ABC's Once Upon a Time - Part 7

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Overall I enjoyed this episode more then I did last weeks. QoD came off a little better overall with them not being played like they are some rookies. It was nice to see them play Snow/Charming.

Maleficent got plenty of air time which was great, she had plenty of little good moments. And now she was pregnant! Maury needs to guest star on this show and tell us whose the daddy!

So Snow/Charming went to great lengths to make sure that Emma grew up with the greatest light she could have, which involves Mal losing baby Mal. Interesting.

I just remembered Emma's whole ability to tell if someone is lying to her, was her love for her parents nullifying that ability?

I worry about Ursula, a lot of her traits are already taken up by Regina and Rumple. Shapeshifting, making deals, I hope they don't overlook those aspects of the character. Right now all her character is good for is her Mr. Fantastic tentacles.

With magic being in Storybrooke, I was a little surprised to see Cruella/Ursula even at Grannys trying to get their drink on, it was a nice little funny scene but cant they just conjure up some drinks?

I do wish that Maleficents return had seem to be a little bigger of a deal. She is a big time villain, there should've been some storms a brewing, Regina/Snow/Charming truly worried and not just worried about their secret getting told. Everyone took the news of her return as a "oh, ok" just as everyone is taking Ursula/Cruella already revealing themselves to still be bad, no one is really worried.

I really wish that Red was still around, such a waste of a good character with potential. I think having a scene with the good guys vs. bad guys, Red turning into a wolf to attack the QoD and Cruella being able to manipulate her while in that form would be a good scene.
 
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Interesting episode.

I felt sorry for Maleficent at the end of this episode it was sad that she lost her child after the dark curse. However there's a theory going around right now that

Lily could be Malefiecent's daughter

Don't know if its a good theory or not but it is questionable. I also want to know more of Hook's and Ursula's history.
 
It'll be nice to see Snow and Charming [blackout]actually being responsible for something bad happening to someone else.[/blackout] None of that Regina "Waaah, you're the reason Daniel died" crap.
 
I liked this episode a lot t
he ending wit Mal was a bit heartbreaking especially since that was probably the reason she was a retired villain in season 1.
Cruella is awesome with the best dialogue I hope to see more of her outside of this season.

Belle moving on with someone her own age was nice to see.
 
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who thinks emma will go to the darkside...that would be cool
 
This was a good set up for the rest of the season. I totally want to know what happened to Maleficient's baby now and the hell would foster a child with her.
 
For all we know Maleficient's child could be [BLACKOUT]Lily.[/BLACKOUT] Also, though we haven't seen it fully, I like Maleficient's Storybrooke look.
 
There is an episode later this season titled [BLACKOUT]Lily[/BLACKOUT], so I think you're probably right.
 
For all we know Maleficient's child could be [BLACKOUT]Lily.[/BLACKOUT] Also, though we haven't seen it fully, I like Maleficient's Storybrooke look.

indeed... i think
Lily is Tiger Lilly (very fairie kinda name) and is also the child of Mal... which we know is of course, alive and well
 
For all we know Maleficient's child could be [BLACKOUT]Lily.[/BLACKOUT] Also, though we haven't seen it fully, I like Maleficient's Storybrooke look.

i thought about that after this weeks episode...but i kept thinking..that girl that girl..i couldnt think of her name:cmad:
 
Unless...

They decide to do something stupid like saying that Snow and Mal switch babies.
 
Be kind of hard to pull that off considering we saw David take Emma right after she was born and put her into the wardrobe.
 
It sounds like they are setting up Emma to have an "opposite"
Lily is most likely Mals daughter, she has scenes with her and apparently Lily has a kid. Not to mention that the episode after "Lily" is titled "mother"

Also it appears that QoD arc is over by 4x20.
 
Ah, well if any of this turns out to be true I wonder who they'll get to play [BLACKOUT]adult Lily[/BLACKOUT]?
 
I would think they already have an actress for her since she is in the present day I believe.
 
[WARNING: The following contains spoilers from Sunday's Once Upon a Time episode. You've been warned, dearie!]

Maleficent the malevolent! Maleficent... the mother?!

On Sunday's Once Upon a Time, viewers learned two huge secrets: Maleficent (Kristin Bauer van Straten) was once a would-be mom, and that somehow, Snow White and Prince Charming (Ginnifer Goodwin, Josh Dallas) were responsible for the loss of that dragon-child way back when they were all in the Enchanted Forest. We have so many questions, but first and foremost: How is a baby Maleficent made? "You will learn how it's made and how she gets it," series co-creator Adam Horowitz tells TVGuide.com. "What we're going to see is the critical juncture of how the baby is born and what comes a bit after it's born. We're going to obviously explore how she lost her child. And at that end of that episode, I think you can see on her face that it was a very painful experience."

For Bauer van Straten, this new dimension of the classic Disney villain was a welcome change. "It was really enjoyable at the beginning to think she's just 100 percent reptile and doesn't have the DNA to feel remorse for her actions, 100 percent selfish in her goals and desires," the actress says. "I imagined what it was like to be pretty much all the billionaires on earth. Then it thrills me when I actually can put some sort of Achilles heel in there and that it becomes part of that pure pain, that she imagines it will feel good and make her feel happy to make that pain she feels inside to make someone else feel."

Maleficent certainly has pain on her mind when she confronts Snow in her Storybrooke guise as Mary Margaret. It's not clear whether or not her kids Emma (Jennifer Morrison) and baby Neal will become targets though. "It's so much fun to play somebody who has time on her side in that she's immortal," Bauer van Straten says. "She doesn't have to rush for her revenge. Killing someone in this realm, this isn't a John Wayne sort of revenge. This is like, 'I will take my time and I will watch how things develop and I will figure out how to keep the pain happening as long as possible.' So we have the whole season for Maleficent to try to work that out. But of course there are other people who are going to try to not have that happen, so this is like Olympic chess."

The actress, a die-hard animal advocate, took inspiration from a particular kind of snake to play Maleficent. "I was in Africa last year, and the black mamba is a terribly frightening, fascinating snake that is territorial and will hunt you," she explains. "It's so fast; you can't get away and feels no remorse. I tried to have it inform my body movements and how I would transform into a dragon. I had to make up something physical and hopefully make it look really cool. So I used YouTube videos of reptiles for the inspiration."

Read on to see what the else the co-creators have to say about the episode:

How much will we explore Hook (Colin O'Donoghue) and Ursula's (Merrin Dungey) past?
Edward Kitsis: We're getting a whole episode. Episode 15 will explain what he did to her. It was not sexual. It is, as he said, far worse. When you think about what would be worse than having your heart broken. I would say it was having your soul crushed. You're going to see the entire flashback of what happened. You're going to see the entire origin of Ursula.

How does Ursula's dad fit into that? You cast Ernie Hudson as her dad.
Kitsis: Similar to what we've done with Cora, Young Cora and Emma, Young Emma, we're going to meet Ursula at about 18 or 19. As we all know, Hook is about 385 years old. It's the guyliner.

What challenges are coming up for Emma now?
Kitsis: For Emma right now, the two people she trusts the most in her life are lying to her, and she's suppressing that. So finding that out will be kind of a bummer. She's done a lot of growing over the three and a half seasons. And what happens when you find out that the person who is helping you grow might actually be as bad as the people you're trying to get away from?

David and Mary Margaret are now driven to lying and drinking. How bad is this secret?
Adam Horowitz: In many ways, it's the worst thing that either one of them have ever done. We're going to explore what that was and how it shaped who they are now.

Is this whole secret arc going to somehow tie in with the fact that they share a heart that has a dark spot on it?
Horowitz: The heart having a dark spot will absolutely be addressed, but it's not necessarily tied to the secret.

How does Mary Margaret's decision to open up to Regina (Lana Parrilla) about this secret change her guilt and shift that relationship?
Horowitz: Snow was [once] asked to keep a secret and couldn't keep her mouth shut. Can Regina keep her mouth shut? I'd say Regina is probably a stronger and better secret-keeper than Snow White. But it does create a bond between the two of them, a bond that's gone back a really long time. She was her stepmother

Why did you decide to pair Belle (Emilie de Ravin) and Will Scarlet (Michael Socha)?
Kitsis: Any time you have your heart broken, you look for a way to smile again. .. They both fell in love with villains. They both hoped that these villains would be redeemed. He fell in with the Red Queen, and she changed, and he saw the woman beneath the monster, and that's the same with Belle. So they have a lot in common. What we loved about Belle in the winter finale was she was kind of like, "It's enough. It's enough lying." At some point you have to stop giving people the benefit of a doubt. You have to say, "Change or f--- off." We love that strength from Belle, and we love her moving on. It's like if you got married at 21 and now you're 32, you kind of might think, "I want to live again."
Horowitz: Belle has to be strong. One of the things that happened in that relationship with Rumple is as his lies grew and as his betrayals grew, the audience was seeing that Belle was unaware of any of this. We really wanted to build in the first half of the season her discovery and letting her act out of strength. And now, if they are to have any chance of being together, she has to be a strong person. What he has to do is ultimately probably going to prove difficult.

Will Will Scarlet be a target for Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold (Robert Carlyle)? How jealous is Rumple?
Horowitz: He's not happy.
Kitsis: Listen, the last person who took his woman was Hook, and he took his hand off and killed his wife, so I'd be worried.

How much more of Rumple will we see going forward?
Kitsis: You have a man who's lost everything, literally as we saw now. Belle has moved on. He is going to do his Rumple-est to get it all back. You're going to see full Rumple.
Horowitz: After what happens at the end of that last episode, he doesn't disappear. That activates him in a way and starts him on a new quest that he's really energized about.
Kitsis: The Queens of Darkness believe they're working with Rumple, but we all realize that you work for Rumple.

Apart from his new relationship with Belle, will we learn more about Will? Will there be flashbacks?
Horowitz: We are going to see Will in a flashback with Robin Hood (Sean Maguire). And we are going to absolutely get a little more information about him through that.

http://www.tvguide.com/news/once-upon-a-time-kristin-bauer-unforgiven/
 
I have a feeling I am not going to enjoy Ursulas backstory esp if it includes Hook.
 
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So I guess we now know who Agnes Bruckner was cast as...
 
Hook has become such a dull character, I would not mind if Dark Emma kills him, he earned it afterall! :emp:

This second half is already more interesting than the Frozen one, hopefully Emma's arc will be worth it, with real consequences, not just a gimmick. I agree Lily is going to be
Mal's daughter
, it seems to fit with her story so far. I wonder what happened to Anastasia, she really loved Will and they got a happy ending on OUAT:Wonderland, we'll see I guess.
 
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