Your drinking lifestyle.

[hopefuldreamer]

^ This.

Now, mind you, the same could be said for cocaine, acid, heroin, meth...ect...but those things CAN hurt you (not sure aboot the acid thing...I know a kid who went insane because of it and other drugs... but I figure i'll put it out there just because), and booze can't...unless you're an idiot who doesn't know when to say "enough".

Or you get angry, or whatever when you drink. Worst case, dont drink again.

Plus their illegal

Totally can't put that in the same ball game.

 

[CelticPredator]

Weed is awsome, and illegal..

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Hey i'm not saying illegal things aren't fun, just that you can't compare the encouragement to do them with the encouragement to watch a movie

Alchohol is different.

Even Jesus made wine!

 

[The Morningstar]

I enjoy a good drink. Don't drink nowhere near as much as I used to though. Usuaully just have a few on Friday after work then on Saturday if I go out.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

I don't want to drink, my wife doesn't want to drink (and also has never had a drop) and the majority of our friends don't drink so it really isn't a problem. It's mostly work people who invite me to go out with them that get insulted when I politely refuse. Either I go and be miserable, I go and ask them not to drink, or I excuse myself and let them have a nice time. I think I'm being polite when I say no.

That is ridiculous, people feeling insulted when you say you don't want to drink with them.

I would say, it's an experience that you might be surpised at how much you enjoy, I wouldn't recommend it to everyone though, in fact I am always very careful not to recommend anything combustible to anyone, let them discover it for themselves if they wish, I don't want the responsibility of someone having a bad experinece with a substance.
If I think someone would have a bad experience on something though, I will of course say so.

Like, my nephew swore off booze without ever trying it for years when he was a teenager, and, yeah, there was the odd time i would say to him that he might enjoy it, it might help loosen up social inhibitions with folk and help him develop in that way. Literally just two or three times though, I never pushed it on him at all.
and he ended up drinking through his friends, not me, and enjoys it now and again, it's been good for him.
But, I would actually advise him never to try other types of drugs, the more concioussness altering psychedelics, or ones that are harmful to your body like coke/speed/heroin, not even marajuana, cause i just don't think those types of drugs are suitable for his personality and disposition.

I don't think watching other drunk people carrying on or making 'fools' of themselves is a good gauge for whether you would like it or not though. Taken in smaller doses it can be quite a good relaxer of your inhibitions, and can stimulate imagination and conversation.

Anyway, I am not pushing it onto you, just sayin', and I understand why you wouldn't want to go there, given everything you've said.

 

[JewishHobbit]

^ This.

Now, mind you, the same could be said for cocaine, acid, heroin, meth...ect...but those things CAN hurt you (not sure aboot the acid thing...I know a kid who went insane because of it and other drugs... but I figure i'll put it out there just because), and booze can't...unless you're an idiot who doesn't know when to say "enough".

Or you get angry, or whatever when you drink. Worst case, dont drink again.

It seems wierd to me to state that booze can't hurt you but then give a small list of situations where it can. My mentality is that if it can alter the way I'd normally act or think it's not worth my time. I'm perfectly happy being me, I don't need help with it.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

It seems wierd to me to state that booze can't hurt you but then give a small list of situations where it can. My mentality is that if it can alter the way I'd normally act or think it's not worth my time. I'm perfectly happy being me, I don't need help with it.

Eh, 'normally act', ok, but look at it this way, there are many things in life that can keep you down, stress you out, your job, urban big city life, whatever, ...so sometimes you are not acting the way you normally would, so a couple of beers or a joint can mellow you out a bit and take away the unconcious stress you have built up, so they allow you to normally act the way you would if you did not have unfair circumstances clouding your mind.

Also, y'know, it's like putting on a good comedy film, it lightens the mood, you and your partner or friends can explore aspects of your personality that you would not otherwise have accessed if you did not use that entertainment in that particular point in time.

When used in moderation, they can be as fun as anything else in your life.

edit: and aye, it is not a big deal, I'm just saying that, y'know, you never know, you might be missing out on something you would enjoy, and trying to explain the reasons why people find it a useful and beneficial tool in their lives.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I don't see why there's any need for me TO try the stuff. Will I be a better person for having drank a beer? Of course not, it wouldn't matter in the slightest.



Some but not enough to worry about becoming a drunk or anything. It's not that I'm afraid I'll end up like him as much as I've just grown an intolerante hatred of seeing people drink (even without being drunk) because of it. To actualy drink myself would be like stabbing myself in the eye with a razer blade. I won't go out with people who plan on drinking (even if just casually) and I won't go to anywhere that serves alcohol save places like Applebees.

I know it's irrational but I'd never push my views on other people (as I honestly don't think drinking is wrong... though I think drunkedness is wrong and rediculous). I don't mind if people I know want to go out and have a drink - it's their right and I hope they have a blast - just don't get mad at me for heading home instead.

I don't want to drink, my wife doesn't want to drink (and also has never had a drop) and the majority of our friends don't drink so it really isn't a problem. It's mostly work people who invite me to go out with them that get insulted when I politely refuse. Either I go and be miserable, I go and ask them not to drink, or I excuse myself and let them have a nice time. I think I'm being polite when I say no.

Fair enough. There's no reason for you to start drinking other than "it might be fun" as it surely won't make you a better person. If your life is fun enough without it, then continue on with your sobriety

 

[Lantern Venom]

It seems wierd to me to state that booze can't hurt you but then give a small list of situations where it can. My mentality is that if it can alter the way I'd normally act or think it's not worth my time. I'm perfectly happy being me, I don't need help with it.

You are right. It can indeed compromise your higher brain function, leading is possible life-altering mistakes/bad decisions. I know the argument is always, 'that's only for people who overdo it', but how many drinkers have you ever known who stop after a single drink? A couple? A few? It's an insignificant amount in any case.

Beyond the legal/personal problems it can create, alcohol can, even in moderate amounts, affect slow wave sleep and damage brain cells. The more you drink, the more you chance the poisoning effects it can have on the heart, liver, and brain. Drinking is a habit with very little up side and a cliff for a down side.

 

[CelticPredator]

Well...if your goal is to get drunk, why would you stop at a single drink? If your goal is to drink the tasty beverage, then sure, you can stop.

I think people hang around a lot of dumb people who dont know how to handle their liquor.

And guess what, I dont drink that much. And guess what...it's not a habit. And guess...what...I know how to handle my liquor...

So, just because idiots end up doing idiotic things while under the influence, doesn't mean the world does.

 

[The Morningstar]

It's like pretty much anything. You overdo it, it's not gonna be good.

I mean, you don't see people say "Well I better not eat, because I might go overboard and become obese!"

 

[CelticPredator]

^ Hahaha....haha...

 

[Lantern Venom]

It's like pretty much anything. You overdo it, it's not gonna be good.

I mean, you don't see people say "Well I better not eat, because I might go overboard and become obese!"

Two differences: 1) you have to eat to stay alive, you don't need alcohol 2) the worst consequence of overeating once will likely be a large, smelly dump. Have a few too many beers one night and you might permanently change your life for the worse.

 

[CelticPredator]

^ If you're a tool, then yeah.

But no. If you get drunk, and you have a sound mind, you'll be OK. It's the people who get so drunk they have no idea where they are, and those are the idiots that get hurt.

 

[Lantern Venom]

^ If you're a tool, then yeah.

But no. If you get drunk, and you have a sound mind, you'll be OK. It's the people who get so drunk they have no idea where they are, and those are the idiots that get hurt.

Contradictory. If you are drunk or high, you don't have a sound mind for a few hours. I'll reiterate my original post, if you drink, the best thing you can do for yourself and others is stay home.

 

[Brain Damage]

Weed is awsome, and illegal..

Decriminalized t:

 

[The Morningstar]

Two differences: 1) you have to eat to stay alive, you don't need alcohol 2) the worst consequence of overeating once will likely be a large, smelly dump. Have a few too many beers one night and you might permanently change your life for the worse.

The point is that booze, like pretty much everything, in moderation, isn't this harmful devil that will destroy your life.

I just find it funny when people are like "Oh no, i will never drink alcohol! I don't want to be a wreck who doesn't remember what he did last night!"

That's just pure ignorance. And it's pretty immature and childish too.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

The point is that booze, like pretty much everything, in moderation, isn't this harmful devil that will destroy your life.

I just find it funny when people are like "Oh no, i will never drink alcohol! I don't want to be a wreck who doesn't remember what he did last night!"

That's just pure ignorance. And it's pretty immature and childish too.

But with booze a person can overdo it and die from a single event of drinking. Where as getting stoned, the worst that can happen is you throw up and pass out. Which both don't happen very often.

Agreed, I don't care if someone doesn't drink, but there's a lot of misinformation, both for alcohol and drugs alike, that give people the wrong impression there for they respond with such statements at the one mentioned above.

 

[terry78]

I think it's because people put a lot of emphasis on alcohol in society so it may give someone the impression that they HAVE to, lest they be the outcast forever. A lot of **** over the years has happened over drinks that may not have happened otherwise, so you know.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Where as getting stoned, the worst that can happen is you throw up and pass out. Which both don't happen very often.

That is not the worst thing that can happen as a result of smoking weed...

 

[The Morningstar]

What is then? I've smoked weed and been around people who smoke weed for decades. And the worst i've heard is of someone "greening out". Which is basically just puking and falling asleep.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

How about getting arrested for impaired driving when you drive to Taco Bell at 2am when the munchies kick in. I think that's worse than throwing up.

 

[The Morningstar]

heh, well, should have got a delivery

 

[hopefuldreamer]

What is then? I've smoked weed and been around people who smoke weed for decades. And the worst i've heard is of someone "greening out". Which is basically just puking and falling asleep.

You've NEVER heard of someone getting anxiety, paranoia or depression?

I smoked weed heavily from the age or 14-17. A big group of us did. Every day, bong after bong. It was all we did. And it was absolutely brilliant at the time. I never puked off it, I never span out, I never wigged like i've seen some people do.

And then one day, it just hit me. I started getting these waves of panic at a party where 4 of us had plowed through a particularly large amount of smoke. I had no idea what was going on and it was terrifying.

That got continually worse, until it was happening every single day. It took me two years to get over that, and get back to a point where I could even have a drink.

 

[The Morningstar]

Well that's a long term thing. I mean there isn't really a short term danger to weed. You wouldn't overdose and die off it, like you can with other drugs, including alcohol.

But yea, long term smoking of the sweet mary jane can **** you up.