12 killed in Colorado shooting at Dark Knight Rises premiere - Part 2

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They share the same parent company in Time Warner so that makes sense that this would be the case.

I'm really sick of hearing Batman Massacre and some news sites are still calling him the Joker.

I read now he is playing he has amnesia and doesn't know why he was in jail.
 
Actually there was comic book reform. Seduction of the Innocent and the comics code authority.

Come on man. Come on.:whatever:

Let me put it this way then because you want to be cute. No one in history has ever been killed by a comic book.
 
Come on man. Come on.:whatever:

Let me put it this way then because you want to be cute. No one in history has ever been killed by a comic book.

Forget it. It's like talking to a wall with people on here anymore. I forget that the comic book crowd knows everything.
 
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Not to sound like an ass, but I'm sure if his wife/mother/gf/child/sibling/father/friend was *KILLED* in the shooting, he would probably not be singing the "forgive with all my heart" tune.
 
Well it's impossible to know that, so why not just focus on the fact that he is forgiving him in what I call "this real life senario."
 
i'm not sure which is more disturbing...the fact he has a fanpage or the fact he has so many likes. :/
 
I'm really sick of hearing Batman Massacre and some news sites are still calling him the Joker.

I read now he is playing he has amnesia and doesn't know why he was in jail.

Damn straight. Some of the tabloids over here in the U.K. have been downright irresponsible wth their reporting of it all - seemingly looking for links that arent there. One paper basically said something along the lines of 'sat in the court room with his red hair and glum expression, Holmes looked every bit the double of Batman's arch-nemesis, the Joker'.

So, let me get this straight, the guy with the red hair and glum expression looks the spitting image of a character famours for having green hair and a smile? Where does this oh-so obvious and uncanny resemblance come from?
 
Damn straight. Some of the tabloids over here in the U.K. have been downright irresponsible wth their reporting of it all - seemingly looking for links that arent there. One paper basically said something along the lines of 'sat in the court room with his red hair and glum expression, Holmes looked every bit the double of Batman's arch-nemesis, the Joker'.

So, let me get this straight, the guy with the red hair and glum expression looks the spitting image of a character famours for having green hair and a smile? Where does this oh-so obvious and uncanny resemblance come from?


Got to love the media. I still think he looks like Scott Weiland from Stone Temple Pilots with that orange hair.

There was a news article I read off of Drudge that linked to a local news site down in Florida about a shooting outside of a movie theater after the people came out of the Dark Knight Rises. it was a domestic dispute in the parking lot or something stupid and a guy pulled a gun. Of course them coming out of seeing the Dark Knight was the whole reason for the altercation.
 
Not to sound like an ass, but I'm sure if his wife/mother/gf/child/sibling/father/friend was *KILLED* in the shooting, he would probably not be singing the "forgive with all my heart" tune.


I don't think so. These people do have to move forward and sometimes forgiveness helps that process. It's not like he's saying let the guy go either.

Wow. That takes a lot of compassion to forgive him. Yet the guy who wasn't shot is suing WB, the movie theater and Holmes' doctors.

I hope that he doesn't receive a single penny.
 
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But in this case, Batman was the location. It happened in a movie theater during a showing of a Batman movie, and while the movie and film makers deserve zero blame and responsibility, it seems as though that movie was intentionally selected.

If you want to call it the "Aurora" or "Movie theater" massacre, that's fine, but there is nothing wrong with calling it the "Batman" or "Dark Knight" massacre either.
Batman is not the location. On that night, Batman had 3000+ "locations." It is not useful at all. The movie was intentionally selected because it was going to be arguably one of the biggest movies of the year, and he knew that the midnight showings would be sold out. It'd been on the news for weeks. FYI nobody saw Avenger's record-breaking OW coming until the hours before with walkups.

The only association we know he made with the Batman series was something about Joker, and yeah, it's something Joker would have done, but it's not very specific. Any terrorist would fall under that umbrella.

I can't believe you think "there's nothing wrong" with calling it "the Batman shooting" as a comic book fan. It doesn't even matter if you're a DC or Marvel fan, but to agree with associating one of the oldest and most popular fictional characters EVER with a tragedy like this is ridiculous and a disservice to anyone who has been associated with Batman, INCLUDING the fans.

Someone reminded md of what Chris Rock said about gun control.

Chris Rock: "Everybody is talking about gun control. Got to control the guns. F***, that, I like guns. If you've got a gun, you don't need to work out! Cause, I ain't working out. I ain't jogging. No, I think we need some bullet control. I think every bullet should cost five thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars for a bullet. Know why? Cos if a bullet cost five thousand dollars, there'd be no more innocent by-standers. That'd be it. Some guy'd be shot you'd be all 'Damn, he must've done something, he's got fifty thousand dollars worth of bullets in his ass!' And people'd think before they shot someone 'Man I will blow your f***ing head off, if I could afford it. I'm gonna get me a second job, start saving up, and you a dead man. You'd better hope I don't get no bullets on lay-away!' And even if you get shot you wouldn't need to go to the emergency room. Whoever shot you'd take their bullet back. 'I believe you got my property?'"
:lmao: I can get behind that.
 
First and foremost, my heart and my prayers go out to everyone effected both directly and indirectly by this senseless tragedy.

That being said, I see all of this talk about gun control and I feel compelled to give my two cents.

First and foremost we need cannot allow fear of guns or the desire of owning guns to cloud our acceptance of reality. The reality of a tax for gun owners is that we are just handing the government more money to be misappropriated. Insurance on a gun? Again we are just letting someone have more money that we don't have.

In truth adding any monetary responsibility does only one thing, it gives less power to people and more power to money.

Any one of us can become a victim at anytime, why should only the wealthy person have the option of buying a gun to feel a bit more safe and secure? That's crud.

The reality is that anything can be used as a tool of pain and suffering. A door is meant for privacy and to keep the elements (heat, cold, rain, ext..) out, however I could easily put someone's head in the door jam and repeatedly bash them until their body expires. Shoelaces are meant to keep your shoes tight and on your feet, but if I was so inclined I could strangle the life from you with it. Man has the potential to manipulate the most peaceful thing into an killing tool.

My point is that everything can be used for good or evil yet we do not fear everything or tax everything just because of what it has the potential to be used for.

There is no way for us to be one hundred percent safe. Your house could fall on your head at any moment.

Background checks and mental evaluations are our best bet at gun "control" but even they are flawed.

An insane person is not born, they are molded from their life experiences. Sanity and no criminal records are things that can change overnight.

So where does that leave us? Get rid of guns?

No!!!. Even if it were possible to eradicate every gun on the planet, you can't stop me from understanding the principals of how a gun work, thereby giving me the potential to make my own.

My call would be background checks and psychology exams twice a year for all gun owners.

It's the best we can do.
 
Wow. That takes a lot of compassion to forgive him. Yet the guy who wasn't shot is suing WB, the movie theater and Holmes' doctors.

Weirdly enough - for all of how wondrous and amazing the U.S. can seem to me a lot of the time - there are two things which will forever perplex me. One is the apparent ease in which a person can buy a gun [and a ton of ammo] and the second is the ability to seemingly be able to sue just about anyone for anything.
 
I can't believe you think "there's nothing wrong" with calling it "the Batman shooting" as a comic book fan. It doesn't even matter if you're a DC or Marvel fan, but to agree with associating one of the oldest and most popular fictional characters EVER with a tragedy like this is ridiculous and a disservice to anyone who has been associated with Batman, INCLUDING the fans.


I agree. I don't care if my grandmother calls it the '"Batman shooting" but news outlets need to be more careful . The film doesn't deserve this as a legacy and the shooter shouldn't have the gratification of being linked to these characters.
 
Weirdly enough - for all of how wondrous and amazing the U.S. can seem to me a lot of the time - there are two things which will forever perplex me. One is the apparent ease in which a person can buy a gun [and a ton of ammo] and the second is the ability to seemingly be able to sue just about anyone for anything.


I agree with the suing thing. Even living here, I don't understand it.

As for the gun thing, it's not like we can walk into any Quickie Mart and walk out with an Uzi. :yay:
All of the guns I have bought, I fill out 3 pages of paperwork. The gunshop (seller) makes a call to do a background check on me. Once I pass the background check, I bought the gun. He takes the paperwork and I believe the ATF gets the forms along with the serial number of the gun I bought.
 
First and foremost, my heart and my prayers go out to everyone effected both directly and indirectly by this senseless tragedy.

That being said, I see all of this talk about gun control and I feel compelled to give my two cents.

First and foremost we need cannot allow fear of guns or the desire of owning guns to cloud our acceptance of reality. The reality of a tax for gun owners is that we are just handing the government more money to be misappropriated. Insurance on a gun? Again we are just letting someone have more money that we don't have.

In truth adding any monetary responsibility does only one thing, it gives less power to people and more power to money.

Any one of us can become a victim at anytime, why should only the wealthy person have the option of buying a gun to feel a bit more safe and secure? That's crud.

The reality is that anything can be used as a tool of pain and suffering. A door is meant for privacy and to keep the elements (heat, cold, rain, ext..) out, however I could easily put someone's head in the door jam and repeatedly bash them until their body expires. Shoelaces are meant to keep your shoes tight and on your feet, but if I was so inclined I could strangle the life from you with it. Man has the potential to manipulate the most peaceful thing into an killing tool.

My point is that everything can be used for good or evil yet we do not fear everything or tax everything just because of what it has the potential to be used for.

There is no way for us to be one hundred percent safe. Your house could fall on your head at any moment.

Background checks and mental evaluations are our best bet at gun "control" but even they are flawed.

An insane person is not born, they are molded from their life experiences. Sanity and no criminal records are things that can change overnight.

So where does that leave us? Get rid of guns?

No!!!. Even if it were possible to eradicate every gun on the planet, you can't stop me from understanding the principals of how a gun work, thereby giving me the potential to make my own.

My call would be background checks and psychology exams twice a year for all gun owners.

It's the best we can do.

Good post.
 
Again...I don't believe that one person on this thread has said "Give up guns...", "Ban all guns..." etc....

Yet that keeps coming up...
 
Again...I don't believe that one person on this thread has said "Give up guns...", "Ban all guns..." etc....

Yet that keeps coming up...

Its the way the world works.

Gun control= Banning guns

Birth control=Abortions

Anytime you want to restrict something regulate it, it's equal to just banning it all together or in the case of birth control, killing babies. There is no grey area.
 
Its the way the world works.

Gun control= Banning guns

Birth control=Abortions

Anytime you want to restrict something regulate it, it's equal to just banning it all together or in the case of birth control, killing babies. There is no grey area.

:huh:
 
Weirdly enough - for all of how wondrous and amazing the U.S. can seem to me a lot of the time - there are two things which will forever perplex me. One is the apparent ease in which a person can buy a gun [and a ton of ammo] and the second is the ability to seemingly be able to sue just about anyone for anything.
Most "legitimate" lawsuits of this nature are to get money for medical bills. This is what happens when you don't have universal healthcare. :oldrazz: When I started driving, my dad warned me that I'd get sued up the wazoo if I caused an accident. I'm Asian, so financial ramifications are serious. :funny: He said his coworker will have his salary garnished for at least 10 years because of the accident he caused, to pay for the medical expenses of the person he injured. This is not uncommon.

But IIRC the guy suing WB wasn't physically injured. So yeah, that's dumb. Almost anyone witnessing a violent crime could sue for trauma then.

I agree. I don't care if my grandmother calls it the '"Batman shooting" but news outlets need to be more careful . The film doesn't deserve this as a legacy and the shooter shouldn't have the gratification of being linked to these characters.
Right. We fans shouldn't lose Batman to this bastard.
 
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