Carmine Falcone
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Why is the Hayter script so great? Didn't he change the ending?
french joker said:Greengrass was a better choice
I kind of agree with you. I think he is a very talented director that unfortunately got stuck with a movie that no one wanted to see for his first movie. Even though it was an unwanted remake, it was still pretty good.Chaos Bringer said:You sure?
DOTD was such a great film for a number of remarkable reasons...
Snyder can seriously create tension in a non-cheese way. I think he knows how to shoot real people and can tell a great story. I kinda wish he was given XMen. I'm very happy with this choice.
Snyder is a mighty director.
Carmine Falcone said:Why is the Hayter script so great? Didn't he change the ending?
Carmine Falcone said:Why is the Hayter script so great? Didn't he change the ending?
Motown Marvel said:no, not really...well kind of...it was reworked in a way that would work better for film, but the results are the same. like, the idea of a giant genetically manufactured space alien transported to and exploding in NY killing half the city isnt gonna be bought by a general audience. that sort of thing works in a comic...but not so much in a movie. the ending still has half of NY being destroyed, but just in a different fashion....i forget exactly how its done, but...
Gogo Bananas said:No matter what they do, Alan Moore will whine and disown the project.
Gogo Bananas said:And I betcha they work 9/11 and terrorists into it somehow, just to modernize it.
As if Rorschach's character wasn't already pretty washed-down in Hayter's draft. Most of his political views were reduced to "F*** tha Police", anyway. Now this. Fantastic. It's Sam Hamm all over again.In Tse’s draft we see Rorschach, the crazy vigilante, fighting cops in almost every single scene that he’s in.
Funny how his vision differs from Greengrass's. He saw the movie more as a conspiracy theory thing, focusing more on the public's fears (Cold War/9-11) while Snyder seems more interested on the crime mistery side of it.(...)QUINT: I have to bring up WATCHMEN before they pull me away...
ZACH SNYDER: Ah, yeah. Of course.
QUINT: The one question more than any other that is on fan's minds is how the hell are you going to fit that entire story into one movie?
ZACH SNYDER: Hrmm...
QUINT: I know you probably don't want to go into much detail, but...
ZACH SNYDER: No, no, no, no, no... I don't mind talking about it. I love it. It's an awesome thing. It's a crazy and strange turn of events that it ends up on my desk with someone going, "Oh, you want to make this into a movie?" I'm like, "What? Are you kidding me?" Seems like a mistake, but also one that I'm not going to tell anyone about because, you know, I'm probably over-sensitive... maybe too much. You know, my experience with the material so far and the different drafts that had been written, including Alex (Tse)'s latest and the book itself... When I was introduced to it in-motion. I hadn't read the other drafts when it was in development.
Now, when we started they were like, "Hey, what do you think?" Boom, here's all the drafts in a big pile next to me.
Basically I got the book and the script and put them next together. For me, my copy of WATCHMEN is highlighted and things are written all over it. My first order of business, and it's a thing that I can't say anyone has got a handle on, except for me, is getting the ideas of the book into the screenplay. The (David) Hayter draft to some extent does and Alex's to some extent does, but I don't think anyone has cracked it.
The problem of WATCHMEN isn't the mystery of who is killing who, it's not the love story, it's not the betrayals or anything like that. I think the problem is that the screenwriters, and maybe rightly so... the mechanics is the first thing they worry about, you know? Of course, if you don't have the mechanics you can't hang story on it.
For me, the work of WATCHMEN is you take those stories and you figure out how you get at the essence of the book. The book is transcendent of the story. The philosophy of the book... that's what needs to get put back in the screenplays, in my opinion.
I'm waiting to see what Alex does next. I think beyond that my hope is to... now that we're finishing 300 hundred, my hope is to really set some good time aside to really roll up my sleeves and go, "Not only here's the ideas, here's the frames I love. This HAS to be in the movie..."
QUINT: Are you wanting to go for a more realistic, less stylized vision of the world?
ZACH SNYDER: No, I don't know that the filmmakers in the past who have been attached to this... I just don't know what their take on the actual frames were. I gotta believe that they kind of really... I mean, I don't know Paul (Greengrass). I like his movies, but he doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would take a graphic novel and film it, you know what I'm saying? It's going to be verite-ish. Whereas for me, my style is, like, graphic novel. I want to be able to get as much as the graphic novel in the movie as I can. I want the experience of watching the movie to be similar to the experience of reading the graphic novel, but also be its own thing.
I think Alan (Moore) has said himself that the object of a book is to be a book, to be read by the fire and curl up with on a Saturday night. The object of a movie is different.
QUINT: Sometimes they mix together, though.
ZACH SNYDER: Absolutely!
QUINT: With a movie like Sin City and hopefully 300, the fans don't want to see someone's alternate take on this material. They want to see moving versions of their beloved comics. They want to see Frank Miller's SIN CITY, Frank Miller's 300.
ZACH SNYDER: Absolutely, absolutely. But I think the trick is... What we've done with 300, the connective tissue that a movie needs... that's the thing. The connective tissue has to be in the spirit of what was drawn. That's how you make the experience continue.
There you have it, squirts. That's it. Short, I know, but hopefully you have an inkling of what this guy will do. If WATCHMEN looks half as cool and gorgeous and breath-taking as the footage of 300 I saw today, then we're in for a classic.
Hope you enjoyed the chat! Back with more soon!!!