Justice League Zack Snyder Directing Justice League (The Snyder Cut Edition)

[Black Narcissus]

My favorite version of Superman is from Injustice League, but that's because I truly believe a real life Supes would be our version of Homelander. Seeing how the real world is today and has always been, a real life ''Supes'' wouldn't be marching with protesters, he'd be keeping them in check via Trump. Frank Miller was right.

 

[Greenlite]

He’d be silent over HK because of his merchandise and Huawei sponsorship

 

[DS80]

What's so hard to understand about Superman going back to red and blue? Snyder said that the color of the suit - black or red and blue - is about representation. The black one is about his Kryptonian heritage. The red and blue is for the outside world/s as a representation of hope.

He goes back to red and blue after he succumbs to the anti-life because he wants to warp the image of hope.

 

[SupermanFan]

Why would the anti-life equation make Superman revert to his true self? Unless Snyder is dramatically changing the core idea of the anti-life equation, I find that notion a bit baffling.

Well he changed the Mother Boxes aswell, I think you just have to take Snyder’s true on these things as his version of those things. It’s just a different take.

 

[SupermanFan]

Is it crazy thinking to think Superman returns in the red and blue...in Justice League 2? Didn't Zack imply how Supes wears the black suit for mostly JL 1? Zack very well could of been greenlit for his entire vision so JL2 isn't off the table for HBO Max I'd presume.

Wasn’t the original take that

Spoiler

Steppenwolf resurrects Superman as evil and **** hits the fan, so Flash goes back in time and gets the league to resurrect Superman which changes things? I always thought he was in black suit in timeline 1 but in fed & blue in timeline 2.

 

[Herolee10]

What's so hard to understand about Superman going back to red and blue? Snyder said that the color of the suit - black or red and blue - is about representation. The black one is about his Kryptonian heritage. The red and blue is for the outside world/s as a representation of hope.

He goes back to red and blue after he succumbs to the anti-life because he wants to warp the image of hope.

Snyder stated that Superman was meant to revert back to his classic colors in his intended sequel for "Justice League".

Unless I'm mistaken, there have been no reports to suggest that Warner Bros and AT&T have any plans in investing $200 million so that Snyder can finish his original arc for the DCEU.

That means that if Snyder goes through with his original plans for this film then it'll end with Superman still wearing black. Plus, I don't know about anyone else, but I feel like you lose out on something special when you have Superman join the League for the first time and he's not wearing his classic costume.

I don't understand on why we can't get ONE version of "Justice League" where Superman's appearance isn't digitally altered.

 

[DS80]

Are we really questioning the possibility of a Justice League sequel after these past few months?

 

[Greenlite]

He’d be silent over HK because of his merchandise and Huawei sponsorship

What’s the S stand for?

It’s not an S, in my world, it stands for Huawei

 

[divan]

Are we really questioning the possibility of a Justice League sequel after these past few months?

Now that's what I want to hear.

 

[Herolee10]

Are we really questioning the possibility of a Justice League sequel after these past few months?

Investing $30-$50 million to finalize the edit for Snyder's cut is one thing.

But to spend $200 million plus for an HBO Max movie/series is something else entirely.

 

[Micromind]

That means that if Snyder goes through with his original plans for this film then it'll end with Superman still wearing black. Plus, I don't know about anyone else, but I feel like you lose out on something special when you have Superman join the League for the first time and he's not wearing his classic costume.

This is from Snyder shoot, Superman is not in Black suit, there's no way this particular scene was going to have Superman in Black Suit in any version of Snyder's movie (JL Part-1, JL Part-2, or the combined version written by Terrio, or the Snyder's version re-written By Geoff Johns.)

 

[SupermanFan]

This is from Snyder shoot, Superman is not in Black suit, there's no way this particular scene was going to have Superman in Black Suit in any version of Snyder's movie (JL Part-1, JL Part-2, or the combined version written by Terrio, or the Snyder's version re-written By Geoff Johns.)

Well he did say he intended to change it in post and this was probably a part of his compromised version.

 

[Herolee10]

This is from Snyder shoot, Superman is not in Black suit, there's no way this particular scene was going to have Superman in Black Suit in any version of Snyder's movie (JL Part-1, JL Part-2, or the combined version written by Terrio, or the Snyder's version re-written By Geoff Johns.)

I believe the footage that Snyder shot, before he had left the project, was after his original vision for "Justice League" had been compromised.

Snyder's original idea was to have Superman come back in his black costume in "Justice League". Now that Snyder has been given freedom to do as he pleases, that means that he could very well digitally alter Superman's costume so that it aligns with his original vision for the movie.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

Investing $30-$50 million to finalize the edit for Snyder's cut is one thing.

But to spend $200 million plus for an HBO Max movie/series is something else entirely.

Is it tho? Disney is spending 200m on Hawkeye..

GL and the like are said to be next level in "cinematic production value". Meaning they'll have budgets well north of 100m. A 200m JL sequel series doesn't seem that unlikely

 

[SupermanFan]

Maybe there’s a way they can do it cheaper too so we get more character stuff so 8 stead of a follow up costing $200 mil it costs $100 mil and then they do a third season or movie and that’s the same.

 

[divan]

Maybe there’s a way they can do it cheaper too so we get more character stuff so 8 stead of a follow up costing $200 mil it costs $100 mil and then they do a third season or movie and that’s the same.

That's a good point. We must remember that, main actors' contracts aside, not all scenes are equally expensive. Location, extras, VFX, stunt-people, amout of crew... All these factor in how expensive a scene is and thus, the overall budget of the production and a series can't be made of mostly expensive setpieces (and that's not even just a question of economics, Game of Thrones' final season was mostly setpieces and is considered the worst of the bunch in part due to its horrid pacing among other poor decisions on a script level, mainly the lack of scenes explaing stuff or giving character's proper motivation).

 

[Micromind]

Well he did say he intended to change it in post and this was probably a part of his compromised version.

He can still come back and wear the Black regeneration suit, I'm not ruling that out, but Superman will go back to his classic Red and Blue suit in the final act, which is what that photo I posted shows.

I believe that this is not going to change in any version of movie compromised or not.

Edit: Snyder likes to bring the movie story (starting from MoS) full circle, so having Superman in Black suit with rest of JL does not fit with his movie making approach.

 

[dc_mos]

Superman won't wear the Red/Blue suit in ZSJL. Only black. Snyder confirmed it.

 

[Erzengel]

Maybe there’s a way they can do it cheaper too so we get more character stuff so 8 stead of a follow up costing $200 mil it costs $100 mil and then they do a third season or movie and that’s the same.

That's a good point. We must remember that, main actors' contracts aside, not all scenes are equally expensive. Location, extras, VFX, stunt-people, amout of crew... All these factor in how expensive a scene is and thus, the overall budget of the production and a series can't be made of mostly expensive setpieces (and that's not even just a question of economics, Game of Thrones' final season was mostly setpieces and is considered the worst of the bunch in part due to its horrid pacing among other poor decisions on a script level, mainly the lack of scenes explaing stuff or giving character's proper motivation).

If you want JL just talking to each other of course you can do it a JL2 sequel on the cheap. But, this should be on Avengers type level action and then some. If you're trying to attract people, that's the way but then again Snyder's movies or potential series haven't been for everyone.

 

[souperman]

Superman won't wear the Red/Blue suit in ZSJL. Only black. Snyder confirmed it.

When did he confirm that Superman would "only" be wearing the black suit in ZSJL?

That last shirt rip image above is Snyder's... I think Supes comes around.

 

[moviefreak]

We are not getting this. They never even filmed that version.

I said previously that Snyder will try to finish as close to his version as possible. Now I think that he'll produces in his own words, "no compromise" JL --see his vero post:

There're still questions about whether Snyder filmed any pre-GJohns-rewrite scenes.

 

[souperman]

Zack said they never filmed his first vision of JL after WB had a look and said it was crazy "in his words"
They re-wrote it and filmed the second version which I assume was still the version that included the concept of JL1 and JL2 from his comments.

At some point they dropped the idea of JL2 so it was altered in some way to work. ?

At this point Zack and Deb must have come up with some idea that will allow him complete his vision, a new version using the materials he has available with no new "major" ensemble scenes film due to cost, cast availability and covid.

He must have a lot of previous material to work with including stuff from the assembly cut no doubt to fill in some scenes.

He will likely be filming new scenes/shots and ADR in some way that will help tell the story he has in mind.

No doubt VFX will be used to alter some scenes and drive the new story line. I am sure they figured out how to do all this with the resources available to them.

The idea and plan must be pretty good since they convinced ATT/WB to move ahead with it so the new version must make sense and be very interesting and should satisfy "most" of us...

 

[moviefreak]

Zack said they never filmed his first vision of JL after WB had a look and said it was crazy "in his words"
They re-wrote it and filmed the second version which I assume was still the version that included the concept of JL1 and JL2 from his comments.

At some point they dropped the idea of JL2 so it was altered in some way to work. ?

At this point Zack and Deb must have come up with some idea that will allow him complete his vision, a new version using the materials he has available with no new "major" ensemble scenes film due to cost, cast availability and covid.

He must have a lot of previous material to work with including stuff from the assembly cut no doubt to fill in some scenes.

He will likely be filming new scenes/shots and ADR in some way that will help tell the story he has in mind.

No doubt VFX will be used to alter some scenes and drive the new story line. I am sure they figured out how to do all this with the resources available to them.

The idea and plan must be pretty good since they convinced ATT/WB to move ahead with it so the new version must make sense and be very interesting and should satisfy "most" of us...

Yes --this is what I really believe to be the case. However, I think that he may be able to get as close as his & Terrio original version.

 

[moviefreak]

From a reddit poster, a gallery of Snyder & Enos JL photos:

 

[Chip Chipperson]

So are they gonna streamline his proposed JL2 and 3 into this thing? Like all the stuff he talked about at his Vero thing?

I’m really confused now