ABC's Once Upon a Time - Part 8

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I love season 2 so much. There's some filler in there and the last ten minutes of the finale were rushed like crazy, but there was so much good stuff to that season. Manhattan still stands as my favorite episode in the series.

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Kind of crazy how many toys in the toybox Disney lets them play with. First Frozen, their huge blockbuster. Now Brave, the first Pixar property they've been allowed to touch. I honestly want them to do Jack Skellington and the Nightmare Before Christmas characters next. Anything goes.
 
They don't seem to be that into doing charecters that require to much make up or time.
 
They never have. Rumplestiltskin is the only one who really got that special treatment.
 
I feel like of all the characters they could've done awesome make up with, Red Riding Hood could have been done practically instead of digitally, and the true Ursula redesign was such crap, especially when Regina was a perfect live action carnation of it. I'm ok if they wanted to change it to a more green direction, but they coulda kept the look of Regina's sea witch and mixed it with the Broadway version of Ursula.
 
I love season 2 so much. There's some filler in there and the last ten minutes of the finale were rushed like crazy, but there was so much good stuff to that season. Manhattan still stands as my favorite episode in the series.

Anyway...

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Kind of crazy how many toys in the toybox Disney lets them play with. First Frozen, their huge blockbuster. Now Brave, the first Pixar property they've been allowed to touch. I honestly want them to do Jack Skellington and the Nightmare Before Christmas characters next. Anything goes.

i almost barely consider her pixar anymore... since she got inaugurated officially as a disney princess.. and is licensed as such now, with the rest of the girls
 
I feel like they never really wanted to TLM but only adapted them because of fans wanting them. They did the very less with Ariel/Ursula compared to some of their other adaptions.
 
Regina Ursula, Ursula Ursula, and young Ursula, right?

no..

Regina Ursula, Ursula the Goddess (never shown in physical form, only statue form), and Ursula Poseidon's Daughter who was named after the Goddess of old
 
I feel like they never really wanted to TLM but only adapted them because of fans wanting them. They did the very less with Ariel/Ursula compared to some of their other adaptions.

Except they kept bragging about it and dropping hints that it was coming. I would love to see Tiana, Naveen, and "the shadow man" arrive.
 
Well yeah cause they wanted those ratings. But they made Ariel beyond useless, same with Ursula(s)
 
Well yeah cause they wanted those ratings. But they made Ariel beyond useless, same with Ursula(s)

no arguments there but from season 1 they teased and expressed love/interest in Ariel. I think that they found it too hard to fit her into the overall story once they were able to finally secure a bigger budget for the cgi. Either way she joins Cinderella and Ruby as beloved characters that unfortunately have to play third fiddle to the first and second tier main characters/family on the show.
 
no arguments there but from season 1 they teased and expressed love/interest in Ariel. I think that they found it too hard to fit her into the overall story once they were able to finally secure a bigger budget for the cgi. Either way she joins Cinderella and Ruby as beloved characters that unfortunately have to play third fiddle to the first and second tier main characters/family on the show.
And only to be featured as a random cameo.
 
Some of that has to do with the actors getting roles on other shows. Ruby was one who was offered a bigger role on another show and left before it got cancelled and she returned, albeit to a more of the same third tier importance.
 
Didn't even know season 4 was out on DVD/Blu Ray, gonna have to pick it up.

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So I finished season 2 a couple of days ago, and I have mixed feelings about it. I thought it started out strong, perhaps better then season 1, and was going well until they killed [BLACKOUT]Cora[/BLACKOUT]. Then things got extremely annoying and extremely stupid.

What I liked:
- Rumple continues to be awesome. Even when the writing seems to be missing the mark, Carlyle makes it work in context. Far more layered and complex then anyone on the show. My highlight of the season was his flashback with Belle. He had three extremely good one liners.

- Mama bear Snow.

- Emma not being "thrilled" to have finally found her family.

- Cora was rough in patches, especially her past imo. But, overall, she was a great villain. I loved the twist on her intentions with Regina.

- The entire giant situation, especially Jack.

- Ruby, when she got time, was fantastic this season imo.

- While it was convoluted, I feel like they handled the Emma, Baelfire, Rumple and Henry situation rather well.

- Charming is a huge improvment over his first season counterpart. I was totally digging him this season, especially in grand dad mode.

- Depressed Snow was adorable.

- Emma being scarred by her parents was great.

- Sarah Bolger as Aurora and Jamie Chung as Mulan. :atp:

- Regina's first days in Storybrooke.

- I hated Lacey, in a good way.

What I dislike:
- Regina is a poor character. One that is written in a horrible manner. She is a horrible person. Horrible. She killed people and continues to kill people. Yet we are suppose to sympathize with her? Her reasoning is horrible, her actions worse and yet, we keep her alive. She helped her mother murder someone in cold blood right in front of them, but it doesn't matter. On the same show as Rumple, she is all kinds of bad.

- Henry's strange 180 on Regina that started last season.

- Henry blaming magic for Regina being a horrible person. No, that is just a her thing.

- Black hearted Snow White. WTH? I have seen plenty of worse people, lose their hearts. Yet, never seen the black heart. But Snow does one questionable thing, that wasn't all that questionable to me, and she is black spotted? Beyond stupid.

- What is with the morality on killing on this show? I have seen Snow and Charming kill with impunity in the past, and yet now suddenly slicing off Hook, Regina or Cora's head would be a problem? WTH?

- Captain Hook is almost as bad as Regina as a character. The same goes with his odd plot armor. Both he and Regina should be dead by now.

- The "kill magic" storyline was atrocious. It felt extremely tacked on, with bad villains and just a whole lot of bad.

- Way, way too many characters started disappearing. Where did Ruby go in the second half of the season?
 
I think the problem with the turnaround on Henry/Regina was that they never really showed any layers in that relationship during season 1. It was pretty much consistently "I hate this b**** and I know she's the Evil Queen. Save me, birth mom!!!" It would've gone smoother if they gave any indication that he did actually love her in return, but knew she cursed everyone in town, knew she was lying to him and was pissed that she was trying to play it off like he was crazy.
 
What I dislike:
- Regina is a poor character. One that is written in a horrible manner. She is a horrible person. Horrible. She killed people and continues to kill people. Yet we are suppose to sympathize with her? Her reasoning is horrible, her actions worse and yet, we keep her alive. She helped her mother murder someone in cold blood right in front of them, but it doesn't matter. On the same show as Rumple, she is all kinds of bad.
And with all that, including the blaming everyone else for the stuff she's done, for some reason she has fans.
 
She's redeemed herself recently, but yeah, her fanbase annoys me.
 
I enjoy Regina. But I don't forget the Evil part of her name.
 
- Captain Hook is almost as bad as Regina as a character. The same goes with his odd plot armor. Both he and Regina should be dead by now.

- The "kill magic" storyline was atrocious. It felt extremely tacked on, with bad villains and just a whole lot of bad.

They do a lot of good work with Hook in season 3 that really turns his character around and solidifies his place in the show, IMO.

And they also deal with that storyline pretty early in season 3 in a way I think you will like. :cwink:
 
Watching the series from the beginning and a question that was never answered is whose heart was it in Snows jewlery box.
 
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