12 killed in Colorado shooting at Dark Knight Rises premiere - Part 2

[Spider-Who?]

The only people who build up a large arsenal of guns are insane. It's not the guns. It's a people problem. It's time like this I wish we could just shoot crazy sickos like this guy. I can't believe he's gonna go through months and months of trials for no good reason. Makes me really upset. Guy should be dead for killing these 12 people and trying to kill even more

I agree with everything you said save the first sentence. I find that to be an offensive, blanket statement. Plenty of people acquire large amounts of fire arms and are perfectly sane, upstanding citizens. 99.99% of serious gun collectors would fall into that category. What do you define as a "large arsenal"? 5 guns? 10? 20? My grandfather had about 20 different guns if not more, and made his own ammo. He was a collector and gun smith who equally enjoyed his hobby and understood and respected the levity of it. He was also perfectly sane and went to his grave without so much as a parking ticket.

 

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Now this sounds a little ridiculous to me since according to the article, its just a brief scene & in either case, it's a little too late to do anything about it. Summit wanted to remove this one scene in the new Step Up movie where the dancers go in wearing gas masks and vests at a party:

Summit Entertainment’s STEP UP REVOLUTION is an uplifting film that celebrates the redemptive power of dance. There is a brief scene in the film in which a troop of dancers enter a room wearing gas masks as props and the dancers immediately go into a choreographed routine. Because of last week’s tragic events in Colorado, Summit immediately removed television advertising that briefly showcased that scene from the film. The scene also briefly appeared in a trailer released three months ago that the studio is no longer actively servicing. Having taken these steps, Summit will open this inspirational, nonviolent film in theatres nationwide this weekend as originally edited.

They had a meeting discussing whether to cut the scene or not, and they decided to leave it as is.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/07/sum...aurora-offensive-scene-in-step-up-revolution/

 

[Marvolo]

Very possible....this article was just on the weapons so it was strange that it wasn't mentioned in it....so I figure that wasn't the case.

I really wish in these interviews people would check their facts rather than throwing around terms that scare people unfamiliar with guns and ammo. Its fear mongering just like after 9/11. They had people seeing terrorists in their morning cereal.

 

[Spade]

Now this sounds a little ridiculous to me since according to the article, its just a brief scene & in either case, it's a little too late to do anything about it. Summit wanted to remove this one scene in the new Step Up movie where the dancers go in wearing gas masks and vests at a party:

Nobody wants bad press. It's that simple.

 

[Marvolo]

Nobody wants bad press. It's that simple.

It doesnt even warrant bad press. The scene was written and filmed long before the shooting. They cant be held responsible for lacking precognition.

 

[Kelly]

I really wish in these interviews people would check their facts rather than throwing around terms that scare people unfamiliar with guns and ammo. Its fear mongering just like after 9/11. They had people seeing terrorists in their morning cereal.

This was a good article talking about what he had...

http://articles.cnn.com/2012-07-20/...-shooting-weapons_1_ammunition-theater-rounds

 

[danoyse]

Yeah, because that's happened before. Oh, wait that's right. It hasn't. Because like Bill Maher said, whenever something like this happens, it's always "too soon" to talk about gun control, and then once time passes, no one in Washington cares anymore.

Jon Stewart did a segment on Monday showing all of the "too soon!" comments being made on the cable news networks this weekend in regard to gun control, and how they nearly all changed the subject to why theaters should ban costumes from screenings. You know, the real problem.

 

[Marvolo]

Jon Stewart did a segment on Monday showing all of the "too soon!" comments being made on the cable news networks this weekend in regard to gun control, and how they nearly all changed the subject to why theaters should ban costumes from screenings. You know, the real problem.

Id hate to see costumes banned but some places wont allow hoodies or caps because they hide your face. This is why we cant have nice things. People manipulate and extort the rules ruining it for everyone.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

The only people who build up a large arsenal of guns are insane. It's not the guns. It's a people problem. It's time like this I wish we could just shoot crazy sickos like this guy. I can't believe he's gonna go through months and months of trials for no good reason. Makes me really upset. Guy should be dead for killing these 12 people and trying to kill even more

False. Totally false.

 

[terry78]

False. Totally false.

What valid reason do you have for doing it aside from some collection or hunting?

 

[Darthphere]

Id hate to see costumes banned but some places wont allow hoodies or caps because they hide your face. This is why we cant have nice things. People manipulate and extort the rules ruining it for everyone.

Like wearing sunglasses in a bank.

 

[Tanin]

What valid reason do you have for doing it aside from some collection or hunting?

I know people who do it just because they have the right to do so.

My father has several kinds of guns. A few for self defense, some are for skeet shooting, others for hunting different game... as some game require different guns to take down properly. He also has some just as vintage to show off.

Of all the things I would call my father... insane is not one of them.

 

[TheOnlyOmega]

To the people saying it would be hard to obtain guns illegally, if I wanted to, I could download a program that I will not name that would allow me access to a website I will not name, where then on that website, I could buy a pound of weed, a kilo of coke, and a sheet of acid. There is a very seedy underbelly to the internet where illegal gun sales would thrive should gun control be brought on.

 

[Darkness Falls]

Guy should be dead for killing these 12 people and trying to kill even more

THIS

 

[Marvolo]

What valid reason do you have for doing it aside from some collection or hunting?

Hunting and collecting is the most prominant reason. Over my lifetime i hope to own and shoot many different guns. Not out of a desire to harm but because i appreciate fine craftsmanship. Im the same with knives.I dont want or intend to harm anyone. Every male in my family gets a knife for their 18th birthday and carry one for the remainder of their lives. Its a part of my heritage. Guns carry the same respect in most of my family. For me not much is better than a well crafted knife or firearm.

And ive found that when im stressed giving my gun a good cleaning relieves stress. Its a methodical process that allows me take my mind off the crap of the day and focus on a singular task.

 

[8wid]

I believe only in capital punishment for large scale events such as war crimes, large scale and planned out massacres, terrorist attacks etc. I think my death county would probably be more like fifty. The man from Norway would surely be a candidate. This guy however may get off for reason of insanity depending on his mental state at the time. He was a PHD student I can't necessarily imagine the reason this would have happened.

 

[The Squirrel]

Concealed Weapons Save Lives

"With a single exception, every multiple-victim public shooting in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed since at least 1950 has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry their own firearms."

"Nor have I found a single example on record of a multiple-victim public shooting in which a permit holder accidentally shot a bystander."

 

[Paroxysm]

To the people saying it would be hard to obtain guns illegally, if I wanted to, I could download a program that I will not name that would allow me access to a website I will not name, where then on that website, I could buy a pound of weed, a kilo of coke, and a sheet of acid.

Its terms of service bans the sale of “anything who’s purpose is to harm or defraud, such as stolen credit cards, assassinations, and weapons of mass destruction.” Look it up.

There is a very seedy underbelly to the internet where illegal gun sales would thrive should gun control be brought on.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

What valid reason do you have for doing it aside from some collection or hunting?

Well you just named 2 big, valid reasons right there.

Living in the south especially, I know a lot of people with a lot of guns, and none of them are crazy.

 

[Paroxysm]

Concealed Weapons Save Lives

Did the NRA pay for this? Is this NRA counter spin in action? I THINK SO!

 

[Darthphere]

Hunting is primarily a recreational thing now. If we can ban dodgeball from schools we can ban hunting.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Why should we ban hunting?

And why should dodgeball be banned in schools?

 

[Darthphere]

Why should we ban hunting?

And why should dodgeball be banned in schools?

Because it hurts kids feelings or whatever. Guns are ok though, lets go shoot some deer.

 

[Sawyer]

An Entertainment Weekly article just referred to this as the Dark Knight massacre.

Don't further shame the film and those involved with it by slapping it's name on the tragedy. Call it the movie theater massacre, call it the Aurora massacre, hell call it the "James Holmes was a psychotic little **** with way too much fire power" massacre. But let's leave the Dark Knight out of it. That kid wasn't the Joker.... he didn't even get the hair right.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

An Entertainment Weekly article just referred to this as the Dark Knight massacre.

Don't further shame the film and those involved with it by slapping it's name on the tragedy. Call it the movie theater massacre, call it the Aurora massacre, hell call it the "James Holmes was a psychotic little **** with way too much fire power" massacre. But let's leave the Dark Knight out of it. That kid wasn't the Joker.... he didn't even get the hair right.

Like it or not, that's going to be how a lot of people refer to it as.