Age of Ultron Your worries/concerns with Age of Ultron

[hoy-small-fry]

Avengers got widely ridiculed for its Phantom Menace style catch-all ending, so I can't seem them doing it again. They'll have to either infect the entire network of Ultrons or literally smash them all. Always a problem having the little guys to deal with

 

[speno94]

I'm fine with Baron Von Strucker having 10-15 minutes of screen time in AOU because it's not his story, but I hope we see him again in other films because Thomas Kretschmann is great casting and I really liked his look in The Winter Soldier mid-credit scene. So I hope it's not just 10 mins of screen time and then that's it, we don't see him in the MCU again.

I'm a little confused... was Red Skull the original WW2 HYDRA leader and Von Strucker is now the modern day HYDRA leader or is Von Strucker just the leader of a certain faction of HYDRA because Alexander Pierce was like the public face of SHIELD/HYDRA in a way, but it didn't seem like he was the overall leader.

 

[samsnee]

Yeah, they have to make it differently, so when the Avengers defeat all the drones then Ultron himself drops dead.

Nah that's like the end of Iron Man 2.

 

[Zant]

biggest problem: don't screw up cap am again...pls pls pls

I want the badass cap from tws

Can someone explain to me how Cap got screwed in the Avengers. I'm having some trouble with that notion.

 

[SuperSanchez]

Im scared that they're gonna try to do too much into this film (biting more than they can chew) hopefully its run time is at least 2 and a half hours to compencate for the storyline there choosing to do. But then again, this movie is coming from the studio who brought a talking tree and racoon to the big screen and made it work so I say bring it on!

 

[Son of Coul]

Can someone explain to me how Cap got screwed in the Avengers. I'm having some trouble with that notion.

Specifically his action stuff. Some felt he came off much weaker than he should've. For me, it's bothersome in one particular scene where Cap can't seem to take out a goon with a gun to pull a lever. Putting the characters through the grinder is fine, but I found this troublesome on a story level, since in my mind this should've really been the scene where Cap fully earns Stark's respect to make him step aside for the climax as leader, but instead Stark does all the heavy lifting, including saving Cap by knocking the goon on his ass.

As far as Stark knows, he had to order Cap to meet him outside and pull a lever while he did all the calculating and physical labor, then had to save his ass from a random henchman, all the while Cap has a gun that he can't seem to fire. There's not really a strong segue from him disrespecting Steve to him asking to be ordered around by him.

In fact, that's my only major beef with the first movie. Not all the dumb minute details like the Chitauri dropping dead in unison or "not enough Hawkeye" or anything, since it has direct impact on the story in a negative way for me.

 

[smallville fan]

Just want to check, stop me if this has been covered but what if Ultron doesn't get the kind of character development Loki had? Loki had the Thor movie to help do the heavy lifting and became a more compelling villain with a 3 dimensional arc. Just hoping Ultron doesn't become another Malekith or Ronan.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

Just want to check, stop me if this has been covered but what if Ultron doesn't get the kind of character development Loki had? Loki had the Thor movie to help do the heavy lifting and became a more compelling villain with a 3 dimensional arc. Just hoping Ultron doesn't become another Malekith or Ronan.

What if that happens, well then a lot of people will be disappointed because most of us feel Ultron will top Loki by a distance and Marvel will firmly hold the 'Rubbish Villain Award'

Reasons why hopefully this won't occur, Whedon always wanted Ultron as a baddie, in fact the only reason I think he came back is because of Ultron. Malekith and Ronan both had extra scenes cut, which isn't going to occur with Ultron because a) there will be a longer run time b) a lot of the focus will be on Ultron unlike M & R.

Ultron is literally made by the most popular hero in MCU which itself creates a dynamic closer to Loki/Thor than any of the lamer villains.

Ultron isn't going to try and kill the Avengers and humanity just because, he will have reasons. Ronan was a radical and whilst Malekith had a reason it wasn't exactly interesting or explored.

Also whilst Loki did have Thor to do a lot of lifting, let's not forget there would have been millions and millions who saw Avengers without seeing Thor and most of them still enjoyed Loki.

PS- He has James Spader's voice

 

[Shikamaru]

My biggest worry at the moment is that the GA won't be let in on what a badass Hawkeye can be and continue the trend of the first film. I know Joss said he'll get more screentime, but that by itself isn't enough of an indicator he'll be redeemed. I would argue Thor had as much screen time as some other characters in the first film, but didn't have near the same amount of development.

I want Hawkeye to be a sleeper hit equivalent to Ruffalo's Hulk in the first film.

 

[Keehar]

I thought they said Hawkeye had a much bigger role this time?

 

[smallville fan]

Reasons why hopefully this won't occur, Whedon always wanted Ultron as a baddie, in fact the only reason I think he came back is because of Ultron. Malekith and Ronan both had extra scenes cut, which isn't going to occur with Ultron because a) there will be a longer run time b) a lot of the focus will be on Ultron unlike M & R.

Whedon was hesitant to come back to Avengers 2?

 

[Lilbaz]

I'm fine with Baron Von Strucker having 10-15 minutes of screen time in AOU because it's not his story, but I hope we see him again in other films because Thomas Kretschmann is great casting and I really liked his look in The Winter Soldier mid-credit scene. So I hope it's not just 10 mins of screen time and then that's it, we don't see him in the MCU again.

I'm a little confused... was Red Skull the original WW2 HYDRA leader and Von Strucker is now the modern day HYDRA leader or is Von Strucker just the leader of a certain faction of HYDRA because Alexander Pierce was like the public face of SHIELD/HYDRA in a way, but it didn't seem like he was the overall leader.

Skull formed Hydra and was their leader. Think Pierce was the modern day leader. When Ward (AOS) goes looking for Hydra, he isn't sure who is leading them in the US and states that Strucker is out of the country. Whitehall was leading the US faction. Now he's dead I think that leaves Strucker as leader.

Thats how I see it. Although I'm sure others will see it differently and I may have missed something. There might not have been a single leader in the modern era. With Garrick, Pierce, Strucker all having roles. Or there may be someone we haven't heard of yet. Also where Zola fits in is another question. Would they follow a computer programe?

 

[Khonshu]

Specifically his action stuff. Some felt he came off much weaker than he should've. For me, it's bothersome in one particular scene where Cap can't seem to take out a goon with a gun to pull a lever. Putting the characters through the grinder is fine, but I found this troublesome on a story level, since in my mind this should've really been the scene where Cap fully earns Stark's respect to make him step aside for the climax as leader, but instead Stark does all the heavy lifting, including saving Cap by knocking the goon on his ass.

As far as Stark knows, he had to order Cap to meet him outside and pull a lever while he did all the calculating and physical labor, then had to save his ass from a random henchman, all the while Cap has a gun that he can't seem to fire. There's not really a strong segue from him disrespecting Steve to him asking to be ordered around by him.

In fact, that's my only major beef with the first movie. Not all the dumb minute details like the Chitauri dropping dead in unison or "not enough Hawkeye" or anything, since it has direct impact on the story in a negative way for me.

+1 for great post. I felt the same way.

I think that character development always gets sacrificed in films with this kind of giant action. I'm hoping that Whedon can squeeze in a bit for the core roster and still give us satisfying arcs for Ultron, the twins, and Strucker.

 

[Uskok]

I'm fine with Baron Von Strucker having 10-15 minutes of screen time in AOU because it's not his story, but I hope we see him again in other films because Thomas Kretschmann is great casting and I really liked his look in The Winter Soldier mid-credit scene. So I hope it's not just 10 mins of screen time and then that's it, we don't see him in the MCU again.

I'm a little confused... was Red Skull the original WW2 HYDRA leader and Von Strucker is now the modern day HYDRA leader or is Von Strucker just the leader of a certain faction of HYDRA because Alexander Pierce was like the public face of SHIELD/HYDRA in a way, but it didn't seem like he was the overall leader.

Skull formed Hydra and was their leader. Think Pierce was the modern day leader. When Ward (AOS) goes looking for Hydra, he isn't sure who is leading them in the US and states that Strucker is out of the country. Whitehall was leading the US faction. Now he's dead I think that leaves Strucker as leader.

Thats how I see it. Although I'm sure others will see it differently and I may have missed something. There might not have been a single leader in the modern era. With Garrick, Pierce, Strucker all having roles. Or there may be someone we haven't heard of yet. Also where Zola fits in is another question. Would they follow a computer programe?

The Red Skull was the founder and first leader of HYDRA, Zola was the second. As for Pierce and Strucker, I think they kinda shared the leadership, because Daniel Whitehall was also called one of HYDRA's heads.

 

[warcam]

I'm worried that the movie won't be a bigger b.o. success than the first one (not that I have any major stake in it financially). While I absolutely love that this movie will be much darker in tone with major repercussions for the characters, I'm afraid a lot of the GA will not rush to the theaters, let alone repeatedly, BECAUSE of the fact that, judging from the trailers and articles, there will be an absence of those light-hearted moments, not to mention the hype that surrounded the first one seeing these characters together for the 1st time.
People need to remember that, while Godfather 2, Wrath of Khan, and ESB have gone down in history as being as good as, if not better than, their predecessors, they did not outperform them at the b.o. 1) because they (esp. ESB) were darker in tone, and 2) the initial hype surround the 1st ones had worn off. And let's face it: $600 million + domestically is a lot of damn $$.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

Nah I can't see it outgrossing Avengers either, but it'll certainly crack the $1 billion ceiling

 

[warcam]

I'm willing to bet it'll come close to matching the first one, but with less on the domestic side, and more from foreign.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

My concern is that I won't have a napkin at the ready when I am consuming my greasy popcorn; spurring me to wipe the grime on some pitiful man or lady encircling me.

My second concern is not to be sitting next to a person of the fatty kind. I want to be able to watch the film with the comfort of not being squeezed in the vice of a love handle long enlarged by fat.

 

[Elayis]

My concerns/worries based on what we got in the first one:

weak plot
poor dialogue
overabundance of & ill-timed humor
tony stark & friends
monologue spouting villain
too many characters, not enough screen time
large, filler robot army (again)


What I’m excited about:

Spader
more realistic, darker tone (it is presumably an end-of-the-world scenario)
Avengers as a proper team
Vision

 

[Tacit Ronin]

more realistic, darker tone

It may be darker, moodier (certainly more color corrected), but it's just as outlandish as the first one.

As it should be.

 

[redhawk23]

I hope Wheaton vastly improved his directing skills, since the first Avengers.

Hopefully it'll actually feel like a cinematic film this time.

If he wasn't known for TV no one would ever say things like this.

Slap a non-TV director's name on the exact same film and no one would ever call it "non-cinematic."

 

[MbJ]

This joke wasn't funny the first five times you posted it.

 

[Godzillasaurus]

No worries, MbJ. I foresee a quick and painless banishment for him

 

[Snow Queen]

That it may have a lack of satisfying character arcs.

 

[DoubleO88]

That after the Russo's single handily legitimised the entire MCU with one movie (CA:TWS) Joss Whedon could turn it back into an SNL skit version of the Marvel Universe again. Like Iron Man 3, Thor: The Dark World and somewhat Guardians of the Galaxy was.