20 Films "on the docket" for Phase 4. What are they?

I wonder how many of those 20 potential projects will be discarded now that Disney are about to get the X-Men and F4 back. We will probably never even know what some of them were.

That's another big concern I have about the X-Men joining the MCU. There's so many characters that deserve a spotlight that we haven't seen yet.
 
That's another big concern I have about the X-Men joining the MCU. There's so many characters that deserve a spotlight that we haven't seen yet.
Who really deserves the spotlight who we haven't seen yet?
 
Who really deserves the spotlight who we haven't seen yet?

Maybe "deserved" isn't the right word, per say. But characters like Black Knight, the Thunderbolts or Quasar could easily prove to be breakout stars, and would likely get pushed to the wayside in favor of the X-Men.
 
With respect CaptainWagner, none of those characters really take priority. Not to mention, they haven't even used any of the other major Thunderbolts characters yet other than Zemo, who wasn't even really Zemo anyway. They didn't seem to be in any hurry to make Thunderbolts. Really, I'd say proper X-Men, Silver Surfer, Fantastic Four supercede the likes of Black Knight, Thunderbolts, or Quasar.

Black Knight is a d-list character at best. Not saying we should never see him, but he's not that exciting. Which version of Quasar would you even use? Phyla-Vell for gender diversity or Wendell Vaughn? If you use Phyla, how do you handle her backstory?
 
The MCU is getting so big that there is going to be time to introduce everyone slowly. I think they'll move to 4 films per year at some stage and acquiring the Fox film production side should make that move more straightforward.
 
With respect CaptainWagner, none of those characters really take priority. Not to mention, they haven't even used any of the other major Thunderbolts characters yet other than Zemo, who wasn't even really Zemo anyway. They didn't seem to be in any hurry to make Thunderbolts. Really, I'd say proper X-Men, Silver Surfer, Fantastic Four supercede the likes of Black Knight, Thunderbolts, or Quasar.

Black Knight is a d-list character at best. Not saying we should never see him, but he's not that exciting. Which version of Quasar would you even use? Phyla-Vell for gender diversity or Wendell Vaughn? If you use Phyla, how do you handle her backstory?

I get that. It's just that one of the things that I really loved about the MCU was these minor characters getting elevated to wide awareness. It goes both ways. With Fox, they had movies for Gambit and Madrox in the works. Now there's a lot more competition for who gets to shine. So on one hand I get why it's exciting to see everyone in the same universe, but on the other, those quirky movies like Ant-Man, GOTG, Madrox, etc... are one of my favorite things about the current state of CBMs.

I've always felt like Black Knight would be really cool on the big screen and bring in some awesome mid-evil concepts we haven't seen. As for Quasar, I'd absolutely choose Phyla. Her backstory would of course depend on how Mar-Vell is used in Carol's movie, but if they stick even relatively close to the source, it would be easy to spin Quasar out of Captain Marvel, with Phyla using the bands to try and live up to her father's legacy.
 
Well this is a chance to maybe get major characters done right for the first time :D
 
Who really deserves the spotlight who we haven't seen yet?
The remaining non-mutant female Avengers, mostly: She-Hulk, Spider-Woman, Monica Rambeau... I hope Marvel Studios don't forget about them once they get their hands on the X-Women.
 
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The remaining non-mutant female Avengers, mostly: She-Hulk, Spider-Woman, Monica Rambeau... I hope Marvel Studios don't forget about them once they get their hands on the X-Women.

I get the feeling She-Hulk is tied up with Universal rights since they have the Hulk distribution rights. But, that is speculation on my part. Besides, I think she would be best on TV.
 
I remember Feige saying it would be more Team ups movie, which I very welcome.
Per example the Doctor Strange Movie can include Vision and Wanda.

I would see that :hearts:
Strange, Vision, and Wanda movie? Awesome!
 
I get the feeling She-Hulk is tied up with Universal rights since they have the Hulk distribution rights. But, that is speculation on my part. Besides, I think she would be best on TV.

Only story-wise. But effects wise, she would need lots of motion capture to get her height, size and look.

And even in a film, her appearances would be limited. In a TV show, she might barely appear. It would be like that Hulk TV show someone was thinking of doing some time ago before the Avengers. Not sure if that was Marvel or Universal.

And Jennifer Walters prefers to remain She-Hulk most of the time rather than only changing for a short time. I don't want to see very brief Hulk-outs like in the 70s Hulk TV series where Ferrigno would growl a bit, do a few bodybuilder poses, maybe toss something, move in slow motion and then run away from the authorities.
 
The remaining non-mutant female Avengers, mostly: She-Hulk, Spider-Woman, Monica Rambeau... I hope Marvel Studios don't forget about them once they get their hands on the X-Women.

I think we might see Monica Rambeau in the CM sequel. Could work well if Rogue takes Carol's powers temporarily.
 
I think we might see Monica Rambeau in the CM sequel. Could work well if Rogue takes Carol's powers temporarily.

It sounds kind of backwards but perhaps once Brie Larson is getting older ready to hang up playing Captain Marvel, giving her Ms. Marvel's 616 fate would be a fitting way to go (the coma was pretty much the end of the character for so long and never became popular until re-utilized much later). This would allow the current planned films to sort of play out a bit more until segue something in.
 
It sounds kind of backwards but perhaps once Brie Larson is getting older ready to hang up playing Captain Marvel, giving her Ms. Marvel's 616 fate would be a fitting way to go (the coma was pretty much the end of the character for so long and never became popular until re-utilized much later). This would allow the current planned films to sort of play out a bit more until segue something in.

The above makes sense. I guess it depends how long they want to wait to introduce various characters and whether they want to use that storyline at all.
 
It sounds kind of backwards but perhaps once Brie Larson is getting older ready to hang up playing Captain Marvel, giving her Ms. Marvel's 616 fate would be a fitting way to go (the coma was pretty much the end of the character for so long and never became popular until re-utilized much later). This would allow the current planned films to sort of play out a bit more until segue something in.

As long as it's not the Avengers #200 fate with them allowing her to go off with Marcus Immortus after he had mind controlled and raped her. That would be like the Avengers equivalent of a Hollywood cover up.

I don't see either the coma or the rape happening though, particularly the latter.

I want some of the future movies to be Marvel team ups - take a page out of Marvel Team-Up or Marvel Two-in-One.
 
I like the idea of a Quasar movie starring Wendell Vaughn. Here's video describing comics history of him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCDIcRWzXyQ

Ideas to include within 1st movie adaptation include:
-De-Constructed take on 1950's Marvel Boy Robert Grayson appearing posthumously as the Blue Marvel. (History of Marvel Boy here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Boy)

-Security Detail Wendell Vaughn (known as 3rd Marvel Boy/MarvelMan breifly before Quasar in comics) gains access to Robert Grayson's Quantum Bands (in comics Robert Grayson re-introduced as the Crusader many years after his stories in 1950's ended when he became slightly crazy calling self "The Crusader" until vaporized by Quantum Bands he wearing)

-Wendell Vaughn at some point could perhaps seemingly be vaporized as well when tries out Quantum Bands first time (this happened differently in comics where Wendell Vaughn was vaporized during the Infinity War storyline in 90's many years after his initial appearance in comics but I like the idea of tying what happened during Crusader's demise to a similar effect happening during Quasar's origin if a movie is made).

-Movie could utilize starbrand energy to allow Quasar to get up out of his confined area in the whiteroom and move about meaning still fully alive and perhaps not vaporized just transferred here (Starbrand Energy was introduced in the comics in an attempt to cross the failed new universe line of the late 1980's into 616 MCU in Quasar comics of early 1990's. Quasar crosses over into this dimension breifly before going back to MCU 616 in comics and is how he surives a blast from a weapon during infinity war).

-The "White Room" (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/whiteroom.htm) is presented. A limbo dimension/purgatory realm (known as Eonverse as essentially controlled by Eon) opens up and Wendell stuck here.


-Eon designates him his chosen one (comic term "defender of the universe"; this happens differently in comics so just my take here) and allows him to leave the Eonverse in some manner now fully harnessing the power of Starbrand energy along with the Quantum Bracelets.

-Notion of self-aware simulations from Eonverse projecting themselves into reality (sort of a generalized adaptation of what's explained at following link done in much better manner http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/quantumb.htm).

-Whendell Vaughn befriends 1 particular simulation that of Robert Grayson (otherwise known as the Blue Marvel when appears post-humously to Quasar http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/quantumb.htm).

-Eon Adaptation?: Could be represented by the Eonverse (white room) but also a sort of lovecraftian aberration that could emanate in place of some of the self-aware simulated ghosts (who react with horror when being pushed aside to sort of signify his arrival).

-Uranians appear


2nd Movie:
Could deal with the Kree and perhaps explain perhaps some sort of communication they've had with Eon? The comics just had Eon announce him as Defender of the Universe saying he originally preferred of Mar-Vell (original Captain Marvel who Marvel seemed to do-over for many years to maintain copyright perhaps until early 80's when killed off).

Even though my proposed adaptation above has him designated "Defender of the Universe" differently, I think still explaining the connection or difference between the Quantum Bands (wielded by Quasar) and the Nega Bands (wielded by Captain MArvel) as well as why wielder of Nega bands Eon originally considered endowed as "Defender of the Universe" could be explained (something don't believe comics ever did) in movie adaptation.
 
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The remaining non-mutant female Avengers, mostly: She-Hulk, Spider-Woman, Monica Rambeau... I hope Marvel Studios don't forget about them once they get their hands on the X-Women.

I don't think the X-Women would get in the way unless they started getting solo films. The Avengers is the reliable mega-cash cow so will likely just keep going with new members. X-Men is huge potential but it's still only potential and is a complicated thing to get right and also can be blown like JL was.
 
Characters I'd Like To see:

Cosmic:
Quasar
Death's Head (Freelance Peacekeeping Agent)
Silver Surfer
Galactus
Super Skrull
Monica Rambeau


Mystic:
Agatha Harkness
Ian McNee
Chthon
Oshtur
Set
Gaea
Nightmare
Shuma Gorath

Earth:
Moon Knight
Doctor Doom


Doctor Strange 2:
The Doctor Strange sequel is an unknown quantity as Scarlet Witch's powers could form a big plot point of the Doctor Strange sequel if they encompass Chaos Magic (actually a possible motive for Shuma Gorath to send forth Nightmare) and Chthon, which would be massive triggers for Mordo to go much more extreme. Whether Strange will be Sorcerer Supreme, or the film may involve him and Mordo fighting over that title with the above mentioned controversy looming.

Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3:
I think we will see a focus on Rocket Raccoon's origin, which I believe will involve the High Evolutionary (an alien in the MCU). I believe High Evolutionary and Magus will be the two villains, with Adam Warlock being the anti-hero. Quill's arc will likely conclude.

Spiderman: Homecoming Sequel:
This will likely be mostly unaffected by IW and Avengers 4, continuing mostly from Homecoming, with some slight references to IW and A4.

Black Panther 2:
Depending on the situation with Universal, Namor would make for a great anti-hero antagonist, with perhaps Set and the Serpent's Crown being behind the plot.

Captain Marvel 2:
Likely to tie-in to GotG3 to some extent, we could see her team-up with Monica Rambeau, Quasar, or Nova.

Fantastic Four
Will likely be faithful to the comics and have a colorful, optimistic tone, with lots of humor. Doctor Doom will be the antagonist, complete with Latverian lore.

Uncanny X-Men
Again, a more colorful tone than the Fox versions, with Xavier, Cyclops, Jean, Wolverine, Rogue, and Iceman as the main focus.

Wolverine
Inevitable.
 
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Well now that we have the rights back. I don't care what these films are. I wanna see all of them.
 
Well now that we have the rights back. I don't care what these films are. I wanna see all of them.

Same here. There haven't been any films so far that I haven't wanted to see.
 
The remaining non-mutant female Avengers, mostly: She-Hulk, Spider-Woman, Monica Rambeau... I hope Marvel Studios don't forget about them once they get their hands on the X-Women.

They will forget. Marvel has their A-listers back, and so they are no longer in the business of elevating B and C listers to A status. Any additional characters will be supporting minor characters, ala Scarlet Witch and Vision. There just isn't time for much else.
 
They will forget. Marvel has their A-listers back, and so they are no longer in the business of elevating B and C listers to A status. Any additional characters will be supporting minor characters, ala Scarlet Witch and Vision. There just isn't time for much else.

And this right here is my biggest problem with the Fox deal, that Marvel could wind up abandoning lesser known character. Elevating those lesser known heroes was one of the things that made the MCU so special.
 

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