Age of Ultron Your worries/concerns with Age of Ultron

[TheVision]

Once Tony made the new V element for the arc reactor, he didnt need to deal with the shrapnel anymore. So when they take it out in IM3, its pretty unimportant to me. How did they do it? Some device that magnetizes the bits until they take em out i guess. As far as the suits go: The entire movie was about his PTSD from Avengers and the Iron Legion suits were like his security blanket. By the end he is over that stuff and decides to get back to the basics. He never said "I quit being Iron Man". He just said He is Iron Man with or without a suit or suits.

 

[DoubleO88]

The fact that Mandarin is asian or white or afghan shouldn't matter. Just be a good villain. For that social commentary, that imo was poorly executed, we lost a potential great villain that had character and traded for a pointless joke character we'll never see again unless we need a cheap joke to pop up randomly in a movie.

Imagine that Trevor scene played out exactly how it did but then as soon as Tony left, he was badass serious Mandarin again. Now that would've been awesome. That would've been different and unique and in a freakish way scary, it would've given Mandarin a ton of character. I kept waiting for him to switch back to badass mode but it didn't happen.

I see what you mean about watching it over and over, you begin to accept it more and more, it's almost like when your in a **** job, you just end up getting used to it and before you know it you're like, "it's not so bad". It happened to me with TFA, I thought it was really mediocre when I first saw it, didn't hate it but I was left underwhelmed. But after watching a few more times and finally the other week It's really grown on me, I see it in a different light now. I thoroughly enjoyed it and I rate it higher in my top 10 MCU films. I don't think that will happen with Iron Man 3 because It's the first and only (so far) MCU film I truly dislike. The others I still enjoy. So IM3 will stay the black sheep of the MCU movies for me. I appreciate the first half of the film it was great, especially when Tony's subconscious controlled MK42 in his sleep and nearly attacked Pepper and the dream of the wormhole, loved all that stuff. And the checking his heart rate in the old beat up MK7, loved all of that wish the film focused on that tone and had jokes here and there but not everywhere. Tony shoulda had a mullet and just a moustache without the goatee in 1999, would've been a nice little easter egg to the comics in the 70's and season 2 of the 90's cartoon.

Be honest now Vision, when you watch the Iron Man 3 trailer, the second one.
Don't you think that movie woulda been cooler? Because you know the trailer is very different from the movie. Different tone entirely, in-fact that's one of the main reasons I'm sceptical about Age of Ultron now, the trailer is so dark coupled with all that talk from Joss about Ultron being funny and a spoilt brat and a angsty teen. I'm afraid Ultron will literally end up moaning like a crying teenager at some point and not sarcastically or ironically but literally. I'm scared.

 

[TheVision]

^^ I havent watched the IM3 trailers in years so I cant say atm. Youre kinda second guessing these movies. You could do that with everything. Oh wouldnt "THIS MOVIE" have been better if they did it THIS way? Of course, movies can be changed and made better or worse. Its kinda pointless to do that imo. Id rather just watch the film and appreciate what it has rather than what it hasnt. Shane Black's voice isnt James Gunns or Joss Whedons or Quentin Tarantinos or Neil Simons. Its his. That was HIS story he wanted to tell. I liked his story about Iron Man and appreciate it had a different flavor than the first two. It was satisfying for me. Age of Ultron sounds crazy to me, people keep saying its bonkers and ULTRON def sounds like he could be the best super villain in the entire MCU up to now. An AI loaded with anger, weird eccentricities and flaws performed by James Spader? How can that not be Gold?

 

[DoubleO88]

^^ I havent watched the IM3 trailers in years so I cant say atm. Youre kinda second guessing these movies. You could do that with everything. Oh wouldnt "THIS MOVIE" have been better if they did it THIS way? Of course, movies can be changed and made better or worse. Its kinda pointless to do that imo. Id rather just watch the film and appreciate what it has rather than what it hasnt. Shane Black's voice isnt James Gunns or Joss Whedons or Quentin Tarantinos or Neil Simons. Its his. That was HIS story he wanted to tell. I liked his story about Iron Man and appreciate it had a different flavor than the first two. It was satisfying for me. Age of Ultron sounds crazy to me, people keep saying its bonkers and ULTRON def sounds like he could be the best super villain in the entire MCU up to now. An AI loaded with anger, weird eccentricities and flaws performed by James Spader? How can that not be Gold?

I didn't like his story but hey, we can't all be hive minds like Ultron lol It was probably Drew Pearce that ****ed it up more than Black anyway,
I hope Age of Ultron is everything you say it is. Im very excited for it. Ive heard great things. I love how dark the trailers are, so dark it's scaring the people that are fans of the comedy in the MCU. I just hope the movie delivers what it's promising.

 

[TheVision]

^^ What makes it so much better for Joss is that 1) he had the concept for how he wanted to portray ULTRON since BEFORE he made Avengers 1. 2) After A1 made the $$ it did, he most likely got the say over how he wanted to do the follow up 3) He had much more time/help to create the ultimate Avengers sequel.

 

[metaphysician]

*dreams of a day when the irrational fan outrage over IM3 finally dies*

 

[kguillou]

Ok, you guys are going to absolutely, positively hate me for saying this but my one big concern for this movie (And Civil War) is...RDJ's Tony Stark. In my humble opinion, I just have not enjoyed RDJ's Tony Stark interpretation since IM 1. In IM 1 he was PERFECT. Literally perfect, he was Tony Stark personified. He was that smooth, debonair, fancy suit wearing, martini sipping, womanizing guy from the comics that I know and love. After Im 1 though, I feel like RDJ completely threw that out the window and was basically just playing himself and became progressively more jokey and silly and less Tony Stark-like.

I know I'm the ONLY person in the world that thinks this but I would like to see a more serious and sophisticated Tony going forward and a return to form to the Tony Stark from Iron Man 1. Less jokes and quips, and more "billionaire, playboy philanthropist" is what I want to see. Alas, I know I won't though because people have fallen in love with the jokey Tony. I just wish we could go back to that more Howard Hughes-esque, fancy Tony Stark, that's all.

 

[jaqua99]

*dreams of a day when the irrational fan outrage over IM3 finally dies*

See, to me, this is just as bad as the supposed "irrational fan outrage".

What makes it irrational? The apparent outrage comes from somewhere, and that's what some people feel regarding the movie. You're gonna call it irrational? People are entitled to their opinion. Iron man 3 being great is also an opinion. It may be unanimous but it's still also an opinion.

As far as worries for this movie. Honestly, lately it's Joss. I hope our villain isn't handled weakly like Loki. Joss' recent comments about Ultron's powers make me nervous. He said they basically dumbed him down cause they don't want him to be "indestructible" "because then he would win". I'm worried we don't get a tough villain. Again. If this is the case, as I said in the other thread, I'm glad Joss is out of IW. Very glad

 

[TheVision]

MCU ULTRON will be better than the comics ULTRON on every level. He'll actually have a personality and depth, it wont just be some robot yelling "DIE DIE DIE" for 2 hours. "Dumbed down" I highly doubt Joss is doing that. Hes just saying that you cant have a simplistic invincible villain that is just a virtual tidal wave and nothing else. I agree totally with that. So what if ULTRON doesnt have every single crazy power from the comics? Again, this is the film adaptation, you gotta alter things for it to work.

Now Loki was handled weakly in The Avengers? haha riiiight

 

[Spitfire]

Discussions about IM3 can get very heated as there are such strong opinions in the like/dislike camps. As the post above stated there's no problem with disagreement (never getting any debates would indicate a bland movie IMO). Personally I liked IM3, but loved IM1 which it doesn't come close to matching. IM2 had many flaws and it's one of my least favourite Marvel movies.

As for AoU anything we write now is just speculation. I have never disliked as many rumours associated with a movie as I have for AoU. Doesn't mean it won't be a great movie, but I won't find out until April!

 

[jaqua99]

MCU ULTRON will be better than the comics ULTRON on every level. He'll actually have a personality and depth, it wont just be some robot yelling "DIE DIE DIE" for 2 hours. "Dumbed down" I highly doubt Joss is doing that. Hes just saying that you cant have a simplistic invincible villain that is just a virtual tidal wave and nothing else. I agree totally with that.

Now Loki was handled weakly in The Avengers? haha riiiight

I'm talking about physicality and his powers, and how far that can take him in the film.
Loki WAS handled weakly.
Got knocked on his ass twice by Iron man
Beat up by Thor
Got beat up by Hulk.
Black Widow played him for a fool.
His characterization was cool. But he had absolutely no feats in that film. All he did for abilities was make copies of himself.
His army was more of a threat than him.
As far as his abilities, and fights go, yes...he was handled very weakly.

"Hes just saying that you cant have a simplistic invincible villain that is just a virtual tidal wave and nothing else."

I get that.
But he says that while talking about Ultron's powers. Obviously he needs to have depth, but I'm not talking about his characterization. I never said anything about that at all. I'm talking about his physical prowess, and my hopes that he doesn't get made a fool through out the movie like Loki was.

You're trying to dispute my opinion I feel like, and are mocking my opinion. This is the "worries and concerns" thread. I said my worries and concerns, am I not allowed to feel how I feel? lol

 

[TheVision]

Loki's weakness aspect: Well he isnt ULTRON, hes just an Asgardian (stronger than humans) with a scepter that shoots lasers. How powerful can he really be against all The Avengers?

ULTRONS powers: I cant say for sure how strong he'll be, but I think he'll be using more than just laser rays and his bots to wreak havoc on The Avengers. Itll be like psychological warfare to really mess with them. Theres one shot in the trailer where he zaps Iron Man and totally punks him like hes a tin can. This wont be like IM 2 where he and Rhodey zap Whiplash and its over. This is gonna be longer, more messy and more brutal.

 

[Xeno]

It's hard to believe that there are ten pages of anxiety-filled pages about AOU fears. "I'm scared!" Really? I don't know whether to or

 

[Mike5575]

It's hard to believe that there are ten pages of anxiety-filled pages about AOU fears. "I'm scared!" Really? I don't know whether to or

I know, right? My mind's drawing a blank. I'm afraid the movie will be too awesome for me to handle.

 

[DoubleO88]

Ok, you guys are going to absolutely, positively hate me for saying this but my one big concern for this movie (And Civil War) is...RDJ's Tony Stark. In my humble opinion, I just have not enjoyed RDJ's Tony Stark interpretation since IM 1. In IM 1 he was PERFECT. Literally perfect, he was Tony Stark personified. He was that smooth, debonair, fancy suit wearing, martini sipping, womanizing guy from the comics that I know and love. After Im 1 though, I feel like RDJ completely threw that out the window and was basically just playing himself and became progressively more jokey and silly and less Tony Stark-like.

I know I'm the ONLY person in the world that thinks this but I would like to see a more serious and sophisticated Tony going forward and a return to form to the Tony Stark from Iron Man 1. Less jokes and quips, and more "billionaire, playboy philanthropist" is what I want to see. Alas, I know I won't though because people have fallen in love with the jokey Tony. I just wish we could go back to that more Howard Hughes-esque, fancy Tony Stark, that's all.

I can see where you're coming from man, I thought Tony was always a little too jokey as well, especially in Iron Man 3 with his dancing bit at the beginning, (What was that?) But you must admit, when Joss had control of him in Avengers, he felt like IM1 Tony again. His all around seriousness in the final battle. His anger and sadness at Coulson's death (he cared more about Coulson dying than Pepper). His "WE'RE NOT SOLDIERS!" retort to Cap. And his cold, "I have a plan, attack". He felt more like Iron Man in Avengers, than Iron Man 2 and 3 put together. And from the looks of the AOU trailer, Tony is going through some serious changes and I think we can expect a more serious Tony Stark going into the future, of course expect quips and jokes still, it's inevitable but I think we won't see the Iron Man 2 or 3 Tony Stark again for a while, where he seemed more like a parody of the character.

 

[TheVision]

Tonys gonna look bad no matter how you twist it. He created ULTRON = MEGAFAIL. Theres no going back from that. The orig party animal Howard Hughes-esque playboy wiseass might be gone for good after AOU.

 

[Keehar]

We're getting multiple various accounts on what his origin is. I hope is streamlined in the movie.

Must have missed these. I thought his origin was Stark builds him. What are the other accounts of his origin you've heard?

 

[TheVision]

^^ The official synopsis says that ULTRON starts out as a "dormant peacekeeping program discovered somewhere in the wreckage of the Chitauri invasion" (Note: its not a Chitauri related program as some have thought). Tony takes the program and modifies it somehow and thats where ULTRON is born.

Im betting the word ULTRON stands for something too.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

So that's one, single report? Nothing conflicting there

 

[Dasher10]

That War Machine will be killed off.

 

[DarthAlani]

That Iron Man will have a character shield that will allow him to overcome any opponent in the MCU.

 

[TheVision]

sounds like RDJ will be sticking around awhile.

 

[Keehar]

^^ The official synopsis says that ULTRON starts out as a "dormant peacekeeping program discovered somewhere in the wreckage of the Chitauri invasion" (Note: its not a Chitauri related program as some have thought). Tony takes the program and modifies it somehow and thats where ULTRON is born.

Im betting the word ULTRON stands for something too.

That sounds cool to me. Tony is still responsible for making Ultron since he tinkered with it.

 

[Khonshu]

I'm starting to worry that despite all the awesomeness that is about to unfold, our ever-increasing demand for MCU characters and stories and the announced film slate will have us "get through" A2 so that we can move on to the next films. Ultron? Yeah, yeah... Wait until we see THANOS!

 

[TheVision]

Josh Brolin is gonna have to really prove himself to be a super deadly legendary character like Thanos after James Spader's ULTRON.