Young Justice Cartoon

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Not to mention that WE DON'T KNOW about most of the stuff you assume will happen. We know there will be a triangle between Miss M/Superboy/Kid Flash, but we don't know anything beyond that. Maybe they won't date for long or the "heal his tortured soul" will be deconstructed. Same with Artemis, we don't know much about how her character will turn out in the long run. Way too early to be making assumptions.

Not to mention that TV tropes are not necessarily a bad thing. If they are executed with strong, realistic writing, they can be entertaining and refreshing, despite being a well-known subject.

 

[Gold Samurai]

hope to see Brick some more.

I thought the hair style reminded me of a batman beyond goon from "Rebirth"

 

[RisanF]

Not to mention that WE DON'T KNOW about most of the stuff you assume will happen. We know there will be a triangle between Miss M/Superboy/Kid Flash, but we don't know anything beyond that. Maybe they won't date for long or the "heal his tortured soul" will be deconstructed. Same with Artemis, we don't know much about how her character will turn out in the long run. Way too early to be making assumptions.

Not to mention that TV tropes are not necessarily a bad thing. If they are executed with strong, realistic writing, they can be entertaining and refreshing, despite being a well-known subject.

Believe me, I definitely want to be proven wrong by this show. It's no fun not being able to tag along with a DC Comics cartoon. I don't object to tropes per say; I continue to eat up the standard "hero with a thousand faces" protagonist as long as they make his journey interesing enough. But the whole "angry brooding teen" thing needs a lot more than just a sad backstory to engage me.

 

[venomfangs125]

One of the things that some might have to consider about this episode is that it WASN'T written by Greg. They'll have good episodes and bad ones. Plus the animation style I didn't find all that great. I'm looking forward to the next episode with Bane and Kobra

As for the MM/KF/SB thing, frankly I see her being with Wally first 'cause she's nice, not all that stuck-up, she'll actually like him at first and give it a try, there may be a slight chance she does it out of pity, but I doubt it. At times I actually think Miss M thought some of his passes in this episode were kind of cute. But seeing her with Superboy after this is, eh...I could see it in her cameo at the ending of 'Fireworks', but not exactly so here...

 

[GamerSlyRatchet]

As for the MM/KF/SB thing, frankly I see her being with Wally first 'cause she's nice, not all that stuck-up, she'll actually like him at first and give it a try, there may be a slight chance she does it out of pity, but I doubt it. At times I actually think Miss M thought some of his passes in this episode were kind of cute. But seeing her with Superboy after this is, eh...I could see it in her cameo at the ending of 'Fireworks', but not exactly so here...

Considering how Kid Flash didn't stand up for her against Superboy like Robin and Aqualad did, I don't think his feelings for her are beyond lust.

 

[venomfangs125]

Mmmm...'Cept he's supposed to be second smartest on the team, so he should be smart enough to know that that's not her true form.

 

[FinalAvalanche]

I was looking through obscure DC characters who could possibly be Artemis and I found a name I've never heard of: Queen Arrow AKA Diana Dare. She appeared in 1957 in Adventure Comics Vol 1 #241, in a story called "The Queen Arrow". And of course she's blonde.
Synopsis

Diana Dare, daughter of millionaire Everet Dare, is a collector of arrows and an idolizer of Green Arrow. But when night falls, she is something else, as she sleepwalks, gathers a bow and arrows, dons a mask and green costume patterned after Green Arrow’s, and goes out to fight crime as Queen Arrow. Green Arrow and Speedy are flabbergasted at her appearance, though she is an effective crimefighter. When they find that the Queen Arrow has fired one of their old arrows, they deduce her identity and go to the Dare estate. Everet Dare, Green Arrow, and Speedy all see Diana sleepwalk back to her room. Green Arrow examines the arrows in her collection and finds a “rare Javiro ceremonial arrow”, which is painted with a “potion that causes loss of will power! The victim then will carry out any hidden desires!” Dare confirms that Diana did cut her finger on the arrowhead. Green Arrow mixes up an antidote for the potion and administers it to Diana. When she awakens, she has no memory of her brief career as Queen Arrow.

She's obviously not a perfect match for Artemis, but Weisman is good at re-imagining characters. She could be Artemis for any number of reasons: early DCU, young heroine, obscure, GA-related, and her real name Diana translates to Artemis in another language.

 

[Gold Samurai]

I think Red arrow's going to be the mysterious additional warrior that doesn't officially join the team but helps out when he wants to. Basically he's the batman of the team

 

[Dread]

I think this is my issue with the small introduction to Young Justice we've been given. The whole cheerleader/jerk jock thing is not something I've ever enjoyed, especially since it's almost always romanticized with a "I'll heal his tortured soul" gimmick. But what's sad is the notion that TV is so predictable that we can assume that Young Justice had already shown us all their cards in three measly episodes, and that I can feel free in prejudging the show/characters expecting they have no surprises for me, that the problems I perceive are hardwired into the show and have the total approval of the writing staff. This has actually worked against me a couple of times, when I've created a story that my reviewers has judged as having no hook, deciding that they already know what they're getting seven pages into the work. Usually in the story, I have some sort of deconstruction of the genre that changes things up later on, but seven pages in is too much for some people. Oops, lost another one.

I wasn't trying to dismiss the entire possibility of YJ and it's characters moving in directions that I don't expect. Greg Weisman, as a writer as well as producer, is capable of fulfilling cliches as well as deconstructing them. I was merely commenting on how I thought things were going as of episode 3. Because "we'll see" makes for a boring review.

Let's talk about Artemis a bit. Just by looking at her character design and what we've seen of the other members, should we already feel safe in expecting another sarcastic, scowling, borderline-misandrist who walks all over Wally and the rest of the boys? Are we just tuning in for TV Tropes Greatest Hits, complete with cheerleader/jerk jock and funny guy/mean girl? Playing every character and plotline straight?

It's possible that I could be wrong. Still, TV Tropes are themselves not a bad thing and if you want to break things down, even WATCHMEN lives up to a slew of them. From what little we know of Artemis from her actress' words as well as CN's Bio, as well as the logic of wanting two female characters who are not too similar, it seems to lead to the idea that Artemis will be sassier, at least.

Given that the TV rights to Wonder Girl arrived midway through the first season's production, and Greg Weisman has dropped hints that at least one cast member will die, one has to wonder if she'll have a similar fate to Emma Frost in WOLVERINE AND THE X-MEN.

This is the source of all my whining recently. There hasn't been a hook for me so far in the show, save for the potential that the art style and basic concept suggests, and the fact that it's probably better than something like Johnny Test. But is there going to be a hook eventually? They claim this show is going to actually have people die. Does that mean that sudden switcharoos aren't off-limits, and that things may be more than they appear?

To be fair, I think the show does have a hook. The Justice League has basically called the bluff of their sidekicks and has assigned them an espionage team in one of their abandoned HQ's. True, the kids are being "babysat" by Red Tornado, dispatched on missions by Batman, and trained by Black Canary (whose teaching will be atop whatever they've already learned from their own mentors). But they're basically shifting into their own heroes and the League is assisting them rather than risking them getting hurt, or all going off the grid like Whiney (er, Speedy). And the kids not only stumbled upon Camdus and Superboy, but atop a larger conspiracy that will likely come into play later on. That was all established in the pilot.

Episode 3, however, was a bit more mundane. But that isn't altogether uncommon. The pilot is there to sell the show to a network. The rest of the episodes build from it. Heck, MANY shows in the past were often rewritten a bit from the pilot, with entire characters vanishing. Compared to that, the serial format is going strongly.

What episode 3 lacked was a sense of urgency, perhaps. It was content to meander about it's way and not get faster paced until it was good and ready. This isn't altogether a bad thing either - I mentioned X-MEN EVOLUTION very deliberately. That was a show that focused more on characters than action. Often times the plots and battles there were mundane and predictable, at least for the first season and change. But they nailed the characters and the dialogue, and that's why we cared and kept coming back (which paid off when the show flew off at the end of it's second season). So if YJ does that, it'll work in a similar way.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

If YJ ends up anything like X-Men Evolution, I'll be thrilled. I loved that show.

 

[Anubis]

I was looking through obscure DC characters who could possibly be Artemis and I found a name I've never heard of: Queen Arrow AKA Diana Dare. She appeared in 1957 in Adventure Comics Vol 1 #241, in a story called "The Queen Arrow". And of course she's blonde.
Synopsis

Diana Dare, daughter of millionaire Everet Dare, is a collector of arrows and an idolizer of Green Arrow. But when night falls, she is something else, as she sleepwalks, gathers a bow and arrows, dons a mask and green costume patterned after Green Arrow’s, and goes out to fight crime as Queen Arrow. Green Arrow and Speedy are flabbergasted at her appearance, though she is an effective crimefighter. When they find that the Queen Arrow has fired one of their old arrows, they deduce her identity and go to the Dare estate. Everet Dare, Green Arrow, and Speedy all see Diana sleepwalk back to her room. Green Arrow examines the arrows in her collection and finds a “rare Javiro ceremonial arrow”, which is painted with a “potion that causes loss of will power! The victim then will carry out any hidden desires!” Dare confirms that Diana did cut her finger on the arrowhead. Green Arrow mixes up an antidote for the potion and administers it to Diana. When she awakens, she has no memory of her brief career as Queen Arrow.

She's obviously not a perfect match for Artemis, but Weisman is good at re-imagining characters. She could be Artemis for any number of reasons: early DCU, young heroine, obscure, GA-related, and her real name Diana translates to Artemis in another language.

It's Arrowette with a name change because Arrowette is stupid. Probably a full origin change at that, but essentially, it's Arrowette.

 

[BlackLantern]

It's Arrowette with a name change because Arrowette is stupid. Probably a full origin change at that, but essentially, it's Arrowette.

sometime the simplest explanation is usually the best

 

[kane9321]

Loved this episode...But why is superboy such a dick

 

[BlackLantern]

he's still learning to be a real boy

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

he's still learning to be a real boy

And he is missing his Jiminy Cricket.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It's Arrowette with a name change because Arrowette is stupid. Probably a full origin change at that, but essentially, it's Arrowette.

So basically you're saying it's not Arrowette.

 

[X Knight]

did I read correctly that Artemis, the blonde chick, is going to be half Vietnamese??

 

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[.Rorschach.]

I always look forward to Kid Flash finding a souvenir in every episode

 

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