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PLOT:
When notorious crime boss Black Mask is captured, his organization works to break him of out jail. But when Batman is sidelined, Batgirl and Robin must prove they can be heroes on their own and stop Black Mask.
REVIEW:
Black Mask is one of those important Batman villians that that general public doesn't know about. The only people who know about him is us fans. Black Mask is important because not only does he and his family have a connection to the Wayne Family, but he caused great impact on Batman's life, even when Infinite Crisis was on the horizon to begin. He started the false face society and targeted Wayne Enterprises, led a cult during No Man's Land, and caused a a gang war in War Games. But while he tried to get rid of Batman, he had troubles with Catwoman which led to his death. Yes, Black Mask is one of those great characters yet he has not been in any other media. He was planned for BTAS, but he wasn't in the show though he did appear on the show's comic with other villians which also never appeared (which half ended up appearing on JL/JLU). But that has changed with TB, here is Black Mask's first animated appearence, let's see how it goes:
Black Mask here is like the comics: a mob boss who acts like a terrorist who he does his demands when he threatens, and then plots to detroy the city (don't worry, its not in a corny way). I was glad they didn't change him to make him colorful like the other villians like Joker or Penguin, while people would say his organization was. His organization was like a cult moreson than his mob. I also liked how there was no way to remove his mask (well I believe Black Mask can do that a special trick way) and no way to ID from his fingerprints. The reason why is because I think if they did wanna make the connection between Black Mask and the Wayne family, it would be a shocker for Batman to see this criminal hits close to home.
Batman basically gets captured in this episode, but it doesn't mean we don't get any good Batman moments. When he fights Black Mask's organization, the blue lighnting (and with help of his new chin) it created his true Dark Knight look. Then when he is captured, the anger he has to plummet the man holding his belt, all this made me think of BTAS.
When they first showed up to take care of Black Mask, there was no arguing at all between them. When they chase the van carrying Black Mask, they both mock Batman when they talk about the grunt jobs he's been giving them, that was kinda cute. And when Robin and Batgirl talk about the villians in the WANTED posters, they aren't rivals at all. These two also proved themselves when Black Mask escaped and put him back into his cell, and when they had to take care of Black Mask's men, they're experienced enough to handle their own without Batman. Plus, they do care about each other when they talked like if each of them ever got scared when the enemy was closing in.
Overall, this episode was. It was great to see Gordon again, although he appeared a bit in the previous episode, he finally saw him as a supporting character this season. This episode did a grert job at Black Mask, in no way was I offened in any change (if any). He was a villian and showed that even when he "replaced" his right hand man for not getting him out in time because of the little duo. But this episode was an important one for Robin & Batgirl. We all know what they will become both in their hero roles and together, relationship-wise, and this episode gave the first steps toward that instead of just having them arguing and being rivals. This episode was a very good one
RATING: 8.5/10
When notorious crime boss Black Mask is captured, his organization works to break him of out jail. But when Batman is sidelined, Batgirl and Robin must prove they can be heroes on their own and stop Black Mask.
REVIEW:
Black Mask is one of those important Batman villians that that general public doesn't know about. The only people who know about him is us fans. Black Mask is important because not only does he and his family have a connection to the Wayne Family, but he caused great impact on Batman's life, even when Infinite Crisis was on the horizon to begin. He started the false face society and targeted Wayne Enterprises, led a cult during No Man's Land, and caused a a gang war in War Games. But while he tried to get rid of Batman, he had troubles with Catwoman which led to his death. Yes, Black Mask is one of those great characters yet he has not been in any other media. He was planned for BTAS, but he wasn't in the show though he did appear on the show's comic with other villians which also never appeared (which half ended up appearing on JL/JLU). But that has changed with TB, here is Black Mask's first animated appearence, let's see how it goes:
Black Mask here is like the comics: a mob boss who acts like a terrorist who he does his demands when he threatens, and then plots to detroy the city (don't worry, its not in a corny way). I was glad they didn't change him to make him colorful like the other villians like Joker or Penguin, while people would say his organization was. His organization was like a cult moreson than his mob. I also liked how there was no way to remove his mask (well I believe Black Mask can do that a special trick way) and no way to ID from his fingerprints. The reason why is because I think if they did wanna make the connection between Black Mask and the Wayne family, it would be a shocker for Batman to see this criminal hits close to home.
Batman basically gets captured in this episode, but it doesn't mean we don't get any good Batman moments. When he fights Black Mask's organization, the blue lighnting (and with help of his new chin) it created his true Dark Knight look. Then when he is captured, the anger he has to plummet the man holding his belt, all this made me think of BTAS.
When they first showed up to take care of Black Mask, there was no arguing at all between them. When they chase the van carrying Black Mask, they both mock Batman when they talk about the grunt jobs he's been giving them, that was kinda cute. And when Robin and Batgirl talk about the villians in the WANTED posters, they aren't rivals at all. These two also proved themselves when Black Mask escaped and put him back into his cell, and when they had to take care of Black Mask's men, they're experienced enough to handle their own without Batman. Plus, they do care about each other when they talked like if each of them ever got scared when the enemy was closing in.
Overall, this episode was. It was great to see Gordon again, although he appeared a bit in the previous episode, he finally saw him as a supporting character this season. This episode did a grert job at Black Mask, in no way was I offened in any change (if any). He was a villian and showed that even when he "replaced" his right hand man for not getting him out in time because of the little duo. But this episode was an important one for Robin & Batgirl. We all know what they will become both in their hero roles and together, relationship-wise, and this episode gave the first steps toward that instead of just having them arguing and being rivals. This episode was a very good one
RATING: 8.5/10
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This season is really shaping up. Whoever wrote this episode and "The Everywhere Man" should have been writing since the beginning.
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Am I the only one who actually liked Black Mask? Sure, when he was locked, he did nothing but mutter and taunt, but whenever he was free, he was the balls. James Remar did a good job voicing him, and I think the way he "demoted" Number 1 was hilarous, but kinda badass. Mr. Mask could have been a trainwreck, but this translation was good. Next time though, he better do more stuff.
Batgirl and Robin had some nice chemistry, and there were even some serious moments with them. They weren't bickering like last time, and had some development. I also loved Batman's line at the very end. Speaking of implied deaths, was there people in that building Black Mask blew up at the beginning?
Gordon is back, and he actually spoke. The only bad stuff is Black Mask not doing a lot of stuff, but otherwise, I loved it.
5/5
NEXT WEEK: Gordon, Robin, and all the Gothamites are zombies, and Batman will have a crummy day. First vampires, and now zombies. Poor guy!
Batgirl and Robin had some nice chemistry, and there were even some serious moments with them. They weren't bickering like last time, and had some development. I also loved Batman's line at the very end. Speaking of implied deaths, was there people in that building Black Mask blew up at the beginning?
Gordon is back, and he actually spoke. The only bad stuff is Black Mask not doing a lot of stuff, but otherwise, I loved it.
5/5
NEXT WEEK: Gordon, Robin, and all the Gothamites are zombies, and Batman will have a crummy day. First vampires, and now zombies. Poor guy!
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Think I said this before, but what a difference a season makes. Last season, this show was all but squandering the good will it earned with Season 2. Now it seems to be back on track, even as it's expanded the roster of sidekicks to the point where THE BATMAN is all but a team show in itself. While this episode wasn't the best of the season so far, and while THE BATMAN in itself isn't nearly as deep, moody or mature as it's DTV or some of the DCUA stuff, right now it's the best comic cartoon on TV, period. Apparently along with Dick Grayson came some more competant writers, who have been able to write the sidekicks as useful instead of annoying.
This episode is what I call a "formula episode", in which it's basic plot follows a formula that has been done, basically, to death. This one is the "sidekicks save the day" episode, which has been done with every and any superhero to ever have a teen sidekick, partner, or friend ever. From SUPERFRIENDS to BATMAN BEYOND and everything in-between. But this one manages to avoid the pratfalls. Firstly, while the sidekicks save the day, they aren't infalliable. Secondly, they don't actually save Batman himself via plot convience (a problem that "BRAWN" had). Nor do they endanger him in the first place ("Brawn", or half of Batgirl's episodes last season). The episode also sees the animation debut of one of Batman's newer rogues (at least "new" compared to Joker or Penguin), Black Mask. Originally a guy in a black mask, his design is basically a complete rip off of 90's Red Skull, only with a black skull. Not the show's fault, but DC's. That said, they made him look and sound quite good. He's a decent mix of "novelty rogue" and mobster. He has no fingerprints and no way to remove the mask (from the outside). And he has semi-competant, tech-savy men, including his second-in-command, Number 1.
Black Mask holds the city hostage; he asks the Commish (who makes a vocal return here) for money or he'll blow it up; what the Tick would call, "standard villian procedure". Batman manages to track him down, and with the help of Robin & Batgirl once he calls in the goon-squad, captures Black Mask. The police naturally give Batman the credit for the take-down, leaving the kids feeling a little dejected. However, the bomb still has to be located, so Batman goes off to find & defuse it while he orders the sidekicks to watch the precinct until police reinforcements arrive.
This time around, Batgirl & Robin are getting along a little better and feel united in the sense that they want more responsibility and are tired of getting "small missions" from Batman (they joke about him ordering them to "wash the Batmobile"). However, naturally, their simple guard duty gets more complicated when Number 1 and the minions gas the police station to order Black Mask's escape.
Batman, for his part, tracks down BM's old hideout where the bomb USED to be, and finds himself surrounded by a good dozen or more henchmen, all armed with stun-staffs. He puts up a good fight, but unlike Everywhere Man, these guys can fight and quickly overwhelm him; tossing him in a cage and somehow removing his tech-locked belt.
Batgirl & Robin exchange banter as they try to fortify the precinct against BM's minions and keep Black Mask himself in jail. While Robin seems to have superior acrobatics and combat ferosity, Batgirl has more experience in terms of "cop" knowledge, some gadgets, and general common sense/ideas. At one point when Batman cannot be contacted, Robin asked if Batgirl "ever gets scared", and I wondered if it was because Robin may have feared that Batman was actually dead (like the villians hinted) and that would mean losing a father TWICE. Alas, the show really didn't go there nor hint that angle enough. I really get the feeling that were it not for network demands the writers could really kick it up a notch. A second THE BATMAN DTV has become essential. The duo are eventually stunned (I liked how it took one zap to stun them but maybe 2-3 to stun Batman) and Black Mask gets freed, but Batgirl allows them to get out of the cell and they go in for the clobber again. Black Mask shows his ruthless side by backstabbing Number 1 for "letting children stop him". James Remar does a great job as Black Mask and he blended in nicely with Batman's rogues gallery. This season has been good for new villians so far; Tony Zucco, Everywhere Man, Black Mask, even Killer Moth. And Danielle Judovits shows again that she is a good voice for Barb when she has decent lines.
Batman, for his part, displays zen-like patience waiting until there are only 2 goons guarding him, and one of them grabs his belt. He activates a "zapper" tactic via voice and frees himself. While the sidekicks apprehend Black Mask, they're unable to stop him from detonating the bomb; fortunately, Batman was able to defuse it in time. It's not until later that Batman sees how rough the sidekicks had it and congradulates them. However, the episode ends on a corny joke as he does, indeed, ask them to wash his car. Had they revealed that Batman'd been eavesdropping electronically, it would've worked better, but as it was it just was a corny cherry atop a decent episode sundae. THE BATMAN's not Top 10 cartoon material but it's top of the current heap.
Next week looks to be a Halloween episode; pity that in their infinite wisdom, Kid's WB ran reruns during October to save episodes for sweeps.
Another enjoyable episode, although not as good as last's weeks, and I think This is my least favorite episode of the season, but that's not so bad. It was perfectly workable and enjoyable.
This episode is what I call a "formula episode", in which it's basic plot follows a formula that has been done, basically, to death. This one is the "sidekicks save the day" episode, which has been done with every and any superhero to ever have a teen sidekick, partner, or friend ever. From SUPERFRIENDS to BATMAN BEYOND and everything in-between. But this one manages to avoid the pratfalls. Firstly, while the sidekicks save the day, they aren't infalliable. Secondly, they don't actually save Batman himself via plot convience (a problem that "BRAWN" had). Nor do they endanger him in the first place ("Brawn", or half of Batgirl's episodes last season). The episode also sees the animation debut of one of Batman's newer rogues (at least "new" compared to Joker or Penguin), Black Mask. Originally a guy in a black mask, his design is basically a complete rip off of 90's Red Skull, only with a black skull. Not the show's fault, but DC's. That said, they made him look and sound quite good. He's a decent mix of "novelty rogue" and mobster. He has no fingerprints and no way to remove the mask (from the outside). And he has semi-competant, tech-savy men, including his second-in-command, Number 1.
Black Mask holds the city hostage; he asks the Commish (who makes a vocal return here) for money or he'll blow it up; what the Tick would call, "standard villian procedure". Batman manages to track him down, and with the help of Robin & Batgirl once he calls in the goon-squad, captures Black Mask. The police naturally give Batman the credit for the take-down, leaving the kids feeling a little dejected. However, the bomb still has to be located, so Batman goes off to find & defuse it while he orders the sidekicks to watch the precinct until police reinforcements arrive.
This time around, Batgirl & Robin are getting along a little better and feel united in the sense that they want more responsibility and are tired of getting "small missions" from Batman (they joke about him ordering them to "wash the Batmobile"). However, naturally, their simple guard duty gets more complicated when Number 1 and the minions gas the police station to order Black Mask's escape.
Batman, for his part, tracks down BM's old hideout where the bomb USED to be, and finds himself surrounded by a good dozen or more henchmen, all armed with stun-staffs. He puts up a good fight, but unlike Everywhere Man, these guys can fight and quickly overwhelm him; tossing him in a cage and somehow removing his tech-locked belt.
Batgirl & Robin exchange banter as they try to fortify the precinct against BM's minions and keep Black Mask himself in jail. While Robin seems to have superior acrobatics and combat ferosity, Batgirl has more experience in terms of "cop" knowledge, some gadgets, and general common sense/ideas. At one point when Batman cannot be contacted, Robin asked if Batgirl "ever gets scared", and I wondered if it was because Robin may have feared that Batman was actually dead (like the villians hinted) and that would mean losing a father TWICE. Alas, the show really didn't go there nor hint that angle enough. I really get the feeling that were it not for network demands the writers could really kick it up a notch. A second THE BATMAN DTV has become essential. The duo are eventually stunned (I liked how it took one zap to stun them but maybe 2-3 to stun Batman) and Black Mask gets freed, but Batgirl allows them to get out of the cell and they go in for the clobber again. Black Mask shows his ruthless side by backstabbing Number 1 for "letting children stop him". James Remar does a great job as Black Mask and he blended in nicely with Batman's rogues gallery. This season has been good for new villians so far; Tony Zucco, Everywhere Man, Black Mask, even Killer Moth. And Danielle Judovits shows again that she is a good voice for Barb when she has decent lines.
Batman, for his part, displays zen-like patience waiting until there are only 2 goons guarding him, and one of them grabs his belt. He activates a "zapper" tactic via voice and frees himself. While the sidekicks apprehend Black Mask, they're unable to stop him from detonating the bomb; fortunately, Batman was able to defuse it in time. It's not until later that Batman sees how rough the sidekicks had it and congradulates them. However, the episode ends on a corny joke as he does, indeed, ask them to wash his car. Had they revealed that Batman'd been eavesdropping electronically, it would've worked better, but as it was it just was a corny cherry atop a decent episode sundae. THE BATMAN's not Top 10 cartoon material but it's top of the current heap.
Next week looks to be a Halloween episode; pity that in their infinite wisdom, Kid's WB ran reruns during October to save episodes for sweeps.
Another enjoyable episode, although not as good as last's weeks, and I think This is my least favorite episode of the season, but that's not so bad. It was perfectly workable and enjoyable.
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dude was awesome, why the hate?jaydawg said:
there's plenty that could be built on that.
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babs got KICKEd off a helicopter onto a rooftop, got up RAN after a helicopter and jumped BACK on!!!!
MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
she was pretty hardcore in this ep, and kept her cool, it showed although robin is batman's right hand man, babs still has something on him on experience and detective skills (although robin has youth agility and is able to make the best of his surroundings).
I was though at many points in this expecting batman to be either the black mask in disguise as someone or someone else but meh...
MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
she was pretty hardcore in this ep, and kept her cool, it showed although robin is batman's right hand man, babs still has something on him on experience and detective skills (although robin has youth agility and is able to make the best of his surroundings).
I was though at many points in this expecting batman to be either the black mask in disguise as someone or someone else but meh...
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This episode was good on all points . [I'll post an In depth review later .]
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jaydawg said:
Haha, it was a good eppy indeed. I liked "The Everywhere Man" sim ple because the episode was writeen quite well, even though it might've come across as cliched. The dialogue was good, and there wasn't any cheesiness (at least none I could detect).
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jaydawg said:
Agreed, Team Penguin was a good one! Clayfaces was a "meh" episode that got bumped to "cool" in my book simply because of the Superman II dinner nod
. I still need to see Everywhere Man, but I thought The Breakout was a pretty good ep. too.
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Everywhere man was an okay episode but I have feeling people are rating it high because of a certain person's voice over.
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