Abuse of Power Thread (Cops, Governments, Etc.)

[Victarion]

Breaking them with solitary would probably make them more inept criminals.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I don't care what you've done as a criminal nobody deserves to be locked in a cell so they can "broken" that is a disgusting way of thinking

 

[Docker2.0]

So you're telling me you think every 1 in 22 prisoners in TX did something to deserve to be in solitary? You don't think that number is high considering they house more people in solitary than 12 other states have in their prison system? That number doesn't seem ridiculous to you? I'm not complaining about the lifers or the death row people (except the ones who are eventually proven to be innocent) but places like TX will throw you in solitary for the most minor of infractions and that is cruel and inhumane. I understand why I was put in solitary because I was having a mental breakdown and they were unsure if I was a danger to myself or others but there has to be a better way than just locking someone up and letting them go bonkers. Something is wrong with the system, everyone knows prison just makes criminals better criminals and does jack for rehabilitating people. These for profit prisons are designed to be a revolving door so they can keep raking in the cash

I never said anything about Texas. I said in NJ it's like a daycamp so there needs to be some kind of deteriant. I do think it's kind of high but prison should be something that you don't want to go to or go back to. In NJ, it's not like that. Guys love it here. And I also stated depends on what the guy did. If a guy stole a piece of bread, then no he should not go there but raping his cellie or attacking staff..............most definetly!

 

[Tempest]

So you're telling me you think every 1 in 22 prisoners in TX did something to deserve to be in solitary? You don't think that number is high considering they house more people in solitary than 12 other states have in their prison system? That number doesn't seem ridiculous to you? I'm not complaining about the lifers or the death row people (except the ones who are eventually proven to be innocent) but places like TX will throw you in solitary for the most minor of infractions and that is cruel and inhumane. I understand why I was put in solitary because I was having a mental breakdown and they were unsure if I was a danger to myself or others but there has to be a better way than just locking someone up and letting them go bonkers. Something is wrong with the system, everyone knows prison just makes criminals better criminals and does jack for rehabilitating people. These for profit prisons are designed to be a revolving door so they can keep raking in the cash

Eh. I mean, ok. For some criminals, maybe having them go to some manners classes and giving them a daily scolding on why their behavior was bad would be good.

But 'rehab'? Come on.

Why should the victims of criminals have to pay to "help" them be better people?

 

[Greens]

Prison shouldn't be a day camp, it should be about rehabilitation and not wanting to come back but some guys love it there.

How does solitary confinement do anything to rehabilitate someone?

 

[John Shirley]

Odd to find this on the superhero thread--not that I object, i do think there's egregious abuse of power in policing--but since it's here, there seems to be a crazy abuse of power in the fictional world of THE FLASH...even though he's not a cop. I mean--shouldn't the show stand up for the right use of power?

sometimes i get exasperated when a show I like has some *unnecessary* laps in internal logic built into the series. In The FLASH it's this business of capturing these new super powered villains and putting them in special lockups in the basement of the scientific headquarters the Flash works out of...I mean, sure, it's a superhero story, it's not going to be realistic, but shouldn't The Flash stand up for justice, for what's right? And shouldn't he not be a gigantic LAW BREAKER? These villains are supposed to get A TRIAL; they're supposed to get representation; they're supposed to be legally convicted and put in chambers where they have access to toilets, where they are not prevented from taking exercise...I mean, these cells they're putting them in (illegally--actually breaking kidnap laws to do it) are more cruel and restrictive than high security at Pelican Bay. YES I know the prisoner's superpower is a problem--but that special circumstance could be worked around. The cells could be shown to have doors into other chambers, the cell complex could be accessed by judge and journey and attorneys. This could be shown in a few minutes, for internal logic--and most importantly so that The Flash is not breaking more laws than Batman ever did. Batman is constantly breaking laws against breaking and entering and vigilanteism but he never kept anyone in a cube

 

[Victarion]

Odd to find this on the superhero thread--not that I object, i do think there's egregious abuse of power in policing--but since it's here, there seems to be a crazy abuse of power in the fictional world of THE FLASH...even though he's not a cop. I mean--shouldn't the show stand up for the right use of power?

sometimes i get exasperated when a show I like has some *unnecessary* laps in internal logic built into the series. In The FLASH it's this business of capturing these new super powered villains and putting them in special lockups in the basement of the scientific headquarters the Flash works out of...I mean, sure, it's a superhero story, it's not going to be realistic, but shouldn't The Flash stand up for justice, for what's right? And shouldn't he not be a gigantic LAW BREAKER? These villains are supposed to get A TRIAL; they're supposed to get representation; they're supposed to be legally convicted and put in chambers where they have access to toilets, where they are not prevented from taking exercise...I mean, these cells they're putting them in (illegally--actually breaking kidnap laws to do it) are more cruel and restrictive than high security at Pelican Bay. YES I know the prisoner's superpower is a problem--but that special circumstance could be worked around. The cells could be shown to have doors into other chambers, the cell complex could be accessed by judge and journey and attorneys. This could be shown in a few minutes, for internal logic--and most importantly so that The Flash is not breaking more laws than Batman ever did. Batman is constantly breaking laws against breaking and entering and vigilanteism but he never kept anyone in a cube

I don't want to watch a superhero show with a plaster saint for the main character.

@DJ: If that's something that you consider inhumane, then clearly something needs to be done with our prison system that works as a deterrent, albeit a humane sort of deterrent. An extremely stringent rehab of some kind, maybe. Would you also consider the lingering presence of these sort of punishments like solitary an abuse of power? I would.

 

[Docker2.0]

How does solitary confinement do anything to rehabilitate someone?

How does spanking a kid or making them go to timeout work?

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Eh. I mean, ok. For some criminals, maybe having them go to some manners classes and giving them a daily scolding on why their behavior was bad would be good.

But 'rehab'? Come on.

Why should the victims of criminals have to pay to "help" them be better people?

It's been proven time and time again when a country uses the penal system to rehabilitate their offenders the likelihood of them re-offending drops dramatically. The for-profit system here in America just makes better criminals

 

[Tanin]

'Teacher of the year' in Washington accused of raping student

A SeaTac, Wash. teacher is facing child rape charges after allegations surfaced that she sexually abused a former student living in her home.

Prosecutors contend that Darcy M. Smith, 41, first had sex with the boy when he was 14 and living in her home, according to KOMO News.

The young man told police that Smith, his sixth grade teacher, brought him into her home at age 12 and started to abuse him the following year in 2008. The young man told police that they first had sex when he was 14, and that the abuse continued until he moved out of Smith's home at age 18.
http://abc7.com/news/teacher-of-the-year-in-washington-accused-of-raping-student-/506975/

 

[Teelie]

This and that other story are increasingly making teachers look like child molesters.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

It's giving the catholic priest a run for their money that's for sure

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

UPDATE: Rookie NYPD Officer Indicted for Killing Unarmed Brooklyn Man

Peter Liang, the rookie NYPD officer who fatally shot an unarmed man in the stairwell of a Brooklyn housing project last year, has been indicted for the killing, according to sources who spoke with the New York Daily News and Pix11.

On the night of November 20, Liang killed Akai Gurley, 28, at the the Pink Houses, a housing project in East New York. Gurley and his girlfriend were walking in one of the building's stairwells when they encountered Liang and his partner. Liang, who reportedly drew his gun immediately after entering the darkened stairwell, fired one shot, striking Gurley. The 28-year-old, later described by police commissioner Bill Bratton as a "total innocent," made it down two flights of stairs before losing consciousness; he was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital early the next morning.

Liang is expected to turn himself in sometime on Wednesday, according to the Daily News. The exact charges have not been released yet.

http://www.nydailynews.com/involved...ource=***********&utm_campaign=oyaniv+twitter

Good to see charges are being filed

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Lawsuit: Cop Beat Pregnant Woman, Causing Miscarriage

An excessive force lawsuit filed in Georgia this month claims that a police officer slammed a pregnant woman to the ground so hard she blacked out, causing her to miscarry, allegedly because the officer didn't like her tone of voice.

According to the lawsuit, the incident occurred when Kenya Harris' minor son was arrested in Albany, Georgia in 2011. After 5 hours at the Albany Police Department, Harris says she insisted she leave to take care of her other children, angering the officer. From Courthouse News:

"Defendant Officer Jenkins stated that he did not appreciate the tone in which she was communicating with him, and further stated that if she continued he would take her head and 'put it to the floor,'" the complaint states.

Harris says when she again tried to explain that she needed to leave, Jenkins followed through on his threat.

"Defendant Officer Jenkins, without provocation, grabbed plaintiff, who weighs less than one hundred twenty (120) pounds, by her neck and slammed her to the ground. Plaintiff momentarily blacked out and came to with defendant Officer Jenkins sitting on her back, and with his knee on her arm. Plaintiff was pregnant at the time."

Subsequently arrested on obstruction of justice charges, Harris says that she was denied medical attention, only learning she had miscarried after making bail and seeking care.

Harris now requests $50,000 and punitive damages, arguing that the officer caused "her severe physical harm and the loss of her baby, when less force was required and should have been used."

Saying the city has yet to be served, attorneys for Albany told WFXL they could not comment on the case.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/georgia-woman-says-police-beat-her-causing-miscarr/nj9ST/

If true that is pretty horrible

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Judge Indicted for Alleged Racist Attack on Mentally Disabled Man

This week, a Mississippi grand jury indicted Justice Court Judge Bill Weisenberger for felony assault on a vulnerable adult after he allegedly struck a mentally disabled black man and yelled, "Run, n****r, run."

According to WAPT, multiple witnesses report seeing the judge attack 20-year-old Eric Rivers while screaming racial slurs at a flea market in Canton, Mississippi last May. Weisenberger claims Rivers made "negative comments to his mother."

Since then, the judge has faced additional accusations of misconduct. From The Clarion-Ledger:

Weisenberger also had a lawsuit filed against both him and the county in November. The attorney for Charles Plumpp said Weisenberger arrested and jailed her client, who is African American, on the nonexistence charge of "roaming livestock."

While the judge voluntarily stepped down from his position last June, the Ledger reports that Weisenberger is currently seeking re-election.

http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2015/feb/13/white-judge-accused-assault-race-abuse-indicted/

Racist a**hole

 

[Teelie]

Bystander’s video shows cops shooting, killing fleeing man

A little late on this one. Was reported on the 12th.

Washington state police are investigating a video uploaded to YouTube that captures the death of a man shot repeatedly by police.

The video, taken by a bystander, surfaced Wednesday, a day after the Tuesday shooting death of Antonio Zambrano-Montes, 35.

Pasco Police Department officers were called about 5pm to respond to a report that a man was throwing rocks at a crowded intersection in the town of Pasco, according to the Department Chief Bob Metzger. Two officers were hit by rocks. A Taser did not subdue the man, who had a prior police assault conviction and served six months' jail time for it.

The video, which sparked protests, shows police firing at the man then chasing him across a busy intersection and shooting him multiple more times. About a dozen shots were fired, according to the video.

Metzger said it would take months before the investigation, conducted by another department, would conclude.

“We are at this point doing a thorough investigation. If the officers are wrong they will be dealt with accordingly. If they are not wrong, that will also come out.”

The video is among a recent wave of footage uploaded to YouTube capturing police-involved shootings. The videos have come from a variety of sources, taken by bystanders and police officer dash or body cams. This latest video comes amid a growing outcry from the public demanding more accountability of police in the wake of the August shooting death of an unarmed 18-year-old boy in Ferguson, Missouri. One solution, offered from as high as President Barack Obama, is to outfit police officers with body cameras. Law enforcement departments have been gobbling up these devices following Ferguson, in which victim Michael Brown's death was not videotaped.

The American Civil Liberties Union said in a statement that the Pasco video was "very disturbing."

“Fleeing from police and not following an officer’s command should not be sufficient for a person to get shot. Lethal force should be used only as an absolute last resort," said Kathleen Taylor, the ACLU executive director of Washington. "Police need to understand how to de-escalate confrontations and use force only as necessary."

A Pasco resident, Benjamin Patrick, told the Seattle Times that he saw Zambrano-Montes yelling at the police. He said he saw the victim pull a stun-gun dart from his arm. He then began walking across the busy street.

"That’s when they started shooting," Patrick said, recalling about five shots. "I could not believe they were shooting guns. There were cars and people everywhere.”

He said the man was shot while walking across the street. "I saw him react, sort of jump, like he’d been stung by a bee," he said. But the man kept walking and police continued tailing him, he said.

The video shows the man turning toward police, as if he was going to throw more rocks. A second volley of shots rings out and Zambrano-Montes falls to the pavement.

Police told the paper they had to fire because they were threatened.

The Pasco Police Department said the officers involved in the shooting included Ryan Flanagan, Adam Wright, and Adrian Alaniz. The officers, placed on paid leave, have 19 years of law enforcement experience combined.

Ars Technica

 

[Teelie]

Federal court to hear Alabama school 'rape bait' case

And another on a girl who was used as rape bait by a teacher. The school did everything it could to distance itself from taking any responsibility whatsoever. Despite this kid having at least 13 incidents in 2 years on file for sexual and/or violent misconduct.

It's been five years since a 14-year-old Alabama girl with special needs said she was persuaded by a teacher's aide to act as bait to catch an accused sexual predator.

The girl's life was changed forever, she said, when the accused predator, a fellow student, allegedly sodomized her in a school bathroom.

"I just felt like I was set up by the teachers. They gave me a word that they couldn't keep," said the woman, who asked CNN to call her "Jaden."

In 2010, Jaden's father filed a lawsuit against Madison County Schools and its officials, and after years of legal battles, Jaden, now 19, will have her day in federal court.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit has agreed to hear oral arguments in the case.

"We look forward to discussing this case with the Judges who will be deciding it and ultimately letting a jury decide this matter," said Eric Artrip, the attorney representing the girl and her father. "It has essentially devastated her life."

Background

According to court records, a 16-year-old student approached Jaden in the hallway of Sparkman Middle School in Toney, Alabama, on January 22, 2010, and asked her to meet him in a bathroom for sex.

It was not the first time the boy had propositioned her, said Jaden, who was enrolled in the school's special education program.

Usually, she ignored him, but on that day Jaden told a friend, who suggested she tell a teacher's aide what was happening. The aide, June Ann Simpson, knew of other girls whom the boy had tried to lure into a bathroom for sex, according the lawsuit.

Simpson told the school's principal, Ronnie Blair, about the allegations.

According to a 2012 deposition, Blair told Simpson the boy would have to be proven guilty to be punished. In response, Simpson crafted a plan to prove the allegations, using Jaden as bait.

The idea was to have the girl agree to meet the boy in a bathroom. Simpson would watch surveillance video, and teachers would intervene before anything happened.

"I told her no. I didn't want to do it," Jaden told CNN.

She acquiesced later that day, she said, explaining, "I just wanted it to stop."

'He just gets away with it'

Key questions in her case center around who knew what, and when.

Jaden and Simpson claim they went to the office of vice-principal Jeanne Dunaway, and when Simpson told Dunaway about the plan, she said, Dunaway did not respond. During a deposition, Dunaway denied the conversation happened.

Jaden then left Dunaway's office and found the boy in the hallway to tell him they could "do it," Jaden told CNN.

Simpson stayed behind to watch surveillance monitors, hoping to catch the two walk into the bathroom. She never saw them.

According to Jaden's written statement after the incident, the boy made a last-minute change. Instead of meeting in the boys' bathroom on the special needs students' corridor, the boy allegedly told the girl to meet him in the sixth-grade boys' bathroom, in another part of the school.

Once there, Jaden says she tried to stall the boy, hoping a teacher would rush in. She told him she didn't want to have sex, and she tried blocking him, according to her 2012 deposition. Nothing worked.

The boy sodomized her, Jaden said.

"I thought they were going to do what they said they were going to do -- and be there and stop him -- just get him in trouble," Jaden told CNN.

13 incidents

The alleged attacker was never charged, and the case was never presented to a grand jury, according to Madison County District Attorney Robert Broussard.

The incident was characterized as "inappropriate (sic) touching a girl in boys bathroom," according to school disciplinary records. The boy was suspended from school for five days and sent to an alternative school for a short time.

The alleged attack was at least the 13th incident of sexual or violent misconduct in the boy's file, all within two academic years. While at the alternative school, the boy was suspended for sharing pornographic images on a cell phone.

He was eventually allowed to return to Sparkman Middle School, where Jaden was still enrolled.

"He just gets away with it, I guess," she told CNN.

June Ann Simpson resigned shortly after the incident.

"My client has gone from being a teacher's aide to being a scapegoat," attorney McGriff Belser III told CNN.

Dunaway is now the principal at nearby Madison County Elementary School.

'Hard for me to have good days'

In 2013, a district court judge allowed the father's claims of state violations, including negligence, against Simpson and Dunaway. The judge tossed out the federal claims -- that the school district violated Title IX and that Simpson and school administrators deprived the girl of her civil rights.

Title IX is a federal law aimed at ending sexual discrimination in education. In part, it dictates how schools that receive federal funds must respond to claims of sexual harassment.

Both sides have appealed.

"(Judge T. Michael Putnam) found the board of education's policies were proper. He found that the school administrators took appropriate action and complied completely with federal law as soon as they were notified of this unfortunate incident," attorney Mark Boardman told reporters in 2014.

Boardman's firm represents Madison County Schools and the administrators named in the 2010 lawsuit.

The firm has not responded to numerous calls for an interview. CNN reached out last year, when it first reported the story, and this week, as the network sought comment on the federal court agreeing to hear the case.

In 2014, the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division submitted a 126-page amicus brief to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit, disagreeing with the district judge's order.

The brief, submitted jointly with the U.S. Department of Education, argues the school, in its capacity as a recipient of federal funds is "liable for (its) deliberate indifference to known acts of peer sexual harassment."

"If Title IX imposes any responsibility on school officials to prevent sexual harassment, it surely requires a response when they learn, as here, that a 14-year-old special needs student is about to be used as bait to catch a 16-year-old student with an extensive history of sexual and violent misconduct," federal attorneys wrote in the brief.

"I get angry faster"

On the same day the federal brief was submitted, the Women's Law Project, joined by 32 national and local organizations, submitted a brief supporting the family's lawsuit. The National Women's Law Center and Artrip, the family's attorney, have also submitted a brief to the Eleventh Circuit.

"It means a lot. It says that people actually care about what happens," Jaden told CNN

Months after the incident, the teen transferred to a school district out of state, but eventually dropped out of school before graduating. Jaden continues to struggle, she said.

"It's hard for me to have good days," she told CNN. "I have days to where I just want to sit there by myself. I get angry faster, and I get insecure."

Asked what might help her, she stressed the importance of justice and closure.

"By actually having our day in court and letting everything be known, so that it won't happen again," Jaden said.

A date for her case has not yet been set, but the court will likely hear oral arguments within three to five months, according the clerk's office.

CNN

 

[Teelie]

St. Louis officer under fire for turning off dashcam video during arrest

A St. Louis man has filed a lawsuit alleging excessive force in a case that involves an officer turning off a dashcam video of that man's arrest.

At one point in the video, a female officer can be heard saying: "Hold up, everybody, hold up. We're red right now so if you guys are worried about cameras just wait."

The phrase "we're red right now" indicates that a camera is recording.

A second dashcam continued to record.

Video of the April arrest shows officers stopping a vehicle being driven by Cortez Bufford, whose car roughly matched the description of one possibly involved in an area shooting.

As officers approached the vehicle, they ordered Bufford and his passenger to show their hands. They did.

According to the police report, one officer smelled marijuana and saw what looked to be plastic baggies full of a leafy green substance.

The passenger was ordered from the vehicle, and he was handcuffed without incident.

Bufford was also ordered to exit the vehicle, but he refused and became increasingly agitated, according to the report. He was then removed.

While officers attempted to place him in handcuffs, one saw the handle of a handgun sticking out of Bufford's right front pocket. According to the report, Bufford was seen reaching for the weapon.

The video then shows officers kicking Bufford while he is on the ground. According to his suit, Bufford suffered abrasions to his fingers, face, back, head, ears and neck. He was handcuffed after an officer used a Taser on him.

A fully loaded handgun was later removed from Bufford's pocket.

An attorney representing the city and the Police Department defended the officers' actions in the arrest, while condemning the officer who turned off the dashcam, which is against department policy.

"The officers were not acting out of line at any time during the arrest. The person involved in this altercation had a semi-automatic gun, and the officers were protecting themselves and the public. They did what had to be done to protect themselves," Winston Calvert told CNN.

He said the use of force and the dashcam issues are separate. The officer who shut off the dashcam video was referred to an internal affairs department, Calvert said.

"The city's Police Department has a policy on the use of dash cameras and other cameras, and the Police Department special order says the cameras should be left on until the event the concluded. When we saw that an officer had violated that policy, it was very disappointing," he said. "The internal affairs recommended discipline for the officer, which is what happened."

Because the case is still open to appeal, Calvert declined to say what the punishment was. He said the officer remains on the job while her appeal is underway. A call to the officer's lawyer was not returned.

Attorney Joel Schwartz, who represents Bufford, is urging reform. All of the charges against his client have been dismissed. It wasn't immediately clear why.

"I don't think an officer on the scene should have the capability to stop the camera from rolling. Otherwise it defeats the entire purpose of having body cameras and or dashcams," Schwartz said.

CNN

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

The cops should not have any way to turn off the cameras

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Alleged Police Brutality Victim Caught on Camera Punching Self in Face

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=30703091&postcount=353

Posted over in the stupid thread but it just goes to show that not only do cameras protect the citizens from abuses of power but cameras also protect the cops doing the right thing from idiots trying to game the sytem

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

The Chicago Police Department Has Its Very Own CIA-Style "Black Site"

In an investigation published Tuesday, the Guardian's Spencer Ackerman reports on the existence of a warehouse in Chicago called Homan Square, where police take suspects to keep them out of official databases, deny them legal counsel, and beat them.

Nobody taken to Homan Square is booked, Ackerman reports. "It's sort of an open secret among attorneys that regularly make police station visits, this place—if you can't find a client in the system, odds are they're there," said Julia Bartmes, a Chicago laywer. Reportedly, lawyers who come to Homan Square looking for their clients are often turned away.

"They just disappear," criminal defense attorney Anthony Hill said, "until they show up at a district for charging or are just released back out on the street." Homan Square is "a place of interrogation off the books," Hill said.

When societies allow places like Guantánamo Bay or Abu Ghraib to exist, the practices that flourish there end up being reproduced elsewhere, theorizes criminologist Tracy Siska, executive director of the Chicago Justice Project, told Ackerman: "They creep into domestic law enforcement, either with weaponry like with the militarization of police, or interrogation practices. That's how we ended up with a black site in Chicago."

Siska put what Ackerman found in further context in a Q&A with the Atlantic. "99 percent of the people from this site are involved in some form of street crime: gang activities, drugs—urban violent crime," he said. "That's what makes the site even worse. It takes Guantanamo-style tactics on urban street criminals and shreds the Bill of Rights."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site

Well that is disturbing

 

[Teelie]

It's Chicago where they are known for corruption and sometimes brutal police actions but that still sounds disturbing indeed.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

The corruption is pretty systematic if this black site is common knowledge for lawyers and nothing is done to stop it.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

A black site for black people? What's the problem? It's like Club Med right?

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Cops Are Using Stingray Surveillance for Minor Crimes Like 911 Hangups

Florida police are using Stingray tracking devices—powerful surveillance tools cloaked in secrecy, capable of hoovering data from the phones of anyone in a wide search area—to catch thousands of suspects, even in low-level crimes like 911 hangups.

Documents published by the ACLU this week show how widespread Stingray use is in Florida among local law enforcement. Ars Technica's Cyrus Farivar dissected why the tight-lipped use of these spy devices, which sweep up information from bystanders as well as police targets, is so sketchy:

The trove of documents, which were published earlier this week by the American Civil Liberties Union, show that while police agencies often justify the purchase of such hardware in the name of counter-terrorism—none of the hundreds of disclosed uses involves terrorism.

As Farivar pointed out, court documents reveal burglary, robbery, and theft as the most common Stingray uses. This makes the lack of regard for the privacy of bystanders even more abrasive. For people living in Florida, the state may very well be violating your legal rights not to catch the next Bin Laden, but to catch the dip**** who pranked 911.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...ays-used-to-go-after-911-hangup-atm-burglary/

Well that is a bunch of BS but I'm not surprised FL is leading the way in this stupidity and violation of my rights