobin on this book; but, his solo stories featuring Spider-Girl seemed much better.

A mild :yay:.

Spider-Island: Cloak & Dagger #3

Probably my favorite of the tie-ins. Spencer and his artist tell a very interesting story; and, this final issue was beautiful to look at. Plus, we get a huge change for the two main characters. (Dagger is now the Cloak, pretty much; and, Cloak is the Dagger. Meaning, they changed powers, it seems. Same look, different colors.) :yay:

Spider-Island: Deadly Hands Of Kung Fu #3

I love Johnston; but, I felt this was a pretty week ending. Shang-Chi was a nice supporting character leading up to Spider-Island; but, it all kind of fizzled here. Meh. :dry:

Venom #8

Probably the most essential of the tie-ins. Events in this book were pretty significant to the events in Spider-Island. Before, we saw how Venom captures Anti-Venom, in creating a cure to all the Spidey powers; and, in this issue, we see events that lead up to the beginning of this week's issue of ASM.

Still .... I am not a fan of this book in the least. I don't buy Flash as Venom. I don't think Flash has much of a personality, or at least a personality that can sell a comic book. (It feels like I'm almost reading Haunt still.)

I give it a :yay: for significance; but, I don't think I'll ever look forward to reading this book. It will always be at the back of my reading list.

Incredible Hulk #1

Marvel must just love Jason Aaron. Sure, his PunisherMax blows me away; but, most of his other titles have only been alright. Nothing seems to compare to that his Punisher. Now, with Incredible Hulk, we get a new take on this old character. There are some good things ... like, it feels we've left all the multi-colors behind; but, I haven't been grabbed yet. It's not original, as we've seen Hulk and Banner separated before. I just don't buy that Hulk would act in this fashion. (For me, I think he'd be a lot more mindless.)

Still, I'm happy with a new direction, finally. Pak was clearly done with this book. We'll see what happens as more issue come out. A mild :yay:.

Dream Logic #4

Another fantastic issue from David Mack. I love that he brings so much of himself out in these books. That first story about his father is just powerful; and, the images he uses as simplistic...but, also powerful. It's a high price to pay for this book; but, for me, well worth it. :yay::yay:

Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz #2

I love these Oz books! I've never read them; but, Shanower and Young show me what I missed in my youth. As an adult, the stories are still funny; and, what a different version of Dorothy and Oz from the old movie that I'm used to. My only complaint with this new story is that it's not as funny or witty as the first three stories that came before. Still, there are enough moments to make it a good recommendation to young and old alike. :yay::yay:
 
Phaedrus45 said:
Also, even though it happened last issue, this really sets Kaine up in his rebirth. (I just kept thinking, "Okay, JH will be happy.")

I'm torn really. I'm very pleased to see Kaine becoming a prominant character again. I'm still looking for the Grim Hunt arc at Half Priced Books whenever I go just so I can see how Kaine's being handled now (since I've not read anything with him since the Clone Saga). However, as I mentioned above, I hate how they're changing him, essentially taking away his Kaine-ness to make him more like Reilly.

Knowing me and my love of the Clone Saga I'll likely pick up Scarlet Spider #1 but I'm not holding my breath. If they've altered the character too much to the point of him being unrecognizable I'll likely not be back for a second issue.


By the way... in my Clone Saga fandom curiosity... what became of Jackal in Spider-Island?

Phaedrus45 said:
The best Spidey story in 20 years??!!?? Holy crap! What in the hell have you been smokin'???? It's not even the best Spidey story in the past two years. (That distinction easily goes to The Grim Hunt.)

Yeah, I kinda flinched at that myself. I just didn't comment because I didn't read the story but the reviews and skims didn't wow me. I groaned at yet another enlarged villain for the conclusion. I thought the last page of the final issue was nice but it just made me miss the "real" Spider-Man as I like to think of it, back prior to OMD. And out of curiosity... did I see Kaine with stingers?

Of recent years, what little I've read, I'd call the issue with Marla's funeral and the dream the best. Of the past 20 years, minus the BND era that I haven't read, I'd probably stick with The Child Within as my favorite. That'd be Spectacular Spider-Man 178-184. The personal emotional battles Peter faced there between dealing with Kraven's death, his parents' death, and Harry's betrayal.... added to the intensely personal story of Vermin's being sexually abused as a child... was just a spectacular plot. The final issue blew me away and it's stayed with me to this day. Add Spectacular 189, 190, and 200 (and the snippets from 188 and 199 involving Harry) and it's one flawless Spider-Man story. Easily my favorite Spidey plot of the last 20 years and one of my favorite comicbook plots period.
 
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SPIDER-ISLAND: CLOAK & DAGGER #3: Basically, Mr. Negative gets Cloak and Dagger to switch powers, and goes home while they angst about it. Why did he spare a girl who was psychically foretold to slay him? Because he made a deal with Cloak & Dagger's old enemy, the demon D'Spyre. That's essentially the plot summary of this issue. While this is a SPIDER-ISLAND series, that event plays little part in Nick Spencer's story and essentially occurs in the background. Yet why does this issue, and series, still work overall? Nick Spencer has a solid handle on the characters, and Emma Rios' art is truly beautiful - very close to a "shojo manga" style like CLAMP without going too far with it. Javier Rodriguez's colors are very solid, too.

The idea of having Dagger and Cloak swap powers is a bit of an odd idea, but such things have hardly been rare for them. They were once claimed to be mutants and attached to the X-Men for a while, after all. Cloak was once dead and Dagger was once blind. While sold as a spare 3 part mini series for SPIDER-ISLAND, this reads very much as an opening arc to an ongoing series run, and had Marvel as much balls as DC does right now, they'd have done so. It's hard for Marvel to brag about being daring when DC claimed to give a new OMAC or HAWK & DOVE series a 12 issue commitment. If Marvel did announce a Spencer/Rios/Rodriguez CLOAK & DAGGER series, I'd be on board for it immediately.
Preach brotha :applaud

It definetly felt like a opening of a series. I'm hoping Marvel has the stones to give Cloak & Dagger another title shot with Spencer because I think it would have a good chance. With Marvel having a Cloak & Dagger Tv show in development perhaps something might come up.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't a Cloak & Dagger ongoing one of the first things Spencer talked about when coming over to Marvel exclusively? I know it's not been officially announced, but I thought it was known to be happening.
 
The best Spidey story in 20 years??!!?? Holy crap! What in the hell have you been smokin'???? It's not even the best Spidey story in the past two years. (That distinction easily goes to The Grim Hunt.)

What can I say? I really enjoyed the ending... those last 20 pages made up for a slightly above average first 5 parts... Grim Hunt was great as well, but a tad too dark for my liking as far as Spider-Man is concerned... I get my "dark" sensations satiated with other books... and when Spidey saves the day, and saves everyone, and everybody recognizes this... why, it just tugged at my heart-strings... how long have we waited for Spider-Man to get his "props" from the Marvel U? Add in the MJ scene... and it was all good... perhaps just for the moment, but it was all good...

I've read your reviews as of late... you've made it no secret that you weren't enjoying this story... and that's cool... it was ok for me... but that last issue just blew me away at that moment... I'm being honest here... it's a nice "feel good" moment in Spidey-lore... and it's not too often I feel this way when I read my books...

As far as my smoking goes... I like to puff puff on my Swamp Thing issues... it's very organic.

:yay:
 
Revelations came out at the end of 1996... not 1998.

:yay:

Right. I guess the Clone Saga sucked so much and had drug on so long, it only FELT like two extra years. :o

Well Slott has effectively molded Kaine to be Ben Reilly, so it's moot now.

With the change, and Kaine taking the SS mantle..it's almost dumb and counterproductive to even have Reilly come back.

It's pretty similar to what Grievioux did with Bandit to Night thrasher, that even had a similar size change. Even a die hard Dwayne Taylor fan like myself doesn't see the point or role for his return (like anyone is using him anyways)

As for the marriage issue, I'm sure Slott's fandom of Spidey was forged in the pre-marriage years, and he's a heckuva writer so I'm confident he does enjoy and is capable of writing great pre-marriage stories.

Now don't get me wrong, I am excited to see Kaine as a starring character and all, I just hate how much they made Kaine change both physically and personality-wise for the sake of him working better for their stories. I liked Grim Hunt, but shrinking & slimming down Kaine's physique and taking away 80% of his deformity (he went from severe veiny marks all over him to just having what looked like bad eczema...) so he could better pass as Peter (leading to him taking on the Scarlet Spider persona more convincingly) pisses me off. Of course there was no actual canonical reason that Kaine's appearance just magically altered other than to fit for the story at hand and the stories to come. And the way he was playfully bickering and joking with Peter was too soon. I know the guy is grateful to be "normal", but he went through an extreme 180 far too fast. I was hoping to see Kaine transition slowly into a new person in his own title, still having his violent and anti-social nature that he's know all his life, but it seems like they want to throw Kaine into this new "character" as soon as possible.

Kaine turning into Ben is just stupid on every level. It's a disservice to both characters. I have no idea what would possess anyone to do it, let alone actually think it's a good idea.

May as well comment to all three of these, since they address the same thing.

On the one hand, I did like the banter between Peter and Kaine in this last issue. In fact, I applaud that Dan Slott maintained some sense of humor with SPIDER-ISLAND, so it wouldn't become a humorless mess like FEAR ITSELF was. Look, we know it's comics, we know the star won't die, and if he did it wouldn't last. No reason to act like it's "THE TEN COMMANDMENTS" and make it totally humorless. On the other hand, as someone who didn't read GRIM HUNT, it was very awkward seeing Kaine start to yuck it up. The last I recall of Kaine was in the 90's, and he was very much an anti-hero of that era. From the costume to the "scars" to the violence and way he carried himself. Maybe the angle was that if Kaine was "cured" of his clone degeneration by the "anti-venom", he'd act more like Peter since he was his clone. The dilemma with that is that it makes cloned characters seem interchangeable, which is a problem if Marvel then wants to turn around and sell them as distinct characters - as they may be doing with Kaine in SCARLET SPIDER, and as they do with X-23 now.

The comparison with Bandit becoming Night-Thrasher II is astute, although Christos Gage helped cement the retcon with his work on AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE. The gist was at some point between the end of NW vol. 2 in 2000 and Dwayne's death in 2006, Dwayne and Donyell had some confrontation in which Dwayne was tired of fighting his brother all the time, and wanted to come to some sort of resolution or understanding, or at least a neutrality. So when he died, Donyell was trying to make up for all the wasted years and retake the mantle. I can sort of get behind it. I still believe it would have been more interesting had Elvin Holiday/Rage, Dwayne's adopted "son", attempted to take the mantle. I think there's an interesting dynamic between Donyell and Elvin to play with - the "bad" uncle of a dead man's adopted son, who technically also lost a "brother" in Microbe. Some writer will play with that aspect and we'll all go, "Omigod, why did nobody go that obvious route before?"

I suppose if there is a difference, is it that the shift for Donyell from Bandit to Night-Thrasher was treated as some sort of emotional shift and growth; even a stage of grieving. While people like to ignore Grevioux's NEW WARRIORS run, the irony of it is that while Donyell is TRYING to be a hero, he still acts like a villain (or an anti-hero) for most of it. He operates in the shadows, he steals tech from villains, he manipulates people, he starts fights with villains just to steal their tech, and thought nothing of mucking with time to revive his brother. Thus, when Norman Osborn later offers him a chance at reviving Dwayne via Hood's magic in A:TI, it's a genuine test of his resolve and how far Donyell is willing to take the mantle. In the end, of course, he decides to allow his brother to rest and honor him by teaming with Tigra against Hood. With Kaine, all of his changes come from mystical ceremonies or baths in "cure" solvent, so it seems more artificial.

Kaine does have a few distinctions - he wants to be see as his own man (although taking on another clone's identity seems to defeat that purpose) and he is able to kill.

That said, reviving Reilly would have been complicated. Firstly, many of the higher-up's vowed to never do it, and to go back on that would merely be the latest in a series of examples of what Marvel brass say don't mean ****, which would defeat the purpose of doing promotional interviews. Now, a lot of what Joe Q or Tom Brevoort say don't mean **** now anyway, but this would make it worse. But the big second is reviving Reilly from a story perspective would have been a pain. The guy was killed on panel, and turned to dust on panel. Unless you're Dracula or use magic, that's pretty much resurrection proof. Magic was used in OMD/OMIT and it's always awkward in Spider-Man stories. The only option would have been to claim back in '96 Reilly was swapped out with a "defective clone" in time for Osborn to run him through, but that's a major retcon as well as asks people to remember a story I imagine most of Marvel's brass would rather they forgot. Thus, the option of "curing" Kaine so he'd act more like Reilly was seen as the best option. If you see Scarlet Spider as an actual character and not Spider-Man B, then it's a dilemma. I never did, so I suppose I don't mind as much.

My biggest concern stands - there is really no longer a place for Scarlet Spider due to the changes that have happened to Peter since 2008. In the 90's, Reilly was trucked out so they could get Spidey single again, as well as focused a bit more on superheroism. Well, OMD/OMIT/BIG TIME have done that in Peter. Hell, it's apparently done it so well that Peter STILL relies on MJ for emotional support without actually having to be faithful to her since they were never married. Peter is free to date Annual Designated Girlfriends to his heart's desire. BIG TIME also has made ample use of the fact that Spidey is on two Avengers teams, the FF, and has teamed up with every hero under the sun. He's even teamed up with NFL SUPERPRO, for heaven's sake. His gig at Horizon Labs capitalizes on the scientific mojo Peter has to use as Spider-Man to solve crimes and crises. So, what's the point of a Spider-Man Lite now? Sure, the action will be moved to Texas and there'll be a new supporting cast - but if Marvel wanted to launch a new hero franchise, just DO THAT and have some cajones, instead of dusting off a faded mid 90's franchise and attaching it to something it has nothing to do with.

Irony? If SCARLET SPIDER is indeed set in Houston, Texas, as promotions state, then he may literally be the first Marvel hero Texas has that isn't based on either a cowboy, an Indian, or an armadillo. People complain that any hero based outside of the U.S. is a horrendous stereotype, but heroes based in states that aren't NY or CA tend to fall under stereotype, too. Ever see Razorback, the trucker who dresses like a boar from Arkansas?

Preach brotha :applaud

It definetly felt like a opening of a series. I'm hoping Marvel has the stones to give Cloak & Dagger another title shot with Spencer because I think it would have a good chance. With Marvel having a Cloak & Dagger Tv show in development perhaps something might come up.

Good point. Marvel will likely look at sales and come to conclusions. It does seem to be a waste to have a writer with buzz like Nick Spencer and then only have him write 3-4 issue engagements.
 
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I remember reading an earlier interview with Spencer where he said he really wanted to do a cloak and dagger series. I'm betting this mini was just a good testing ground for such things. Also a way to cement them in the Spider-verse wing of the MU since they mainly use and had their start with Spider-Man villains and Mr. Negative would be a pretty perfect antagonist for them in the long term. They fit better here than they ever could with the X-Men, so hopefully it'll stick cause I've always liked them. I would like to see the dagger power be more than just daggers cause it always seemed like cloak had powers that just dwarfed hers, but that's a minor compliant.
 

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