12 killed in Colorado shooting at Dark Knight Rises premiere - Part 2

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You can check out the picture in this article and plainly see this is not about 'forgetting' the people they lost...

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/...shooting-victims-fund-20120828,0,185770.story

Aurora shooting: What happened to $5 million donated to victims?
AURORA, Colo. — They gathered in unity on Tuesday for the first time, 18 victims or family members of those killed or wounded in the July 20 movie massacre asking what happened to the $5 million raised in the name of their loved ones.

“We’ve come to speak in one voice,” began Tom Teves, who took the role of informal leader of the group crammed onto a tiny stage Tuesday. His son, 24-year-old Alex Teves, was one of the 12 killed when a gunman opened fire in a packed Aurora theater showing “The Dark Knight Rises.” Fifty-eight others were wounded.

His voice rising in anger and then breaking in grief, Teves said at the news conference that the families wanted to know why they — those touched by the tragedy the most — were not included in the process of deciding how the millions of dollars raised would be distributed. “The victims have no voice at all,” he said, accusing those calculating need of being slow and disorganized at best, unresponsive and callous at worst.

“Put the politics aside and stand on the side of good,” Teves he pleaded, noting that his son’s picture and story, along with those of other victims, were used in fundraising efforts.

“We’re humbled by the generosity of the American public. I am certain that the public intended 100% go to the families of victims,” he said. “Nobody’s trying to get rich. There’s not enough money in the federal government to pay for what we lost.”

“I’m sorry for their pain, and I’m sorry this has to contribute to it,” said Cheryl Haggstrom, executive director of a Denver-area foundation called Community First, which is holding the donations. “We’re working as hard as we can.”

Haggstrom said that, until last week, family members of victims had not asked her foundation about becoming involved with the efforts of the 7/20 Recovery Committee. She said the committee was trying to find a way to get them involved.

The committee comprises about 30 different entities, including Aurora city officials, the district attorney’s office, school officials, mental health representatives, and a victims advocacy group. It meets regularly to decide how best to split up the money.

Feeling shut out of committee decisions has infuriated some families. “Don’t handle us. Let us be involved,” demanded Deidra Brooks, whose stepson, 18-year-old Jarell Scott, was shot and wounded.

Brooks said no one but victims and their families could fully understand what their needs are. She said her stepson cannot work, and cannot be left alone. He will not sleep with his back to a window or door. He panics at the sound of a car backfiring and she must be careful not to approach him from behind if she wants to give him a hug.

Teves also wondered about all of those who were in the theater that night but not wounded. Aren’t they victims, too? He said his son’s girlfriend escaped injury but was nonetheless “broken inside.”

Haggstrom explained that immediately after the shooting, her foundation was flooded with calls from people wanting to help, as was Gov. John Hickenlooper’s office. On July 21, the governor’s office and Community First co-founded the Aurora Victims Relief Fund. Donations could be made through the online arm of her foundation, called GivingFirst.org. As of last week, the fund had grown to more than $5 million, she said.

So far, each of the 70 families of those killed or wounded received a $5,000 check last week for immediate needs, totaling $350,000, Haggstrom said. An additional $100,000 was taken from the fund and divided between 10 community nonprofits to help victims, she said. The remainder is being held until the 7/20 Recovery Committee can best decide how it should used. The first disbursements were made through a group called Colorado Organization for Victim Assistance.

Haggstrom says each check came with a letter explaining that the $5,000 was just the beginning.

At the news conference Chantel Blunk, whose husband, Jonathan, was killed, said she was turned down when she asked the organization for additional money to bring her two young children with her when she flew to Colorado from her home in Reno, Nev., to attend a court hearing for James E. Holmes, the man charged in the mass shooting. She said her 4-year-old daughter has nightmares if separated from her, but the organization said there was no money for the extra plane tickets.

Officials with the organization could not be reached for comment.

Joshua Nowlan, shot in the left calf and right arm, came to the news conference with a crutch and his arm in a cast. “I may be injured but I’m still alive,” he said.

Still, there is one thing he needs to do. He wants to go back to the theater where he was shot and watch a movie. “I won’t be fully healed until I do.”
 
No, when it comes to the charity problem I fully agree with both of you. My point was just when the families of a vicitim instantly sue someone or anyone for $$$.

Like I said before, I do agree with the medication factor but a lot of times it's just greed. Like that guy(or were there more)that wants to sue Warner Bros just because their movie happened to be playing. That is ridiculous.
 
No, when it comes to the charity problem I fully agree with both of you. My point was just when the families of a vicitim instantly sue someone or anyone for $$$.

Like I said before, I do agree with the medication factor but a lot of times it's just greed. Like that guy(or were there more)that wants to sue Warner Bros just because their movie happened to be playing. That is ridiculous.

That is stupid. But it sounded before like you were responding to this particular controversy, and in this case it sounds absolutely justified.
 
I guess some loonies are looking for attention before the movie completes it's run. :doh:
 
Make-up and dyed hair automatically equals Joker?
 
Since they are clearly in need of a reference picture of the Joker:

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Why did you post this as if it's breaking news?

Not a good start for your first post.
 
Why did you post this as if it's breaking news?

Not a good start for your first post.

It was a spambot......a now banned spambot...may it rest in peace.....actually, may it burn in the fires of a thousand suns.....
 
Stupid spambot. :argh:

I went to see Raiders of the Lost Ark at the IMAX today, and noticed AMC has added a pre-show safety segment showing where the exits are and to alert management if you see someone acting "in a suspicious manner."

It's good that they have it, but it makes me so sad that they need it.
 
Stupid spambot. :argh:

I went to see Raiders of the Lost Ark at the IMAX today, and noticed AMC has added a pre-show safety segment showing where the exits are and to alert management if you see someone acting "in a suspicious manner."

It's good that they have it, but it makes me so sad that they need it.

Makes me glad I live on a little island.
 
Question - do these media types really have no clue as to one of the Joker's key visual characteristics [green hair] or are they simply pretending to be oblivious in order to establish a connection between the character and guys with dyed orange hair?
 
Question - do these media types really have no clue as to one of the Joker's key visual characteristics [green hair] or are they simply pretending to be oblivious in order to establish a connection between the character and guys with dyed orange hair?

Well, as far as the guy that started this whole thing in Colorado...when the police asked him his name he said...he was the Joker....so in that case, it wasn't just the hair color.
 
True, but in relation to that guy [and this recent idiot] the stories all seem to make reference to the fact that the guys have died their hair orange - just exactly how does that have any relevance?
 
Because it's an unnatural hair color that somebody chose to do. Similar to Joker in some sense. It don't have to be green, just a color not seen in nature.
 
It's BS. Many people over the world due their hair 'unnatural colours'. Does that mean they're trying to be the Joker?

It all just smacks of sensationalist journalism to me, trying to establish as many links as they can, irrispective of is they exist or not. I mean, they keep going on about the look of these two idiots but lets fact it, if the 1st guy hadnt actually said he was the Joker, no one wouldve seen a correllation. I mean, do either of these guys look like the Joker? The media would have people beleive that they do when they simply dont; what's next - 'the men were clearly copying the DC Comics character the Joker as they wore clothes and the Joker has worn clothes since his creation in 1940. In other news, man disguises himself as Superman by dying his hair blonde'.
 
Why are Joker references still the main topic of conversation on this subject? :whatever::whatever::whatever:

There's more important things than whether people are getting their Joker references correct.
 
Why are Joker references still the main topic of conversation on this subject? :whatever::whatever::whatever:

There's more important things than whether people are getting their Joker references correct.

It usually happens in this manner when there just isn't that much news on the subject at hand at the moment.

What exactly would you like to discuss as far as this matter is concerned?
 
Why are Joker references still the main topic of conversation on this subject? :whatever::whatever::whatever:

There's more important things than whether people are getting their Joker references correct.

This is SHH.

There have been endless threads on Superman's spit curl and spider-man's eye lenses.

Joker's hair color matters to me dammit!

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Why are Joker references still the main topic of conversation on this subject? :whatever::whatever::whatever:

There's more important things than whether people are getting their Joker references correct.

Because the media is reporting that the shooter in Colorado reportedly called himself 'the Joker' and has been using his unusual hair color as part of his costume. This isn't the only place I've seen it pointed out that the Joker's hair is actually green.

I think everyone understand the real magnitude of the tragedy here, but simply get annoyed when the media incorrectly uses this guy's hair color as proof that he was some wacko Batman fan, or that the shooting itself was related to the movie. It's a fair complaint.
 
Question - do these media types really have no clue as to one of the Joker's key visual characteristics [green hair] or are they simply pretending to be oblivious in order to establish a connection between the character and guys with dyed orange hair?


It gets people clicking on the link. Not many people would bother if the headline read "Man arrested at theater because he looked weird."

I was wondering the other day what would have happened if the shooting took place during TDK and everybody was actually dressing like the Joker during the premier.
 
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