🇷🇺🇺🇦 Discussion: Relations with Russia and the war in Ukraine

[InCali]

There's a lot of talk that Ukraine pretended to withdraw to draw the Russians after them and set a trap successfully.

It's seemed from the very beginning that Ukraine has had better intelligence than has Russia and has used that to their advantage. UK and US have seemed to be exceptionally helpful in that regard.

Does it seem that way to others?

 

[Iceman]

Ukraine war: Putin vows to hit new targets if West sends weapons to Ukraine

 

[squeekness]

There's a lot of talk that Ukraine pretended to withdraw to draw the Russians after them and set a trap successfully.

I very much hope the gambit succeeds. I could use the good news.

 

[:eek:]

Russia Risking Mariupol Cholera Outbreak With Mass Graves, Water Shortage (newsweek.com)

 

[brandon_varn]

We should probably not focus on Russia, but instead focus on America and all the issues going on in this country. Ukraine should fight for itself. It's oceans away. Though as a Veteran myself I felt drawn to join their defensive force in some ways.

 

[shadowboxxx]

We should probably not focus on Russia, but instead focus on America and all the issues going on in this country. Ukraine should fight for itself. It's oceans away. Though as a Veteran myself I felt drawn to join their defensive force in some ways.

Im sorry, but what do you think Ukraine's been doing?

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

The Daily Beast - Dmitry Medvedev: ‘I‘ll Do Anything to Make Ukrainians Disappear’

This is why we help the Ukrainians fight, and it requires far less sacrifice than they are experiencing or could experience (eradication).

 

[Iceman]

Russia Risking Mariupol Cholera Outbreak With Mass Graves, Water Shortage (newsweek.com)

I’m sure they don’t give a **** about that.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

He was just another Russian gangster thug. We're always dealing with them even if they seem they are young and hip or enjoy taking pictures of their yachts with beautiful women.

 

[InCali]

We should probably not focus on Russia, but instead focus on America and all the issues going on in this country. Ukraine should fight for itself. It's oceans away. Though as a Veteran myself I felt drawn to join their defensive force in some ways.

The world exists as an international community. The argument that we should focus on America existed back in the 1930s when Hitler rose to power. Had the US not gotten involved, we might very well be living in a very different world. What happens in Europe, Asia, Africa, South America, etc. affects everyone and digging your own little hole isn't a viable solution.

There are certainly issues we should focus on in America, but if you can't work on internal and international issues, you're in trouble.

 

[Marvolo]

Ukraine war: Putin vows to hit new targets if West sends weapons to Ukraine

Respond and tell him to try holding his breath and stamping his feet. Maybe the West will do what he wants.

He's already proven he can't be trusted at all, and that he is a blood thirsty madman so what incentive do they have to even consider his threat? Putin is going to hit new targets regardless.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[squeekness]

Hope they get it.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

NBC News - Russian propaganda efforts aided by pro-Kremlin content creators, research finds
A report from the Institute for Strategic Dialogue found that the creators, who make videos in a variety of languages, have flourished since Russia invaded Ukraine.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

USA Today - War will cost Russia 15 years of economic gains; UN says 'global cost-of-living crisis' worsening: Live updates

 

[Iceman]

Ukraine war: Britons Aiden Aslin and Shaun Pinner sentenced to death

 

[Iceman]

Putin: West unlikely to reject Russian energy for years

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

If the next gangster leader after you (Putin) die and doesn't have a death ***** for stealing other people's countries, we'll see.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

The Daily Beast - Kremlin Cronies Say Putin Is Ready to Go Full Kim Jong Un
Putin’s puppets have dropped all pretense that Russia is a law-abiding nation, threatening to unleash chaos and emulate the unhinged nuclear threats of North Korea.

NBC News - Putin compares himself to a famous historical figure, worrying experts about his ambitions
“Putin has been tearing off a lot of masks — what he’s revealing rather consistently is Russia’s new imperial ambitions,” one expert said.

I kind of feel these new articles are months behind the curve.

 

[:eek:]

Another Azovstal? Hundreds of civilians are hiding in this chemical plant (telegraph.co.uk)

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[Lily Adler]

Biden said Zelenskyy 'didn't want to hear it' when US intelligence warned Ukraine that Russia would invade

 

[Iceman]

Russia hands out passports in occupied Ukraine cities

 

[Iceman]

Damn, hope they get enough to hold out.

 

[Marvolo]

Ukraine was never going to win a war of attrition. The only hope they had was NATO ending this war before the attrition caught up to them.