50 Shades of Grey - Part 1

[Black Narcissus]

zryson 16 hours ago
50 Shades of Grey looks set to have one of the hottest soundtracks of the year. As for the movie, hopefully it lives up to the hype but the sex industry will certainly get a boost from it.

 

[SuperT]

Still haven't found that 'Crazy In Love' remix.

 

[MadVillainy]

^^^It'll come out by Tuesday

The one reason Im glad this movie was made because I love that remix

 

[Rocketman]

I'm actually pretty stoked for this movie. The atmosphere/tone of the trailers is right up my alley, and I love the weird/creepy techno-electronic vibe of it. It kind of gives me a "Drive"/"John Wick" feeling.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I have liked all of the released soundtrack songs so the soundtrack will be gotten. I don't think I'll be seeing the film though...yeah there is zero chance of my seeing the film.

 

[Rocketman]

I JUST realized what this reminds me of. It reminds me of something Bret Easton Ellis would do, like American Psycho, and The Informers. Combine this with Drive WITHOUT the action, that's this movie. I like that.

 

[terry78]

I have liked all of the released soundtrack sounds so the soundtrack will be gotten. I don't think I'll be seeing the film though...yeah there is zero chance of my seeing the film.

Cavill can't be in everything.

 

[mclay18]

I JUST realized what this reminds me of. It reminds me of something Bret Easton Ellis would do, like American Psycho, and The Informers. Combine this with Drive WITHOUT the action, that's this movie. I like that.

I think Ellis expressed interest in adapting "50 Shades". Now that would be interesting to see with the same director and cast.

 

[Nemeres]

I caved to the curiosity and bought the book at the supermarket. 100 million readers can't be wrong.

 

[MadVillainy]

The Crazy in Love remix....fantastic

I think it might be pitch shifted but not sure

 

[:eek:]

Looks like this movie have set a new all-time record for pre-ordered tickets for the opening weekend in Sweden...

 

[Pink Ranger]

Looks like this movie have set a new all-time record for pre-ordered tickets for the opening weekend in Sweden...

And under a new Swedish law, all men who attend screenings of that movie will be arrested on their way out of the theatre for first degree rape.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Well one of my female friends actually just wrote a paper ( for her college class Women Studies ) on the whole 50 Shades Of Grey phenomenon. She sent it to me to read and she brought up some valid points. I am generally summarizing because it's really in depth. First, she said she isn't intersted in seeing this movie and wonder why other women would want to see a man dominate and abuse a women. She says an average dude without money would be charged with rape etc. She also blasts the story for being a glorified porn. She also makes points about the demographic and audience for the film. Now my friend is a white female, but she points out the fact that is movie is made specifically for white women. She says this movie wouldn't be this big phenomenon nor would a movie been made if Christian Grey was a Asian, Black, or Hispanic man.

She goes on to say that she hopes movies start to reflect different/ interracial relationships. But I guess she threw that part in there because she is in a interracial relationship ha. But she makes some other really good in depth points about why women shouldn't support a film like this. I could email it to anyone intersted in reading it. It's like three and a half pages long though.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Well one of my female friends actually just wrote a paper ( for her college class Women Studies ) on the whole 50 Shades Of Grey phenomenon. She sent it to me to read and she brought up some valid points. I am generally summarizing because it's really in depth. First, she said she isn't intersted in seeing this movie and wonder why other women would want to see a man dominate and abuse a women. She says of a average dude without money would be charged with rape etc. She also blasts the story for being a glorified porn. She also makes points about the demographic and audience for the film. Now my friend is a white female, but she points out the fact that is movie is made specifically for white women. She says this movie wouldn't be this big phenomenon nor would a movie been made if Christian Grey was a Asian, Black, or Hispanic man.

She goes on to say that she hopes movies start to reflect different/ interracial relationships. But I guess she threw that part in there because she is in a interracial relationship ha. But she makes some other really good in depth points about why women shouldn't support a film like this. I could email it to anyone intersted in reading it. It's like three and a half pages long though.

See, this is EXACTLY why the Hype needs a distinct forum for academic women's studies papers! Get on it admins!

 

[MadVillainy]

First, she said she isn't intersted in seeing this movie and wonder why other women would want to see a man dominate and abuse a women. She says of a average dude without money would be charged with rape etc.

I thought that since Twilight. I know there are other examples, but the first time I noticed it was in Twilight. The main guy in Twilight was straight creepy. He followed her, watched her sleep, forbade her from seeing certain people. And the main girl was unhealthily obsessed with the guy Pattinson played and, in a lesser thing, she really was kinda an emotional cheat and kinda a tease.

I dont get why women and men admire a relationship where one person is abusive to the partner.

Also Great Gatsby. There are girls out there who say they want a love like the one in Great Gatsby. Men say they want to be cool like Gatsby. Both genders throw Great Gatsby theme parties...did they all miss what the story was all about.

In the end though, it's all entertainment and they want to enjoy it let em be. I just think it's weird.

 

[terry78]

What women say they want and what they want are two entirely different things. As you get older you figure that out.


That's a lie actually. You'll never figure it out.

 

[MadVillainy]

What women say they want and what they want are two entirely different things.

It's men too

 

[terry78]

Do we do that?

 

[MadVillainy]

Definitely

 

[Doctor Jones]

I think there's an arrogance and hypocrisy of women telling other women of what they should or shouldn't see. I haven't read the book, but why are women so drawn to it? Is it the story? The sexuality? The psychology? I don't know, I'm curious. Plus, you have to give more women credit than just reading the book and being ignorant of the novel's qualities, whatever the intentions were of the author to convey. They're not women who read these books and ignore "the bigger dangerous issue." Nor do they look for those things when they want to get something pleasurable sexually out of it. If women just get superficial pleasure out of reading/imagining/seeing a hot guy as eye candy do sexual things, let them. It's no different in principle than watching a bunch of hot men stripping. They just enjoy it... so what? As long as they don't get in any of these kind of relationships themselves as a result of this or this dictates how they should live, thus doing damage to their own lives, then I don't see the problem. I don't even know the author's intentions for writing this book in the first place. Was it something for just pure pleasure of fantasy or something more? I'm actually curious.

It's also something interesting you guys above bring up older women being more aware, yet middle aged, even married women read these books. It might come down to just pleasure and fulfillment... however sexual that might be. I can't fault people for that.

 

[Anita18]

I think there's an arrogance and hypocrisy of women telling other women of what they should or shouldn't see. I haven't read the book, but why are women so drawn to it? Is it the story? The sexuality? The psychology? I don't know, I'm curious. I think you have to give more women credit than just reading the book and not ignoring the abusive qualities. If women just want to read/see it because they just enjoy it and want to see and imagine a hot guy as eye candy do sexual things that's just as superficial as can be, let them. It's no different in principle than watching a bunch of hot men stripping. They just enjoy it... so what? As long as they don't get in any of these kind of relationships themselves as a result of this or this dictates how they should live, then I don't see the problem. I don't even know the author's intentions for writing this book in the first place. Was it something for just pure pleasure of fantasy or something more? I'm actually curious.

It's also something interesting you guys above bring up older women being more aware, yet middle aged, even married women read these books.

There was a very very long comment thread on Reddit about how 50 Shades of Grey came about, spearheaded by someone who witnessed it happen in real time. Basically, it was originally a Twilight fanfic involving no vampires (which is apparently not unusual). EL James wasn't an involved member of the fanfic community, but she was very shrewd, and took note of what made the most popular fanfics so popular. And then she wrote 50 Shades of Grey to contain basically ALL of the popular tropes and formulas that she saw. It was literally written to be viral.

She was also shrewd enough to publish it in short chapters, to maximize the amount of views she got. So that's why it got up to the most hits on the fanfic website, and she managed to get it published touting those elevated numbers. Then she marketed it to the fanfic website, saying they should support one of their own, etc.

Then when she hit it big, she deleted everything she had on the fanfic website, deleted her account, cut off contact with all of her followers there, and basically pretended they never existed at all.

If anything, I have to admire how utterly shrewd she is. But she is no talented writer, she doesn't care about how her work affects others, and she certainly doesn't care if her portrayal of BDSM is accurate or not. From what I gathered, all she wants is to make money.


If anyone wants to read 50 Shades of Grey, they should go right ahead. IMO, if someone really learns that an abusive relationship is a healthy one because of what they read in a couple books, they were clueless and insecure to begin with.

I've read a couple paragraphs. It was utter s***, so I stopped. Nobody says you have to read the whole book to make a quality judgement call.

 

[terry78]

So basically the entire series is one big trolling.

 

[Doctor Jones]

There was a very very long comment thread on Reddit about how 50 Shades of Grey came about, spearheaded by someone who witnessed it happen in real time. Basically, it was originally a Twilight fanfic involving no vampires (which is apparently not unusual). EL James wasn't an involved member of the fanfic community, but she was very shrewd, and took note of what made the most popular fanfics so popular. And then she wrote 50 Shades of Grey to contain basically ALL of the popular tropes and formulas that she saw. It was literally written to be viral.

She was also shrewd enough to publish it in short chapters, to maximize the amount of views she got. So that's why it got up to the most hits on the fanfic website, and she managed to get it published touting those elevated numbers. Then she marketed it to the fanfic website, saying they should support one of their own, etc.

Then when she hit it big, she deleted everything she had on the fanfic website, deleted her account, cut off contact with all of her followers there, and basically pretended they never existed at all.

If anything, I have to admire how utterly shrewd she is. But she is no talented writer, she doesn't care about how her work affects others, and she certainly doesn't care if her portrayal of BDSM is accurate or not. From what I gathered, all she wants is to make money.


If anyone wants to read 50 Shades of Grey, they should go right ahead. IMO, if someone really learns that an abusive relationship is a healthy one because of what they read in a couple books, they were clueless and insecure to begin with.

I've read a couple paragraphs. It was utter s***, so I stopped. Nobody says you have to read the whole book to make a quality judgement call.

I heard about that yeah. I gotta give her credit for at least pulling this off as this is unheard of. Because that is hard to do, especially online. Content aside, the woman has made millions off of fan fiction. I can think of a lot of people here and on the internet who wouldn't mind that.

Then that's pretty awful of her if that is the case. However, intentions or not, the response is out of her hands, more so just the women who find simple pleasure out of reading the books. If they liked it, then they like it. It's almost an anomaly but it happens.

I agree with you there as well. From the little I've heard and gather, if women are using this as a template for their relationships... then that isn't a good thing. However, in this case, if she doesn't care about how her books effects others in a negative way, she is responsible in part. There's a level of responsibility as to how an artist's work effects others, but I think only when there is apathy on the author's part and when something bad happens. From what you say, she sounds like a pretty nasty person. Nevertheless, her being a nasty person doesn't prevent millions of people from just liking these books and getting simple fantastical pleasure out of them.

 

[Anita18]

I've read a couple of s**** fanfics myself, because they're guilty pleasures. I wouldn't say they were any good, quality-wise. And I certainly wouldn't be proud of saying I liked them publicly.

But that's the thing, the books are SO BAD that I side-eye anyone who would fawn in public over them. (They're called guilty pleasures for a reason!) And I would certainly side-eye anyone who would pay $15 to go see a movie made of a guilty-pleasure crappy book.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Any writer worth his salt will know the book is an abomination. But the film will make money of that there is no doubt.