12 killed in Colorado shooting at Dark Knight Rises premiere - Part 1

[Rodrigo90]

This has nothing to do with the Joker. There have been horrible serial killers and terrorists before the Joker was ever created, and there will be more killers and terrorists in the future.

This is not new.

Yes. But we can't pretend the Joker has nothing to do with it, in some way.

We had the guy in Belgium who murdered a bunch of kids in a nursery.

The soldier who had PTSD, he went around causing havoc just so the police would kill him.

The schoolboy in the UK who tried to burn his school down.

Now this guy.

All 4 of them using the Joker as their inspiration to go out and cause havoc.
But they were obviously nutjobs before Heath's Joker appeared. Fanatics they were.

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

I wouldn't call what he did efficient and thank God for that. I told my wife it's a miracle that he fired over 100 rounds and no more died than did. But What if he simply got in his car and started running down pedestrians all over town? What do we ban then?

Its definitely efficient. The guy kiled 12 and hit 71 and its not like he was there for hours doing it. His weapons allowed him to get those numbers. This is the problem with fire weapons in the general population. All it takes is a second to pull a trigger and you can kill at least one. The guy shows up with less ammunition, less guns, hell or even simply a knife and this doesnt happen to this degree. Not to mention that the actual crowd would have taken him on in that case. You will never be able to completely stop fire arms from being obtained by a person, but you can make it extremely difficult so that the extent of his actions is greatly reduced. I mean this is Colorado and columbine did happen years before.

It simply isnt a valid analogy. Firearms are immediate killing devices that can be easily carried and hidden on a pocket or in a trunk. You cant simply trust a seemingly average person like a James Holmes to keep his marbles intact for his entire life to allow him to LEGALLY obtain all the weapons and ammo he had to kill that many people. Its like the state has been the official supplier of the mass killings in teh past 20 years in Colorado. Sounds creepy just thinking about it. They dropped the ball.

 

[teewee1432]

Warner Bros. will not report 'The Dark Knight Rises' box office results this weekend 'out of respect for the victims'

by Keith Staskiewicz
Tags: The Dark Knight Rises, Warner Bros.

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Following the tragic shooting in Colorado, Warner Bros. has issued a statement that the studio does not intend to report opening weekend box office numbers for The Dark Knight Rises.
“Out of respect for the victims and their families,” the statement reads, “Warner Bros. Pictures will not be reporting box office numbers for The Dark Knight Rises throughout the weekend. Box office numbers will be released on Monday.”
The shooter, James Holmes, opened fire in an Aurora, CO theater during a midnight screening of the film, leaving 12 dead and dozens wounded. Director Christopher Nolan released his own statement today, calling the incident “unbearably savage.” While Warner Bros. will not be announcing the weekend’s figures, other studios will also have them, so it’s doubtful they will remain completely unknown until Monday.

 

[zanos]

Which was also terribly disrespectful.



I hate that insanity is considered a defense to avoid the death penalty. If someone is dangerously insane, that sounds like more of a reason to have them put down.

The cost of simply killing him will cost tens of millions of dollars. It's vastly cheaper just to lock him up for life. Not even a million I think.

 

[Marx]

The tragedy at the Colorado cinema is absolutely horrific. I had thought for years how easy it would be for someone to pull something like this (call me paranoid) but hoped it would never happen. The theater is the one place people can go to truly escape from life and forget about their problems for a little while. There doesn't seem to be any place that is truly safe anymore after this shooting. People shoot up schools, resturants, government buildings, homes, and now movie theaters.

Yesterday was my brother's birthday and I bought opening night TDKR tickets for him, my mom, and myself for his birthday present weeks ago. (Creepily enough, our tickets were for Auditorium 9 at our local Regal theater. The theater pulled the movie from Auditorium 9 and moved it to a different auditorium.) The theater that we went to is a very popular theater and it is always packed on a friday and saturday night. Last night, it was like a ghost town. The whole mood was very somber. My mom and I (without knowing at the time) were both watching every single person that came into the theater and that got up during the movie. I've never felt like that in a theater.

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

he cost of simply killing him will cost tens of millions of dollars. It's vastly cheaper just to lock him up for life. Not even a million I think.

Really? i think incarceration would cost the state more. Feeding him,healthcare and whatever else.

 

[Tangled Web]

I know the media is interested in seeing if the Batman films influenced this killer but has anyone brought up the possibility that this guy has seen an Uwe Boll film called "Rampage"?

It's a disgusting film where the protagonist goes around shooting people indiscriminately. I won't link to it but the cover of the film is hauntingly similiar to what we know about the shooter.

I know everyone is responsible for their own actions but if film is going to be brought into this perhaps Batman movies aren't what we should be looking at.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I think it would be lovely if Christian Bale could do this for the kids...

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think the killer said something about the Joker, which is why the Batman films are being cited for this.

But, like I said on this issue before, it's not the fault of the filmmakers that a psycho went out and shot people. This guy is a disgusting person, and we shouldn't overreact to one idiot.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think it would be lovely if Christian Bale could do this for the kids...

This has been discussed on here. I think that is a TERRIBLE idea. Last thing those kids need to be reminded of is Batman.

 

[Matt]

It is such an insanely stupid idea. As I said when this first came up, maybe when he finishes with that, he and Sean Penn can team up, get a boatful of photographers together and go try to "save," some hurricane survivors (dressed as Batman, of course).

 

[Marx]

I think the killer said something about the Joker, which is why the Batman films are being cited for this.

But, like I said on this issue before, it's not the fault of the filmmakers that a psycho went out and shot people. This guy is a disgusting person, and we shouldn't overreact to one idiot.

I agree.

 

[terry78]

I don't know if those kids are going to forever associate Batman with this incident, but if they're that young, they might. And that pisses me off even more.

 

[runawayboulder]

They won't. There will be more films and comics in the years to come all while this lunatic will be rotting in prison and forgotten about.

 

[StrainedEyes]

I know the media is interested in seeing if the Batman films influenced this killer but has anyone brought up the possibility that this guy has seen an Uwe Boll film called "Rampage"?

It's a disgusting film where the protagonist goes around shooting people indiscriminately. I won't link to it but the cover of the film is hauntingly similiar to what we know about the shooter.

I know everyone is responsible for their own actions but if film is going to be brought into this perhaps Batman movies aren't what we should be looking at.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who has seen a Uwe Boll film in the last 5 years.

 

[jrd550]

A terrible tragedy that happened to probably the best group of fans in the world - midnight attendees are the most sweet, genuine fans out there.

People are trying to blame films, characters and anything but the real issue - nobody needs to be able to buy military grade weapons. Period.

 

[StrainedEyes]

There has to be a way to flag someone who is buying 3000 rounds of multiple types of ammunition in a short period of time.

 

[Spade]

Christian Bale is a movie actor. Batman is a fictional vigilante. Real people were injured and died here. Sometimes, the best way to try and help is not to.

The media's become obnoxious about this case. Now ABC claims investigators will waste time reading The Dark Knight Returns for possible motive. Reporters are still supposed to be mildly educated, right?

 

[SuperFerret]

If their insanity is something that is entirely out of their control (not that I'm saying that is the case in this instance) then surely you see the problem in sentencing someone to death for actions committed under the influence of said insanity?

I don't see the problem. It's sad that it's "not his fault", but he's still a danger and needs to be eliminated.

And don't call me Shirley.

The cost of simply killing him will cost tens of millions of dollars. It's vastly cheaper just to lock him up for life. Not even a million I think.

Really? i think incarceration would cost the state more. Feeding him,healthcare and whatever else.

That's the way the system is set up now. Ideally, an execution wouldn't cost more than a bullet, but there's still this reluctance to execute people, so ironically, it is cheaper to incarcerate.

 

[Spade]

Lethal injections cost way more than a bullet, and we all know that would be the only method of execution considered, anyways.

 

[SuperFerret]

Ironic though that shooting an animal is considered humane euthanasia.

 

[Spuzz]

The article at this link contins a staggering amount of what most in the business refer to as BULL***. Read with caution. It will probably make you lose even more hope in humanity than the shooting already has made you lose.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html

Conspiracy theories just for the sake of conspiracy theories is evil and trivializes these people's deaths.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I think the killer said something about the Joker, which is why the Batman films are being cited for this.

But, like I said on this issue before, it's not the fault of the filmmakers that a psycho went out and shot people. This guy is a disgusting person, and we shouldn't overreact to one idiot.

The censorship argument is so weak.

over-zealous censorship advocate: "Hey a 2 or 3 people who went on shooting sprees cited The Joker"

reasonable person: "There are hundreds of millions of people who watched TDK and never hurt a soul"

over-zealous censorship advocate: "......."

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Lethal injections cost way more than a bullet, and we all know that would be the only method of execution considered, anyways.

PThe truly ironic thing is that bullets (at least fired at the brain stem) are probably more humane than a million dollar chemical cocktail pumped into you. They apparently collapse your lungs and give the feeling of suffocation. The dying process also takes a lot longer too.

 

[Tangled Web]

The article at this link contins a staggering amount of what most in the business refer to as BULL***. Read with caution. It will probably make you lose even more hope in humanity than the shooting already has made you lose.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html

Conspiracy theories just for the sake of conspiracy theories is evil and trivializes these people's deaths.

Yeah, I definitely saw quite a few things of that nature on my fb newsfeed yesterday.

Then I banned as needed.