80's action movie shoot out - nomination thread

[Catman]

I don't count the Star Wars movies as action. They have action, but are not really action movies in the sense of a true action movie.

Agreed. It's like Tim Burton's Batman. It's not an action movie. It's a dark fantasy that happens to include some action scenes.

 

[turtlefocker]

I was just clearing up the rules of nominations as some seemed to be confused. Mine still stand:

Die Hard
Lethal Weapon
Raiders of the lost Arc

If it were four Id add Aliens.

 

[Catman]

So...basically Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, and Raiders of the Lost Ark are the winners?

 

[Warhammer]

someone should vote for commando. "let off some steam, bennet"

That is such a guilty pleasure of mine.

*Breaks neck*
"Could you get some pillows please? My friend is dead tired."

 

[chamber-music]

Commando
Cobra
Red Dawn

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Commando
Cobra
Red Dawn

WOLVERINES!

 

[Carmine Falcone]

Sure they are. There is no such thing as a 'true action movie'. Every action movie is also part of another genre(s). Die Hard is a crime thriller. Face/Off is a sci/fi thriller. Once Upon A Time in the West is a western..

You're calling OUATINTW an action movie?

 

[itsthebatman]

Terminator, Aliens, Raiders.

 

[vampireslayer97]

Aliens
Die Hard
Raiders

 

[true316]

Rambo: First Blood Part II
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Terminator

Honorable Mention: Commando

 

[Leto Atrides]

Aliens is sci-fi/action just like Alien is sci-fi/horror. Because it takes place in a spaceship, nobody considers it a horror film, but it very much is. As for Aliens, some (including I) would say would consider it an action film because it seriously was an action film with alot of sci-fi elements. James Cameron turned the sequel to one of the greatest horror films of all-time into one of the best action films of all-time, let alone one of the best sequels. Why Aliens is not considered an action film while T2 is confuses me a bit, because they are exactly the same in genre.

I'd say its because Alien wasn't really an action movie, so people take the franchise as part and parcel. I don't agree, and would say Aliens is definitely an action movie, whereas Alien is more of a horror movie (it was basically a sci-fi version of a haunted house).

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I'd say its because Alien wasn't really an action movie, so people take the franchise as part and parcel. I don't agree, and would say Aliens is definitely an action movie, whereas Alien is more of a horror movie (it was basically a sci-fi version of a haunted house).

Aliens is as much a war movie as anything else.

 

[Leto Atrides]

Aliens is as much a war movie as anything else.

I don't know, it's a bit small-scale for that I think. It's a military thriller to be sure, but it's doesn't really have that sense of them being part of a bigger struggle.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I don't know, it's a bit small-scale for that I think.

Scale isn't important. It's about warfare. It's clearly about Vietnam as well.

 

[Leto Atrides]

Scale isn't important. It's about warfare. It's clearly about Vietnam as well.

It's about warfare, yes, but it's not really about a war, or even a section of one. And it does have purposeful resemblances to Vietnam as well. But it is not itself a really a "war movie". I mean, First Blood has warfare and concerns Vietnam much more, but it's not a war movie. A war movie has a lot of implications behind it, it isn't just a story that has to do with non-interpersonal fighting.

And besides, a war movie can be an action movie. Something like The Flying Leathernecks is both.

 

[Golgo-13]

Predator
Rambo 2
Commando.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

It's about warfare, yes, but it's not really about a war, or even a section of one. And it does have purposeful resemblances to Vietnam as well. But it is not itself a really a "war movie". I mean, First Blood has warfare and concerns Vietnam much more, but it's not a war movie. A war movie has a lot of implications behind it, it isn't just a story that has to do with non-interpersonal fighting.

A war movie is a movie about warfare. It doesn't have to be about a war. I'm sure you're aware of the 1964 movie Zulu. Little difference between that and Aliens. Small army faces huge onslaught of natives who make up for a lack of high-tech weaponry with sheer numbers.

And besides, a war movie can be an action movie. Something like The Flying Leathernecks is both.

I know it can. I'm not disputing that. Aliens falls into numerous genres.

 

[Hunter Rider]

The tag line agrees with Kevt:

 

[Leto Atrides]

A war movie is a movie about warfare. It doesn't have to be about a war. I'm sure you're aware of the 1964 movie Zulu. Little difference between that and Aliens. Small army faces huge onslaught of natives who make up for a lack of high-tech weaponry with sheer numbers.

Sure, it's one of my favorite movies. But a big part of that was that they were just recently defeated, and the Battle of Roark's drift, which the movie depicts, ended the Anglo-Zulu War.

I wasn't talking about the scale of the battle itself, it can like Enemy at the Gates where it is between two men. I was talking about the scale of what's going on in the background, what the fighting is a part of.

I guess it does work as a war movie, I agree with you that it uses a lot of themes and archetypes and what not from them. But something about the fact that it's a one-off event, and not part of a bigger struggle, makes it not ring to me personally as a war movie. But as you said, it has everything else, so I suppose you're right.

Edit:

The tag line agrees with Kev t:

Haha

 

[Hunter Rider]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this gemt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObUuFsYgyGE

 

[TheCaretaker]

Commando

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this gemt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObUuFsYgyGE

Man, movie trailers were impossibly cheesy back then.

I'm glad I came back from the future to save you all from stuff like that.

Wait...

 

[Hunter Rider]

Die Hard
The Killer
Raiders of the lost ark

 

[Cinemaman]

Raiders of the Lost Ark
Blade Runner
Aliens

 

[rdh007]

Red Dawn
Roadhouse