C. Lee said:I know who you are...please behave this time.
Please, please, don't end up like him, Corinthian and all the others.
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C. Lee said:I know who you are...please behave this time.
Mr Sparkle said:LOL, no, think "east germany".......
Mr Sparkle said:LOL, the pamphlets where meant to lessen the chamce of those intent of crossing, diying in the process. that's number one, the Mexican government has it's equivalent of the border patrol, it goes around looking for coyotes and actually stops illegal immigrants sometimes and tries to convince them to stay, and in Tijuana , the police arrests people that it sees hanging around the border wall, ah! it's so comforting to know I speak truth and not only recite things i have heard.
as far as terrorists, I have said this too many times really, the 9-11 attackers where legal immigrants on watch lists.
there is no merit to that, since there are no plans to close the canadian border, if terrorists wanted to go to the US they would cross from there.
StorminNorman said:I am sorry that you oppose the American government protecting its citizens, but its the pracitcal thing to do.
pHat_aL said:Please, please, don't end up like him, Corinthian and all the others.
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pHat_aL said:I will sum everything up in 1 statement:
Either you're for the immigrants, or racists towards Mexican.
Which is it? Choose. It's one or the other.
Sparkle said:people want better lives for their families, and try as they might they can't get it in Mexico (we know from the 97% employment they are more than willing to work)
dcbmp said:Deportation of illegals
Citizens arrest of illegals
Even if you are naturalized if you're not Mexican you're second class
Can't run for office
etc.
Symbiotica said:Fine.
GET A GREEN CARD.
StorminNorman said:I am sorry that you oppose the American government protecting its citizens, but its the pracitcal thing to do.
Mr Sparkle said:you don't really think this has anything to do with "protecting" anything do you?
your not that naive? are you?
Darthphere said:What exactly is a wall protecting us from? Illegal immigrants are breaking the law but for the most part are no danger to the community.
StorminNorman said:A good amount of immigratns illegally passing over the border are drug deals, the fact is though that immigrants who illegally enter this country could be anyone, that is the risk they present. They could be Jose Smith, poor worker looking for a life- or Jonny Taliban looking to kill all Americans. We cant risk the chance it is the latter.
StorminNorman said:It has everything to do with protecting America.
StorminNorman said:A good amount of immigratns illegally passing over the border are drug deals, the fact is though that immigrants who illegally enter this country could be anyone, that is the risk they present. They could be Jose Smith, poor worker looking for a life- or Jonny Taliban looking to kill all Americans. We cant risk the chance it is the latter.
Mr Sparkle said:no, not really, you are very, very naive.
like I said, 9-11 terrorists where legal immigrants, so, no, not really.
StorminNorman said:no, not at all. I am not arguing on the behalf of any politician - I am arguing because of my feel on the matter. My personal stance is that it is a National Security concern, simply as that. Also the 9/11 terrorists were not legal immigrants, their visas had experied and nothing was done about it.
Mr Sparkle said:my point is that the went into the country LEGALLY and you obviously have no idea the ammount of money and manpower it would take to look for and round-up every person that overstays a visa.
StorminNorman said:The came into this counrty, however they were not legal at the time 9/11 happened. I know that it is very difficult and darn near impossible to round up those who overstay their welcome - I wasnt making that point, only that they were infact Illegal.
Darthphere said:Different type of illegal as someone crossing the border however so in fact this whole point is really irrelevant.
StorminNorman said:the minute men
StorminNorman said:I know, I just wanted to be an ass.![]()
KingOfDreams said:I have a real problem with those guys. The whole thing seems like an excuse for commiting hate crimes. Vigilantism isn't the answer.
Here's the key word. Are those blacks LEGAL....or illegal?Mr Sparkle said:see, this is thing I love about those who say these things.
I have a little tid-bit of info for you buddy.
no one does that.
there's no Mexican minutemen surrounding the borders, there's no Xenophobia in Tijuana and In resort towns that are flooded with retirees and black people (yes, black people by the hundreds are living in mexico, at least in tijuana) I have yet to see any kind of movement organized to "deport" them, though, they "take our houses" and "drive up our rents", maybe you SHOULD take a "Leaf" from Mexico, just not the constitution.
dcbmp said:Here's the key word. Are those blacks LEGAL....or illegal?
Also, if say 12 million Americans flooded Mexico illegally and demanded Bilingual schools, "human rights", and all the other things most illegals are DEMANDING would Mexico be as tolerant?