2013/2014 NFL Thread: Attack of the Matts

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Ouch! There's no way The Saints and The Bucs make it to the playoffs. New Orleans is gonna need more than Payton back. They just made the transition to a 3-4 defense without the correct personnel. That defense could be horrific again. Adding Vaccaro changes nothing (mostly because he was overhyped coming out of Texas) simply because they are dreadful at tackling and possess no pass rush.

Let's not forget that the Saints finished 7-9 with one of the most horrific defenses in NFL history. I really don't see them going backwards. They've brought in Rob Ryan, who IMO, can improve the defense. As long as the Saints have a low average defense, they can win football games. You can have a terrible defense and still win games. Just ask the 2011 Green Bay Packers who went 15-1. They gave up the most yards on defense out of everybody.



As for Tampa, they acquired Revis, Goldson and drafted Banks, but they lost Bennett and Miller. The way I see it, where Freeman goes so do The Buccaneers, and he's not a dependable QB. His decision-making is shockingly bad half the time (I believe he had 4-5 games where he threw for 3-4 interceptions, and completed less than 52% of his passes).

Tampa lost a lot of close games last season mostly due to their secondary. Plus, they have a semi decent schedule. I think Freeman limits the mistakes this season.
 
Let's not forget that the Saints finished 7-9 with one of the most horrific defenses in NFL history. I really don't see them going backwards. They've brought in Rob Ryan, who IMO, can improve the defense. As long as the Saints have a low average defense, they can win football games. You can have a terrible defense and still win games. Just ask the 2011 Green Bay Packers who went 15-1. They gave up the most yards on defense out of everybody.

The Saints won 7 games only because of Brees. That's it. Even if Rob Ryan manages to improve that defense, it won't be enough. That squad only has one legit player in their front seven (and they traded for him). The other three LBers (one of the starters will be a third stringer) were drafted for a 4-3 formation, not a 3-4. The same thing goes for their DEs. The secondary is by far the biggest weakness in that defense and they did very little to address in the off-season. Quite frankly, Brees is the sole reason why The Saints have a shot at winning 8 games (at best).

That Green Bay team had 15 players on IR (9 of them were on defense). They gave up a ton of yardage but they also forced turnovers because of the pass rush. The Saints lack a pass rush BIG TIME.

Tampa lost a lot of close games last season mostly due to their secondary. Plus, they have a semi decent schedule. I think Freeman limits the mistakes this season.

That depends. Our freakin secondary made Freeman appear like a terrible back up QB, and he has V-Jax and Mike Williams. I mean, if Tampa fans are already calling for his head and the coaching staff is prepping a 2013 draft pick to take snaps, then it wasn't just the secondary that cost Tampa a playoff berth.
 
Here's my predictions for the upcoming season.

NFC

1. Green Bay Packers - (12-4) - They've lost 2 games at home in the past 3 seasons. Rodgers should have another solid season.

2. Atlanta Falcons -(11-5) The division is tougher than it's been in years. Saints and Bucs will give them a run. This is another team that's stellar at home.

3. Seattle Seahawks - (10-6) - Call me crazy, but I'm taking the Hawks over the Niners. In fact, my bold prediction for the year, Is the Niners missing the playoffs.

4. New York Giants (9-7) - This will come down to the last week of the season between all 4 teams. Giants are left standing

5. New Orleans Saints - (10-6) - Sean Payton is back.

6. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - (10-6) Their improved secondary will help them win games. Plus, Josh Freeman is underrated.


Wild Card - Seahawks def Buccaneers
Wild Card - Saints def Giants

Divisional - Falcons def Seahawks
Dvisonal - Saints def Packers

NFC Championship - Saints def Falcons


AFC

1. Denver Broncos (13-3) - The division is weak and Manning has a new weapon.


2. New England Patriots (12-4) - This is another division that is a lock. Dolphins are quietly gaining though.


3. Cincinnati Bengals (12-4) - They can beat the Ravens and Steelers anywhere. They also have a decent schedule.

4. Houston Texans (11-5) - Are basically the Atlanta Falcons these days. They'll put together another solid season.

5. Baltimore Ravens - (10-6) - They've made some improvements on defense, but it's not enough to win the division.

6. Pittsburgh Steelers - (10-6) - Steelers bounce back and sneak into the playoffs.


Wild Card - Bengals def Steelers
Wild Card - Texans def Ravens

Divisional - Bengals def Patriots
Divisional - Broncos def Texans

AFC Championship - Broncos def Bengals


Super Bowl 48

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Broncos def Saints

Denver Broncos - Super Bowl 48 Champions

It's your NFC predictions I have issues with.
 
By the by, Panthers signed strong safety Quintin Mikell. Holy *&#%$!

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Suddenly, our secondary doesn't look below average behind that front seven anymore.

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He's an ok player, liked him here in STL. He is average but better than you had before.
 
It's hard to keep beating a team like that. The game is gonna be close. I'm not saying the Packers are going to win, but if they do, the 49ers could lose the following week and be in a 0-2 hole.

They could. And we'll have a lot of games to come out of that hole if we do hit 0-2.

I went a little overboard by saying far better. That's my bad. However, I think the Seahawks have the better running game and the better defense.

I'd say equal in either regard. The Seahawks by far have the better secondary. But I think the 49ers have the better front 7.

Running game? I think that Gore / Lynch is pretty much a wash.

I think it does. The following teams can win more than 10 games. Packers, Falcons, Seahawks, Washington, Dallas, NY Giants, Buccaneers, Saints, Bears, 49ers and probably a surprise team. Will all those teams win more than 10 games? Probably not. But there's enough there where a good team will be out.

I doubt Dallas does. If New York does, they will probably be the only team in the East to do so. Washington maybe as well, if RGIII stays healthy, which is a HUGE "?" right now. I know Chicago got 10-6 last year, but I'm not expecting big things out of them. I do acknowledge the Saints are a wild card. They struggled last year due to suspensions, and I feel like people forget that. With being back at full strength, I think they will be a force again this year, and Atlanta isn't going to have such an easy go at that division. I'm not sold on anything from Tampa Bay or Carolina though until proven otherwise.

If Kaepernick would have played the whole season, he would have passed Wilson in rushing attempts(of course this is based on AVG rushing attempts). Kaepernick also came in during the St.Louis game and rushed for 66yds on 8 attempts.

Again, Kaeprnick actually rushed more than Wilson last season based on AVG rushing attempts. Kaepernick would have rushed the ball over 120 times compared to Wilson's 94 attempts if he had started the whole season. While that's not a huge difference between them, more rushing attempts means more chances to get hurt. Kaepernick is not the only QB in that category. Wilson, Newton, and RG3 are right there with him.

I never said Seattle was better based on their QB. I think heading into the season, Seattle has the better defense and running game. I think that's the difference maker.

Hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, as I'm saying this very aware of my rep around here, but I think you're doing it wrong.

You can't really just say that, because averages don't stay the same throughout the course of the season. Perfect example: You say Colin averaged more rushes per game than Kaepernick did, but over the same identical 7 game span, Russell Wilson rushed more times. Michael Crabtree put up better #'s the final 8 games with Colin Kaepernick than he did the first 8 with Alex Smith. Things change, and averages fluctuate. You can't really make the claim that Colin Kaepernick "rushes too much", but not hold that against Russell Wilson also, because they rush for roughly the same amount, and as I pointed out, over an identical span of time, Wilson actually rushed more.

If I'm wrong at the end of the season, they I'll say I'm wrong. I just think the dominoes could fall where the 49ers are out of the playoffs. Sometimes the losing Super Bowl teams tend to have a hangover. I think that happens this season.

I suppose they -could-. Anything is possible. Colin Kaepernick could get injured, and the 49ers get the 1st pick in the draft. Nothing is out of the realm of possibility.

But I don't think it's going to happen. Losing Super Bowl teams tend to have a hangover, you're correct, but the past few years that this trend has held true, the losing team in the Super Bowl wasn't really considered to be the best team in the NFL going into the following season.

And I'm not trying to be a 49ers homer here. I am trying to remain realistic about my expectations. I believe another Super Bowl run is -possible-, but unlike last year, I'm not operating on a "Super Bowl or BUST" mentality. I don't really think I have Super Bowl expectations this year. Super Bowl hopes certainly, but not expectations. Too many injuries already with Crabtree, Manningham, Culliver, etc. Too much up and coming competition like an emerging Seahawks, a re-emerging Saints, RGIII leading a new era for the Redskins, the Falcons will only be better from their playoff run last season, and yes, the improving Buccaneers / Rams / Panthers / Bears who... I don't think are gonna be huge trouble makers this year, but aren't gimmes in the least bit.

I think The 49ers could be in trouble this year too. The NFC is stacked. Kaepernick's passing will be tested with opposing defenses now having tape on him. He has fantastic arm velocity and a quick release but there are times where he pitches instead of passing, and that could bite him in the ass (check out The Ram games -- he appeared very average). Sorry, but The Packers have the superior secondary. If Green Bay improves against the run, I don't see Colin beating them. Then, there's Seattle. I am starting to loath their fanbase (pompous and self-entitled morons who think they got screwed out of OROY, DROY and the Super Bowl) but they have the best secondary in the NFL. Kaep is gonna have to rush for 150 yards to give the 49ers a chance.

Packers have a superior secondary? Sorry, I don't buy that. San Francisco took a HUGE hit with the loss of Goldson. No way that Reid can fill his shoes in year 1. And Whitner isn't great in coverage. But we got great corners from 1-3 in Carlos Rogers, Tarell Brown, and now Nnamdi Asomugha. Unfortunately we lost Chris Culliver for the year, but we still got good #4 depth with Tramaine Brock and Eric Wright as well. The secondary will be find, and Kaepernick already embarrassed Green Bay's once already.
 
He's an ok player, liked him here in STL. He is average but better than you had before.

He's better than average. Mikell is a top five safety. He got great scores from PFF and PFT.
 
Packers have a superior secondary? Sorry, I don't buy that. San Francisco took a HUGE hit with the loss of Goldson. No way that Reid can fill his shoes in year 1. And Whitner isn't great in coverage. But we got great corners from 1-3 in Carlos Rogers, Tarell Brown, and now Nnamdi Asomugha. Unfortunately we lost Chris Culliver for the year, but we still got good #4 depth with Tramaine Brock and Eric Wright as well. The secondary will be find, and Kaepernick already embarrassed Green Bay's once already.

You bet your ass on it. I would take Shields and Hayward over anybody The 49ers have in their possession.

Rogers isn't great. In fact, he's below average when the front seven aren't causing enough pressure. Brown is decent (I'll give you that one) and Asomugha is an unknown factor. Wright? You mean the corner that was obliterated by back ups? Overall, I don't trust your secondary. They've been exposed. Y'all better hope that Justin Smith doesn't go down because Aldon went from a DPOY candidate to a non-factor.
 
Hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, as I'm saying this very aware of my rep around here, but I think you're doing it wrong.

You can't really just say that, because averages don't stay the same throughout the course of the season. Perfect example: You say Colin averaged more rushes per game than Kaepernick did, but over the same identical 7 game span, Russell Wilson rushed more times. Michael Crabtree put up better #'s the final 8 games with Colin Kaepernick than he did the first 8 with Alex Smith. Things change, and averages fluctuate. You can't really make the claim that Colin Kaepernick "rushes too much", but not hold that against Russell Wilson also, because they rush for roughly the same amount, and as I pointed out, over an identical span of time, Wilson actually rushed more.

You're right. I did the math wrong. I was kinda in a hurry. They're about equal in that category.

I know you're a Niners fan, and I respect that. I just have a gut feeling they're not gonna be as good this season. I've made bold predictions over the years on here. Some have been right, some have been wrong. I guess we'll see what happens.

But thank god football starts Thursday/Sunday. :up:
 
You bet your ass on it. I would take Shields and Hayward over anybody The 49ers have in their possession.

Rogers isn't great. In fact, he's below average when the front seven aren't causing enough pressure. Brown is decent (I'll give you that one) and Asomugha is an unknown factor. Wright? You mean the corner that was obliterated by back ups? Overall, I don't trust your secondary. They've been exposed. Y'all better hope that Justin Smith doesn't go down because Aldon went from a DPOY candidate to a non-factor.

People don't realize that Aldon Smith was injured during that same span as well. It wasn't the Justin Smith factor alone.

Wright is gonna be our #4 guy... at best... not a #1 or #2.

Rogers below average? He was a pro bowler like 2 years ago!

You're right. I did the math wrong. I was kinda in a hurry. They're about equal in that category.

I know you're a Niners fan, and I respect that. I just have a gut feeling they're not gonna be as good this season. I've made bold predictions over the years on here. Some have been right, some have been wrong. I guess we'll see what happens.

But thank god football starts Thursday/Sunday. :up:

Oh we won't be -as good-, I believe that fully myself. I just don't believe they are gonna completely fall off the map. As someone who didn't think that Kaepernick should have been the starter at any point last season, I have full faith and confidence in him going forward. Gore is gonna be Gore, our offensive line is a monster, our defensive front 7 is beastly. There's only 2 "?"'s on our team - Kaepernick, and our new secondary. And neither one of them am I any sort of worried about.

My biggest worry is not having Michael Crabtree until November.

But therein lies another factor. If we can remain strong for the first half of the season, we're gonna be getting healthy to close out the season and going into the playoffs. So we're only gonna get better as the year goes on.
 
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Damn I love football season. Every year the Bengals fanbase says it'll be their year, usually followed by transforming into the Bungles. Difference is this year they actually seem to have it together.

I'm not one to usually declare that sort of stuff, so I get a pass. And I'm not stating this is their year. I said I think it'll be the best year we've had in decades. I think next year will be their year :up:

I keep my head just a tad below the clouds (what can I say, I'm a pessimist).
 
I'm not one to usually declare that sort of stuff, so I get a pass. And I'm not stating this is their year. I said I think it'll be the best year we've had in decades. I think next year will be their year :up:

I keep my head just a tad below the clouds (what can I say, I'm a pessimist).

Of course & as I said, they actually have the tools all laid out for them this season: Dalton's good, Green is exceptional, BGE is good, & your defense is pretty damn solid and opportunistic. The Bengals will probably be a problem this season and every year going forward.

Besides, I expect some fire from you, having been your sidekick from '06 - '08 but now the pupil has become the Master.

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He's better than average. Mikell is a top five safety. He got great scores from PFF and PFT.

I get you're excited. Haha I just watched the guy for the past 2 years or so and while he is good I wouldn't say he is a top 5 safety in the league, he is older and limited safety he can't play different schemes well and while he is a great tackler if he was top 5 he wouldn't have remained on the market this long. I'm not trying to be a Debbie downer just telling you what I saw in him as a player. His intangibles really make him good, he is fearless and a good leader and example for young players.
 
Psh... remember your place JewishGenesis.

Oh I know my place and much like our respective teams, it's standing OVER you.:cmad:

With all this talk of 49ers & Seattle, if RGIII can remain healthy, it's the Redskins I'd be worried about emerging from the NFC.
 
I don't think you'll going to see the same RG3 going into the first few weeks of the season that you saw before RG3 got hurt. That being said, I think they can go 3-1 into their bye.
 
I don't think you'll going to see the same RG3 going into the first few weeks of the season that you saw before RG3 got hurt. That being said, I think they can go 3-1 into their bye.

I agree entirely, Griffin's impatience to get back on the field, possibly before he's ready may end up biting them. That's why I have the caveat of him remaining healthy BUT if he does? That's a team that nobody wants to see this season. Morris & RGIII alone can stretch a defense on every down, which opens the way for Garcon.

We'll see how the post season looks, little boy. Post season! :cmad:

Bring it, old man. You were always holding me back. :cmad:

Hall of Fame Quarterback Steve Young on Joe Flacco yesterday:

Steve Young said:
"We still have not seen the best of Joe Flacco,'' Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young told USA TODAY Sports. "Last year was the fourth inning of what Joe can really be. Joe is going to handle these complications -- the big stage, the trade of Anquan Boldin, Dennis Pitta's season-ending injury -- in a unique way, because he's so mellow."

"Half of it is just an innate confidence of, 'Yeah, I've been there, done that on the biggest stage.' As a quarterback, there's nothing more valuable. That's why he was worth the money.''

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...ack-can-joe-flacco-be-better-in-2013/2755657/

Good to see at least one 49er that's reputable.
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Does anyone have experience buying tickets from Stubhub?

If I want a good deal, when is the best time to buy tickets that are instant download? Thinking of going to a game but want to know when is the best time to buy for a Sunday 1PM game
 
Go Denver!!!

Go BEARS!

Does anyone have experience buying tickets from Stubhub?

If I want a good deal, when is the best time to buy tickets that are instant download? Thinking of going to a game but want to know when is the best time to buy for a Sunday 1PM game

Never bought them from somewhere like StubHub BUT you always want to get your tickets with enough time in advance that you can fight traffic, navigate the stadium, and oust anyone that's decided to take advantage of an empty seat.
 
Do your homework Zeus.

Find comparable seats through ticketmaster and ebay and see how much of a deal you're getting.

I bought tickets for the Steelers at the Giants and paid $250 a ticket at Stubhub. But that's what I was willing to pay and I was in the 100s section so....

Remember you do have to pay a surcharge which was like $25 a ticket if I'm remembering right.
 
I get you're excited. Haha I just watched the guy for the past 2 years or so and while he is good I wouldn't say he is a top 5 safety in the league, he is older and limited safety he can't play different schemes well and while he is a great tackler if he was top 5 he wouldn't have remained on the market this long. I'm not trying to be a Debbie downer just telling you what I saw in him as a player. His intangibles really make him good, he is fearless and a good leader and example for young players.

Judging from the rankings, Mikell ranked from 4-8. Regardless, Quintin is a major upgrade, and will fit in perfectly in our system (especially with McDermott and Rivera). Mikell had a career year last season in coverage and against the run. So while he's older (at 32), I doubt the wheels start falling off this year. Several sites have him as a Top 10 SS and a few others as a Top 5 SS, and was by far the best safety available in free agency.

Agree to disagree.
 
Do your homework Zeus.

Find comparable seats through ticketmaster and ebay and see how much of a deal you're getting.

I bought tickets for the Steelers at the Giants and paid $250 a ticket at Stubhub. But that's what I was willing to pay and I was in the 100s section so....

Remember you do have to pay a surcharge which was like $25 a ticket if I'm remembering right.

Yeah, I am just asking about timing...I hear the price drops like crazy the night before or the day off...Are you familiar with that?
 
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