10 People Marvel Studios Really Ticked Off

I think Joss Whedon was just tired. In spite of his seeming bitterness, he also filled his comments with a lot of "I understand why they did that" type statements.
 
Don't think that either Marvel Studios or Marvel fans would be losing any sleep over Terrence Howard, Edward Norton and Avi Arad.


As for Whedon, he may not direct another Marvel movie anytime soon but he is not that upset, after-all his family is still involved with the production of AoS, and he is still in Disney's good books.

But I might add Louis Leterrier in that list. (And, maybe... Idris Elba ?) ;)
 
Don't think that either Marvel Studios or Marvel fans would be losing any sleep over Terrence Howard, Edward Norton and Avi Arad.


As for Whedon, he may not direct another Marvel movie anytime soon but he is not that upset, after-all his family is still involved with the production of AoS, and he is still in Disney's good books.

But I might add Louis Leterrier in that list. (And, maybe... Idris Elba ?) ;)

You sure about Louis? I never heard him say anything negative as far as I can remember.
 
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You sure about Louis? I never heard him say anything negative as far as I can remember.

He was upset at WB over the 3D issue on Clash of Titans, he also gave an interview about the problems he had with Marvel Studios while making TIH (can't find that exact interview) and he was angry at that time, now his reactions have been toned down but you can tell that not everything is fine.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/28/louis-leterrier-now-you-see-me_n_3333311.html
 
Avi's still ******** over losing Spidey and not getting that Aunt May and Venom movie? :p
 
I love the fact that Fiege specifically asked that Arad not be involved in the new upcoming Spider-man reboot. That's a great sign.

He was upset at WB over the 3D issue on Clash of Titans, he also gave an interview about the problems he had with Marvel Studios while making TIH (can't find that exact interview) and he was angry at that time, now his reactions have been toned down but you can tell that not everything is fine.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/28/louis-leterrier-now-you-see-me_n_3333311.html

Interesting, I never knew any of that.
 
A lot of the people on the list seem more frustrated than bitter. Whedon, Elba, Wright for starters.

There's a big difference between frustration and vehemence. Terrence Howard, for example, seems quite bitter.
 
10. Alan Taylor - I can understand Taylor's annoyance.

9. Edward Norton - Norton is a mixed bag, although I do think he's the better man to play Banner. His tiff during post production did hurt the film's box office IMO.

8. Hugo Weaving - Meh, this could go either way.

7. Avi Arad - This one isn't even worth speaking on. We know what this guy has done with Spider-man and he admits his screw up with handling Marvels rights in general. So in Arad's case most would pretty say goodbye and good riddance.

6. Mickey Rourke - His beef is legit. His character was a mess in IM2.

5. Patty Jenkins - This and Alan Taylor's issues with Thor 2 sound par. Hopefully Thor3 won't share the same result.

4. Terrence Howard - They screwed him. No doubt about it. Here's another instance where I think the replacement wasn't better for a character than the original but since they weren't terrible either what can you do...?

3. Natalie Portman - Meh, the lack of a "damsel in distress" would only benefit Thor 3 as far as I'm concerned. Maybe Jenkins directing the sequel would've been more beneficial. But Portman wasn't all that great in the first Thor either.

2. Edgar Wright - This is another one that could go either way. The film isn't out yet nor do any of us really know what happen behind the scenes. So its not like we can pick a side. It's just an unfortunate situation that happens in Hollywood more times than not.

1. Joss Whedon - As other's have stated, making mega box office hits are no easy task. It's more likely that the man is just tired. As far as his relationship with Marvel Studios it can't be worse than FOX considering what they did to Firefly and Dollhouse. (Which were both great shows btw)
 
A lot of the people on the list seem more frustrated than bitter. Whedon, Elba, Wright for starters.

There's a big difference between frustration and vehemence. Terrence Howard, for example, seems quite bitter.

No, Terrence isn't bitter. You don't agree to pay someone a certain amount & then ask to significantly lower it when the time comes to pay up. How would you feel if your job suddenly cut your paycheck in half even though you've agreed to work for a certain amount? You'd be vocal about it too because it's wrong.

Nobody cares about Arad, though.

And I agree about Howard being better...all I kept thinking during IM2, IM3 & AoU was "how great would it have been if Howard didn't get screwed & was doing those scenes?"
 
Pretty sure that info on Howard is wrong. From what I remember, Howard wanted much higher salary than he got for the first Iron Man movie, and Marvel didn't want to pay him any more than they'd agreed - him only getting paid 'significantly less' than what he wanted, not what was agreed.
 
And I agree about Howard being better...all I kept thinking during IM2, IM3 & AoU was "how great would it have been if Howard didn't get screwed & was doing those scenes?"

I actually prefer Don Cheadle in the part: Howard's a very good actor, just miscast for the part of Rhodey, IMO.
 
Pretty sure that info on Howard is wrong. From what I remember, Howard wanted much higher salary than he got for the first Iron Man movie, and Marvel didn't want to pay him any more than they'd agreed - him only getting paid 'significantly less' than what he wanted, not what was agreed.

Also, Marvel didn't force Whedon to put in the cave scenes. They wanted him to take it out compeltely, and Whedon was forced to choose between the farm and Thor's subplot. In the end they left it at the bare minimum because otherwise it wouldn't have been understandable.
 
Was Elba pissed off? People really overblew that controversy. All he really said was that he didn't have a good time filming Thor 2, which was a pretty crappy movie.

It's a shame about Mickey Rourke though because it sounds like he genuinely wanted to do interesting things with the character and Marvel just wanted a cartoonish supervillain. It could have gone a long way to sate people complaining about how Marvel's villains suck.
 
My take:

Alan Taylor - I get why he's upset. I will say this guy has been the classiest on how he responded to the media when this stuff was brought up. I give him full credit for that. On the downside, while I liked the look of Thor 2 better, Branagh did a better job directing the actors.

Ed Norton - Ed Norton the only one of the MCU actors to sign a one picture deal, and he didn't want to do TIH in the first place, he initially turned down the role. I could care less about his beef, because when you sign a one picture deal, you're not interested in the future of the character.

Hugo Weaving - Not sure about this one. I'd heard he hates big budget movies, He refused to do another Transformers as well. Other than working on the Wachowski's on Cloud Atlas, (for understandable reasons, they turned him into a superstar) he has never appeared in another big budget film since CA:TFA.

Avi Arad - I don't want to be too hard on this guy. He did pull Marvel out from the pit of bankruptcy, and made them profitable. However the guy was the CEO of a toy company and knew nothing about the movie industry. He far more interfered with the Marvel films than Feige has. It was Avi's fault that Terrance Howard was hired in the first place, and didn't help matters when Terrance threw a hissy fit when he didn't get a raise. He signed some horrible deals with the other studios. Yes they were trying to get themselves financially solvent, but I think they had more bargaining power to make better deals, even if Marvel Studios never had been created.

Mikey Rourke - I get his beef. No one likes to see their shots on the cutting room floor. However the alternate ending where he kidnaps Pepper was terrible, so I hope there was more to it than that. The guy is a tremendous actor and yet a total nut job. This is the guy who quit acting to take up a failed boxing career that messed up his face and resulted in numerous plastic surgeries that make him look like Frankenstein's monster. The reality is he's been receiving less and less work, so whatever his beef was for his public lambasting wasn't very smart for his career.

Patty Jenkins - cry me a river. This is a business. You were hired to direct a comic book film. You should know going in that no one is going to give you total creative control. No harm no foul. No one cares that she was fired. She's a great director, but she shouldn't have taken the job.

Terrance Howard - the architecht of his own demise. I bet Don Cheadle got paid over a million dollars for a few days on set for Age of Ultron. That could have been Terrance Howard. Sorry buddy but no one went to see Iron Man because of you, and I thought you did a great job in that film. You should have known how uncomfortable it was the fact that Favreau didn't want you, but was forced to take you because of Avi Arad.

Natalie Portman - this one makes me the most sad. I know alot of people have bad reactions to Jane, but I like her character. However as I said with Jenkens, this is a buisness, and Portman knows that too. I get her loyalty and upset that she was denied the opportunity to work with a friend. However I call BS on the article about her not wanting to appear in AoU. There is no evidence that they wanted anyone other than Hayley Atwell, Idris Irba, and Tom Hiddleston to play cameos from the other films.

Edgar Wright - I dont' have a side on this one, it's just sad that it didn't work out. However Edgar should have been realistic when the MCU started taking shape that his work would have to fit into that world. Do I blame him? No, but I think the vitriol from some of his fans has been beyond stupid and it's unfair to take that out on Peyton Reed.

Joss Whedon - probably the most overblown of all the situations. Sure there were frustrations, but in going back and listening to his interviews, most of what he said was taken out of context. In the end he said "this is the cut that I wanted". Pretty much end of story for me.
 
Pretty sure that info on Howard is wrong. From what I remember, Howard wanted much higher salary than he got for the first Iron Man movie, and Marvel didn't want to pay him any more than they'd agreed - him only getting paid 'significantly less' than what he wanted, not what was agreed.

Yes the article is facutally wrong, which puts alot of it into question. Terrance was upset because he wasn't offered a raise where RDJ and Paltrow were offered huge raises. Again it's important to note that Favreau never wanted him, he wanted Cheadle, but because of Avi Arad, they had to take Howard.
 
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Hugo Weaving - Not sure about this one. I'd heard he hates big budget movies, He refused to do another Transformers as well. Other than working on the Wachowski's on Cloud Atlas, (for understandable reasons, they turned him into a superstar) he has never appeared in another big budget film since CA:TFA.

He was in The Hobbit films.
 
Forgot about those. I think that was due to his close relationship to Peter Jackson, and he was returning to a role. In fact it was Weaving that told Jacson on his last day of filming Lord of the Rings "see you when you film the Hobbit". This isn't all that dissimilar to him filming cloud Atlas.

I know he's had specific things he's said about hating to do big budget movies. Contractually if they bring back the character he has to do it. But Marvel hasn't budged.
 
Alan Taylor and. Patty Jenkins I can understand their frustration with Marvel not letting them have full creative control over the Thor sequel.

Edward Norton I feel like he wouldn't fit in quite as well a Ruffalo with the rest of the Avengers. And Norton tends to have a little bit of an ego that I feel would've messed up the chemistry with the other actors.

Hugo Weaving I never really thought he was anything too special in his portrayal of Red Skull, and from what I know he just doesn't really have any interest in working on cgi heavy movies, much like Mortenson and the LotR flicks.

Avi Arad I'm sure Marvel did all they could to piss him off intentionally, this guy is right up there with Rothman as people who shouldn't have any say in what happens in the movies. Seriously this guy sucks!

Mickey Rourke his character was poorly written and Rourke is the only person I can 100% agree with when he says Marvel screwed his character. But Rourke is also kind of a fulll of himself so no big loss to the MCU.


Terrence Howard asked for a needless pay raise, I'd have replaced him too if I was Marvel, prefer Don in the role anyways, hate Terrences nasally high pitched voice.

Natalie Portman much like Rourke I feel her talents were wasted in the 2 Thor flicks, but seeing as to how her scenes were my least liked in the Thor movies, I certainly wouldn't shed a tear if she didn't show up in the 3rd.

Edgar Wright words can not express how much I LOVE everything this guy has done, I was really looking forward to his Ant-Man movie, but he took far too long to get started on it, I can understand Marvels lack of patience, especially considering they changed a couple things around in the MCU to accommodate him, Wright is probably better off doing his own thing.

Joss Whedon I feel he just exhausted himself with the MCU and just needs a break to work on smaller projects, but I've a feeling he'll direct another MCU picture sometime in the future.
 
Yes the article is facutally wrong, which puts alot of it into question. Terrance was upset because he wasn't offered a raise where RDJ and Paltrow were offered huge raises. Again it's important to note that Favreau never wanted him, he wanted Cheadle, but because of Avi Arad, they had to take Howard.

If I remember Howard was paid a good bit more than anyone else for the first film. I believe that he was the first name to sign for the film so he got a better deal, then the studio used him signing to get other actors to be more open to signing on.
 
With Norton I don't think it was a big surprise they didn't bring him back, he is an actor that tends to want to be involved in everything, from the script right through to the editing, and when you are trying to make a big ensemble film if you let one actor start to do that sort of thing then all the others will want the same. And that will just lead to a mess.

Again with with Wright it wasn't a massive surprise the guy had been attached to the film for over 10 years, and in that time a lot has changed. A CBM from 2003 is a very different animal to one made today. When he started there was no MCU to have to fit his script into, and his films tend to have their own style that might not blend well without some compromises having to be made.
 

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