10 Cloverfield Lane

[Heretic]

I don't get the bashing...

This movie is about a group in a bomb shelter after an alleged nuclear type event that has made it unsafe to go outside. Cloverfield was about a giant monster attack that ended with the government nuking the area. There is ZERO reason to expect the monster to be in this. The reasonable sequel would involve a world trying to survive after the nuclear defense was initiated. Perhaps there are small monsters still alive (my memory of the first film is that the big monster dropped a bunch of small ones), but there doesn't have to be. Everyone from the first film is very probably dead. This can be a "sequel" that does not require viewing of the first film, but watching the first film would provide a fuller vision of the world.

 

[Octoberist]

I rewatched the original film and it holds up quite well. Though I cared more for TJ Miller's relationship with lovely Lizzy Caplan than the other two.

 

[JtheDreamer]

I rewatched the original film and it holds up quite well. Though I cared more for TJ Miller's relationship with lovely Lizzy Caplan than the other two.

The scene that still gets me is when they make a break for the subway amidst the army firing on Cloverfield and right before they get there, Clov's head and arm swing over the building.

Just pure money shot. I felt like I was right there in the movie.

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[4thWallBreaker]

I rewatched the original film and it holds up quite well. Though I cared more for TJ Miller's relationship with lovely Lizzy Caplan than the other two.

Spoiler

OMG, same. When her head and belly popped, I was actually upset. It really bothered me.

 

[Matt]

I don't think so. He doesn't owe stuff to people. Why do people NEED to know these things? Just go to the theater and enjoy the frickin' movie. I don't get all the hate for someone who's trying to keep some surprises. If you were a Star Trek fan and looking forward to Into Darkness, what the hell does it change wether or not he revealed that Cumberbatch was Khan!?!? It doesn't affect the final product in any way. It's as if fans want directors to seek approval pre-release. I don't really get that mindset.

And how did he get bit in the ass, exactly? By Star Trek Into Darkness outgrossing the first one worldwide? Or by getting the chance to direct the latest record-breaking blockbuster? Let him do his shtick. Dude's smart.

I am not saying he owes anyone anything. I am saying that vehemently lying to the people who pay your salary is a ****** thing to do. If you don't want to answer questions about spoilers either say it or don't continuously place yourself in front of the camera for interviews.

As for this movie, if it is a bait and switch (which script reviews and test screenings when it was Valencia seem to indicate to be the case), it'll be pretty ****** on Abrams' part and the studio's part. Abrams has already given interviews about this movie (because he cannot help himself). Rather than say things like "Its Cloverfield's cousin," just come out and say it is an anthology. Don't let the audience go in expecting one thing (a proper sequel) only to pull the rug out from under them.

It is one thing to not want spoilers to leak. It is another to mislead your audience. If this is an anthology type of movie, just say it.

 

[4thWallBreaker]

I don't get the bashing...

This movie is about a group in a bomb shelter after an alleged nuclear type event that has made it unsafe to go outside. Cloverfield was about a giant monster attack that ended with the government nuking the area. There is ZERO reason to expect the monster to be in this. The reasonable sequel would involve a world trying to survive after the nuclear defense was initiated. Perhaps there are small monsters still alive (my memory of the first film is that the big monster dropped a bunch of small ones), but there doesn't have to be. Everyone from the first film is very probably dead. This can be a "sequel" that does not require viewing of the first film, but watching the first film would provide a fuller vision of the world.

I very much agree with this. I feel fallout will be the name of the game in this one. Maybe some mutant people. Not necessarily Omega Man, but emaciated, radioactive people. Also, maybe mutations to those parasites you were talking about. We'll see the decaying giant monster at some point when Winstead walks out. My guess is 50/50, rather than like Hidden, where it's like 4/5ths of the movie in an underground bunker. I feel it'll venture out. Maybe earlier than halfway. Not sure.

Goodman has a gun. It's possibly for them to not do anything stupid, but maybe he had it earlier bc of people and monsters? This world could be fantastic, honestly. I'd love an anthology of scifi in the same world.

 

[Galactus10]

@JTheDreamer

Yea that was one of the more immersive movie shots I can remember as well, in all of modern movies. One instance where the Found Footage aspect knocks it out of the park!

Cloverfield was such a fascinating project on many levels so I'm glad it seems to still have some mythology to offer.

I'm really curious as to what the woman sees outside, I'm thinking a herd of the parasitic ticks from the monster. However, since the roof shakes on their bunker, it must surely mean there's some kind of creature feature, no?

It would be really lame if the commotion upstairs was just an earthquake or military tanks or something of that sort. I'm once again intrigued by an Abrams produced trailer

 

[Matt]

I very much agree with this. I feel fallout will be the name of the game in this one. Maybe some mutant people. Not necessarily Omega Man, but emaciated, radioactive people. Also, maybe mutations to those parasites you were talking about. We'll see the decaying giant monster at some point when Winstead walks out. My guess is 50/50, rather than like Hidden, where it's like 4/5ths of the movie in an underground bunker. I feel it'll venture out. Maybe earlier than halfway. Not sure.

Goodman has a gun. It's possibly for them to not do anything stupid, but maybe he had it earlier bc of people and monsters? This world could be fantastic, honestly. I'd love an anthology of scifi in the same world.

No one opposes an anthology series. That isn't anyone's complaint. The complaint is not being told if it is an anthology series. The complaint is that Abrams and the studio seemed to have taken a movie that had no connection to Cloverfield when it was developed and slapped a shiny new coat of paint on it in post-production in order to connect it. Now they are advertising it as a sequel, when its really not.

 

[4thWallBreaker]

I don't get the bashing...

This movie is about a group in a bomb shelter after an alleged nuclear type event that has made it unsafe to go outside. Cloverfield was about a giant monster attack that ended with the government nuking the area. There is ZERO reason to expect the monster to be in this. The reasonable sequel would involve a world trying to survive after the nuclear defense was initiated. Perhaps there are small monsters still alive (my memory of the first film is that the big monster dropped a bunch of small ones), but there doesn't have to be. Everyone from the first film is very probably dead. This can be a "sequel" that does not require viewing of the first film, but watching the first film would provide a fuller vision of the world.

No one opposes an anthology series. That isn't anyone's complaint. The complaint is not being told if it is an anthology series. The complaint is that Abrams and the studio seemed to have taken a movie that had no connection to Cloverfield when it was developed and slapped a shiny new coat of paint on it in post-production in order to connect it. Now they are advertising it as a sequel, when its really not.

Hrm. That is interesting. I can't remember if I posted it here or on YT, but I do remember that "sequel" is a loose statement in terms of what is possible with movie-verses. Like this could be a sister-film, a la Devil's Rejects to House of a 1000 Corpses, this could be sequel-prequel, in that it happens during and after the attack of the monster, and the story that that results in.

I remember reading a comment under the trailer and it's dead on. Guy/gal said you can hear "Clover" at 1:35 mark, I believe. His low grumble. But yea, wherever they take it, I'm excited for it. I wouldn't mind if it had nothing to do with the first or was nothing but that plot but expounded upon.

I'll say it again, Goodman and Winstead? No, there's something juicy to this movie.

 

[Matt]

Hrm. That is interesting. I can't remember if I posted it here or on YT, but I do remember that "sequel" is a loose statement in terms of what is possible with movie-verses. Like this could be a sister-film, a la Devil's Rejects to House of a 1000 Corpses, this could be sequel-prequel, in that it happens during and after the attack of the monster, and the story that that results in.

It could be. In which case I would have no problem with this being a sequel. Except for the fact its probably not. The script has been read. Test screenings have been viewed. All of this was done when the movie was Valencia/The Cellar. During this time it really didn't have anything to do with Cloverfield. If its an anthology, set in that world, and really none of the action is related to Cloverfield, they should just outright say it. If this is an anthology type of movie (Halloween 3), even if it is set in the same world (for example, it is a post-apocalyptic waste land due to Hammer Down Protocol but the similarities end there)...just say it. Drop the secrecy ******** and say it. Then no one would have any complaints because we know exactly what we are getting. No one is complaining about the premise. They are complaining about the potential bait and switch.

I remember reading a comment under the trailer and it's dead on. Guy/gal said you can hear "Clover" at 1:35 mark, I believe. His low grumble. But yea, wherever they take it, I'm excited for it. I wouldn't mind if it had nothing to do with the first or was nothing but that plot but expounded upon.

Oh brother. "ITS A LION! ITS HUGE!" If you are trusting Youtube and what Youtubers hear in trailers, then I have a bridge to sell you.

I'll say it again, Goodman and Winstead? No, there's something juicy to this movie.

I am sure it will be a very good movie. But if it is a bait and switch, fans will be perfectly justified in their anger.

 

[Broseph44]

The scene that still gets me is when they make a break for the subway amidst the army firing on Cloverfield and right before they get there, Clov's head and arm swing over the building.

Just pure money shot. I felt like I was right there in the movie.

Such a great shot for sure, and the noise that Clover let's out. So good.

 

[Heretic]

No one opposes an anthology series. That isn't anyone's complaint. The complaint is not being told if it is an anthology series. The complaint is that Abrams and the studio seemed to have taken a movie that had no connection to Cloverfield when it was developed and slapped a shiny new coat of paint on it in post-production in order to connect it. Now they are advertising it as a sequel, when its really not.

It DOES seem to be connected to Cloverfield. This is a small story about what one group of people were doing during/after the events of Cloverfield. What more do you want? The monster? The monster is probably dead...and it would be stupid to pull a Jason Voorhees and say "the monster was killed...but now it's back!" You want the same actors from the original? Their characters SHOULD be dead. Again, there might be a monster(s) in the film, but it isn't necessary.

The problem seems to be that people expect a cinematic universe to revolve around specific individuals...but that isn't how the world works. Film franchises that revolve around one guy doing absolutely everything that is important in the world year after year after year don't really make a lot of sense. In the world of Cloverfield, a monster attack has affected the entire planet...and new films CAN be made that shows how survivors are reacting to this new reality.

Further, lots of films use one title as a production title, then have the ACTUAL title to promote. Marvel does it with every film. It seems that this is just a case of JJ wanting to keep the link to Cloverfield closer to the vest than usual. In fact, I find it kind of funny that so many people are convinced that JJ Abrams would never try to mislead us or keep secrets.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

unfortunately we're not gonna know how connected to cloverfield it is until we fork over the cash to see the movie. thats what concerns me, unless of course we get more info about the movie in the coming weeks.

I just hope they aren't playing us, because that would be totally messed up. they know theres a cult following and interest in a sequel, this better not be a money grab.

 

[4thWallBreaker]

It could be. In which case I would have no problem with this being a sequel. Except for the fact its probably not. The script has been read. Test screenings have been viewed. All of this was done when the movie was Valencia/The Cellar. During this time it really didn't have anything to do with Cloverfield. If its an anthology, set in that world, and really none of the action is related to Cloverfield, they should just outright say it. If this is an anthology type of movie (Halloween 3), even if it is set in the same world (for example, it is a post-apocalyptic waste land due to Hammer Down Protocol but the similarities end there)...just say it. Drop the secrecy ******** and say it. Then no one would have any complaints because we know exactly what we are getting. No one is complaining about the premise. They are complaining about the potential bait and switch.



Oh brother. "ITS A LION! ITS HUGE!" If you are trusting Youtube and what Youtubers hear in trailers, then I have a bridge to sell you.



I am sure it will be a very good movie. But if it is a bait and switch, fans will be perfectly justified in their anger.

Well, I believe the YouTube commentor bc they're right. Yup.

To the bolded, I think they switched names because they want secrecy but for people to understand that it is indeed in Cloverfield's world. So they retitled it. I honestly think that might be what's happening, but also...

It DOES seem to be connected to Cloverfield. This is a small story about what one group of people were doing during/after the events of Cloverfield. What more do you want? The monster? The monster is probably dead...and it would be stupid to pull a Jason Voorhees and say "the monster was killed...but now it's back!" You want the same actors from the original? Their characters SHOULD be dead. Again, there might be a monster(s) in the film, but it isn't necessary.

The problem seems to be that people expect a cinematic universe to revolve around specific individuals...but that isn't how the world works. Film franchises that revolve around one guy doing absolutely everything that is important in the world year after year after year don't really make a lot of sense. In the world of Cloverfield, a monster attack has affected the entire planet...and new films CAN be made that shows how survivors are reacting to this new reality.

Further, lots of films use one title as a production title, then have the ACTUAL title to promote. Marvel does it with every film. It seems that this is just a case of JJ wanting to keep the link to Cloverfield closer to the vest than usual. In fact, I find it kind of funny that so many people are convinced that JJ Abrams would never try to mislead us or keep secrets.

Exactly. "Blue Harvest," anyone? But I could still see them going for that title to keep it secret and surprise people, but the studios told him that no one will care unless you give them that little bit more. As in telling them it's in the Cloververse by changing the title.

No bait and switch at all. It's just how working titles work.

 

[Bruce Malone]

No one opposes an anthology series. That isn't anyone's complaint. The complaint is not being told if it is an anthology series. The complaint is that Abrams and the studio seemed to have taken a movie that had no connection to Cloverfield when it was developed and slapped a shiny new coat of paint on it in post-production in order to connect it. Now they are advertising it as a sequel, when its really not.

So throwing it out there shouldn't this film have its own thread here isn't of piggybacking off this "cloverfield sequel" one?

 

[TheVileOne]

Abrams and co. clearly want people to think this is a Cloverfield sequel even if its some sort of bizarre anthology universe.

 

[Steyin]

Meh. Cloverfield was ok, but not worth the hype behind it. This is a download for me.

 

[TheVileOne]

Cloverfield had an epic marketing campaign but that's about it.

Remember, the film had a pretty large dropoff after a big opening weekend.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Abrams and co. clearly want people to think this is a Cloverfield sequel even if its some sort of bizarre anthology universe.

Well then they're setting themselves up for huge backlash

 

[Sawyer]

Y'all didn't even know this movie existed three days ago and you're already passing judgment about what they may or may not be doing with it.

Good Gawd, this place has become IMDB level.

 

[TheVileOne]

Y'all didn't even know this movie existed three days ago and you're already passing judgment about what they may or may not be doing with it.

Good Gawd, this place has become IMDB level.

We actually did know existed. This project was not a secret. What was a secret was that it would be released as 10 Cloverfield Lane.

 

[4thWallBreaker]

Y'all didn't even know this movie existed three days ago and you're already passing judgment about what they may or may not be doing with it.

Good Gawd, this place has become IMDB level.

I know. You can't win with people. Snobby or pessimistic, they don't know how to have fun with fiction, whether it's books, tv, comics, movies, or video games. I understand once experiencing it and not enjoying yourself, but teaser? Not even a trailer here, peopleses. It's just a peek.

 

[Mysteryman]

Well, I for one am very excited about this.
It is impressive to me that they were able to keep this a secret for so long.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

It's all apart of JJ's ruse cruise

After reading the script, I have faith that this project will deliver a good movie regardless of its connection to cloverfield.

 

[4thWallBreaker]

It's all apart of JJ's ruse cruise

After reading the script, I have faith that this project will deliver a good movie regardless of its connection to cloverfield.

You read the script and then wanna go see the movie? That's not enjoyable to me. So I'm guessing there's no "Clover"? Don't answer. I want mystery.