10 Cloverfield Lane

[Matt]

Bad Robot was involved, with JJ apparently listed as a producer.

It is simply incorrect to claim that JJ Abrams was not involved prior to Insurge shutting down. You are apparently committed to this incorrect conclusion for reasons all your own.

Any movie that Bad Robot produces, JJ Abrams is a producer of. JJ Abrams was the producer of Morning Glory. That doesn't mean he was involved. Most producer gigs are no-show. I am not saying he only became involved when Insurge shut down. I am saying he only doctored the movie to serve as a Cloverfield sequel once Insurge closed and the studio was otherwise going to shelve Valencia. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that Abrams had any hands-on involvement with Valencia's production. In fact, it seems incredibly unlikely considering how time consuming Star Wars was and the fact that he went straight from directing Star Trek into Star Wars. So it gets even more unlikely when you consider that the only creative tie to Cloverfield would've had no time for meaningful involvement during Valencia's production.

 

[Heretic]

Any movie that Bad Robot produces, JJ Abrams is a producer of. JJ Abrams was the producer of Morning Glory. That doesn't mean he was involved. Most producer gigs are no-show. I am not saying he only became involved when Insurge shut down. I am saying he only doctored the movie to serve as a Cloverfield sequel once Insurge closed and the studio was otherwise going to shelve Valencia. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that Abrams had any hands-on involvement with Valencia's production. In fact, it seems incredibly unlikely considering how time consuming Star Wars was and the fact that he went straight from directing Star Trek into Star Wars. So it gets even more unlikely when you consider that the only creative tie to Cloverfield would've had no time for meaningful involvement during Valencia's production.

So...JJ didn't have time to be involved...and because JJ wasn't involved it can't be a Cloverfield sequel...but then JJ got involved somehow, which he did not have time to do...so now it's a Cloverfield sequel????

From what anyone can tell, JJ's involvement in the finished product is as a producer...and he was a producer on Valencia. The rest you are inventing in your head because you actually expected them to just make the same movie over again.

 

[Broseph44]

Please don't assume to know my intent.

I am simply making conversation as I find this process behind this film's production fascinating. My apologies for not foaming at the mouth screaming "zomg!!!! JJJ HAS DONE IT AGAIN!"

Nowhere did I say you had to foam at the mouth. You just seem extremely irked about all this. Which is what I said before. If you're irked that's fine you can say it, that's all my post said. Don't have to turn around on me acting like I said you must like it or die or something.

 

[Matt]

So...JJ didn't have time to be involved...and because JJ wasn't involved it can't be a Cloverfield sequel...but then JJ got involved somehow, which he did not have time to do...so now it's a Cloverfield sequel????

From what anyone can tell, JJ's involvement in the finished product is as a producer...and he was a producer on Valencia. The rest you are inventing in your head because you actually expected them to just make the same movie over again.

By the time he got involved, Star Wars would've been well into post-production/pre-release marketing.

Seriously, you're nuts man. Basically every insider is describing the exact scenario I've described, yet you have this bizarre need to convince yourself that this isn't a movie that is getting a new coat of paint, after the fact, but rather that Abrams was secretly producing a Cloverfield sequel that no one knew about, with none of the original creative team (that alone is incredibly inconsistent with Abrams M.O.), despite having no time to do so. Further, you seem to think that he has gone to such excessive lengths so as to create alternative cuts of this movie to be test screened, all for the sake of throwing people off of the scent that this was a sequel (even though NO ONE in Hollywood has put those pieces together)?

Occam's razor...look it up, buddy. Peace.

 

[Matt]

Nowhere did I say you had to foam at the mouth. You just seem extremely irked about all this. Which is what I said before. If you're irked that's fine you can say it, that's all my post said. Don't have to turn around on me acting like I said you must like it or die or something.

I'm not irked at all. I am simply having a discussion. Will I be irked if this turns out to be an anthology with basically no connection to the original, save a few lines of dialogue here and there? Of course. I think any fan of the original would be irked by such a bait and switch. But no, I am not irked. Just fascinated by people's need to convince themselves that this is some brilliant JJ Abrams marketing ploy rather than the post-production touch up that everything seems to indicate is the case. Even more fascinated by the logical extremities and hole filled narratives people are adopting to support their belief that Abrams was secretly making this movie the whole time.

 

[Broseph44]

I'm not irked at all. I am simply having a discussion. Will I be irked if this turns out to be an anthology with basically no connection to the original, save a few lines of dialogue here and there? Of course. I think any fan of the original would be irked by such a bait and switch. But no, I am not irked. Just fascinated by people's need to convince themselves that this is some brilliant JJ Abrams marketing ploy rather than the post-production touch up that every seems to indicate is the case. Even more fascinated by the logical extremities and hole filled narratives people are adopting to support their belief that Abrams was secretly making this movie the whole time.

I mean I would be irked if that ends up happening too obviously. But we don't know that yet and won't until we see the film basically. Then from there we go. That's my thoughts on it all haha.

 

[Heretic]

By the time he got involved, Star Wars would've been well into post-production/pre-release marketing.

Seriously, you're nuts man. Basically every insider is describing the exact scenario I've described, yet you have this bizarre need to convince yourself that this isn't a movie that is getting a new coat of paint, after the fact, but rather that Abrams was secretly producing a Cloverfield sequel that no one knew about, with none of the original creative team (that alone is incredibly inconsistent with Abrams M.O.), despite having no time to do so. Further, you seem to think that he has gone to such excessive lengths so as to create alternative cuts of this movie to be test screened, all for the sake of throwing people off of the scent that this was a sequel (even though NO ONE in Hollywood has put those pieces together)?

Occam's razor...look it up, buddy. Peace.

It is not at all odd for a movie to get some changes after test screenings.
I don't know of any "insiders" who have made those claims. I've seen internet posts. Maybe I'm missing some confirmed insider reports.

Also...exactly what are you suggesting that JJ Abrams did on this finished film that went above and beyond his producer role?

 

[Heretic]

Also...I don't care if it's a movie that is getting a new coat of paint. Lots of ideas are adjusted to fit into other concepts. Don't care at all.

 

[Broseph44]

Also...I don't care if it's a movie that is getting a new coat of paint. Lots of ideas are adjusted to fit into other concepts. Don't care at all.

Same

 

[4thWallBreaker]

Also...I don't care if it's a movie that is getting a new coat of paint. Lots of ideas are adjusted to fit into other concepts. Don't care at all.

Yea, it's happened in video games. Super Mario Bros. 2 was initially an Arabic folklore based game, but then they swapped out the protagonist for 4 playable Mario characters. Same goes for Silent Hill 4: The Room supposed to have been some other concept, tweaked, and then slapped with "Silent Hill" as the title. Both of those games I know for a fact are fans' favorites in those series.

 

[Matt]

Also...I don't care if it's a movie that is getting a new coat of paint. Lots of ideas are adjusted to fit into other concepts. Don't care at all.

You seem awfully defensive for someone who doesn't care.

 

[Heretic]

I'm defensive because I freaking love the trailer! Whether it started as a sequel or not...and since this is JJ Abrams, I am willing to accept that he went to great lengths to keep a secret...I am excited about seeing a sequel to a movie I didn't even like.

 

[The Chris]

Also...I don't care if it's a movie that is getting a new coat of paint. Lots of ideas are adjusted to fit into other concepts. Don't care at all.

Agreed. All the Die Hards were originally written as something else for example, except one (the worst one at that)

 

[kedrell]

Is Matt Reeves directing this one as well? I loved the first one and it's 1 of only 2 found footage movies ever(the other being Chronicle) that I don't despise. Most of that I chalked up to Reeves direction on the first one. If he's back(and I don't see how with him being tied up over with the Apes franchise) then I'll definitely see this since with Cloverfield, Let Me In and DotPotA he made 3 films in a row that I love and I'm becoming a big fan of him(far more than JJ in fact who I consider to be a bit over-rated). If not then it's more of a toss up. I did like the teaser though. Very unique just like the original movie's 1st trailer. I just hope the film lives up to the curiosity this has engendered. At least it looks like it's not a found footage movie so that it in it's favor and I love John Goodman in just about anything. So we'll see.

 

[TheVileOne]

Is Matt Reeves directing this one as well? I loved the first one and it's 1 of only 2 found footage movies ever(the other being Chronicle) that I don't despise. Most of that I chalked up to Reeves direction on the first one. If he's back(and I don't see how with him being tied up over with the Apes franchise) then I'll definitely see this. If not then it's more of a toss up. I did like the teaser though. Very unique just like the original movie's 1st trailer. I just hope the film lives up to the curiosity this has engendered. At least it looks like it's not a found footage movie so that it in it's favor and I love John Goodman in just about anything. So we'll see.

No, he's on the next Planet of the Apes prequel sequel.

Dan Trachtenberg directed this movie. This is his feature length debut.

 

[kedrell]

Ok, my curiosity persists. I'd say there's a 85% chance I see this movie in theaters. As long as the reviews aren't abysmal.

 

[chaseter]

So let me get this straight. Studio A shoots a low budget bunker movie and the movie gets shelved. Bad Robot comes in and adds some scenes, calls it a Cloverfield movie and rabid fans get excited because TEH CLOVERFIELD!?

Sounds like a great movie.

 

[Heretic]

So let me get this straight. Studio A shoots a low budget bunker movie and the movie gets shelved. Bad Robot comes in and adds some scenes, calls it a Cloverfield movie and rabid fans get excited because TEH CLOVERFIELD!?

Sounds like a great movie.

Bad Robot was involved from the beginning.

 

[4thWallBreaker]

Everyone is such a downer.

I think it'll be worth seeing. Like water-cooler talk. Not just "neat" and forgotten. Cloverfield had that effect. Someone said it was quasi-successful. I'm not sure they understand the prefix quasi-. Anyways, it'll be good. I feel it in my bones.

 

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Y'all need to relax, cool down, and get a drink.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I mean if this movie really does have almost no connection to the first Cloverfield we could end up seeing one of the biggest backlashes to a movie.

It's still early but unless they shift the marketing most people really seem to be under the impression this is a Cloverfield sequel.

 

[Broseph44]

Revisiting Cloverfield right now. They're at the part where they're at Beth's apartment. Always have loved this movie, been a short while since I've seen it. But always nice to revisit it after a while. Brings back some of that experience I had in the theater in a way.

 

[Galactus10]

*foaming at the mouth screaming*

zomg!!!! JJ has DONE IT AGAIN!

 

[Broseph44]

*foaming at the mouth screaming*

zomg!!!! JJ has DONE IT AGAIN!

Don't let Matt see you doing that! Be careful man come on.

 

[Sithborg]

I love how people use JJ Abrams being untrustworthy to justify their theories and beliefs.