Comics According to a poll in Wizard #180...*Possible Large SPOILER*

[iloveclones]

Spidey makes much more sense in the FF than he does in the Avengers, and I like him in the Avengers. Since it looks like Ben will be going to Canada, it might be interesting to see Pete, MJ, and Aunt May hanging their hat there. Johnny's relationship with Pete is very similar to that of Ben. I don't know that they're going to do this, but it would make a nice bridge until Ben gets sick of watching Degrassi on CTV.

 

[OtepApe]

Out of all the teams I could see Spidey on the F4 most. However, if Spidey does in someway sawp sides during Civil War, that means he probably won't be on a team with Reed anytime soon.

Plus, Spidey on F4 means even more of JMS writing Spidey

 

[shinlyle]

Personally, I'd like to see Spidey on NO team whatsoever. Whenever he's out into a team setting, he's treated as a total idiot. He never get's treated as a respectable veteran. Look at New Avengers. He's been unmasked a couple of times, mind-raped, and had his arm broken by JIGSAW, of all the losers out there.

Nope. Give me a solo Spidey anyday.

 

[OtepApe]

Whilst I agree with you. I also think it's just Bendis who writes Spidey like a total idiot, example New Avengers, Sevret War.

Personally I don't, nor have ever wanted Spidey on a team.

 

[Eddie Brock]

Personally, I'd like to see Spidey on NO team whatsoever. Whenever he's out into a team setting, he's treated as a total idiot. He never get's treated as a respectable veteran. Look at New Avengers. He's been unmasked a couple of times, mind-raped, and had his arm broken by JIGSAW, of all the losers out there.

Nope. Give me a solo Spidey anyday.

this is true, but if we HAVE to endure Spider-Man on a team, let's have it be a good one

 

[MyPokerShirt]

Out of all the teams I could see Spidey on the F4 most. However, if Spidey does in someway sawp sides during Civil War, that means he probably won't be on a team with Reed anytime soon.

Plus, Spidey on F4 means even more of JMS writing Spidey

If johnny survives and sue and reed split, maybe the FF will have johnny and sue on it and not reed though. Just a thought. After all you don't NEED reed richards on the team. That'd free up a space for she-hulk and spider-man, maybe (with thing and reed both gone).

 

[MaxCarnage]

Get Spidey out of the teams. I think he shined the brightest as a character when he was a misunderstood loner.

 

[KingOfDreams]

You can't say that. She-Hulk was as much a part of the FF down the years. And their roster has changed. It always will. Spider-Man being a part of it would be very cool. He was the first man to apply, if you remember. He deserves a run in the FF IMO. At least that would get Bendis away from him. Also if Johnny Storm dies who better to replace him than a friend? Or if Sue leaves who better to work along side Johnny?? Oh wait... Thing's already gone... You get the point. They need a new member as it stands.

To me the real FF is only the original four. What Marvel is doing to these characters is just boggling my mind. For some reason this stuff seems worse than anything they've done to shake things up in the past.

 

[KingOfDreams]

After all you don't NEED reed richards on the team.

What the hell? Of course you do. The team wouldn't be the same without him. They wouldn't have done nearly as much or discovered nearly as much without him. They wouldn't even be a team without him. It was Reed's idea to become a superteam in the first place. That's not to say the rest aren't important. They're all very important.

 

[KingOfDreams]

Get Spidey out of the teams. I think he shined the brightest as a character when he was a misunderstood loner.

Agreed. Civil War should be used to make Spidey a loner again.

 

[Superbeasto]

i loved when She hulk was part of the Fantastic Four, a long time ago, ooo, those days

 

[Won '08]

Has no one seen the precursors of Onslaught: Reborn in this whole Civil War deal?

 

[stillanerd]

Personally, I'd like to see Spidey on NO team whatsoever. Whenever he's out into a team setting, he's treated as a total idiot. He never get's treated as a respectable veteran. Look at New Avengers. He's been unmasked a couple of times, mind-raped, and had his arm broken by JIGSAW, of all the losers out there.

Nope. Give me a solo Spidey anyday.

Abso-fricking-loutely! Spider-Man works best when he IS a solo hero because, as a hard luck misunderstood superhero, in then makes sense that he doesn't get any respect from the "professionals." If he is on a team, it implies that he's good enough in the "professional heroes" eyes to be a part of the big leagues. Plus he's supposed to be an outsider, someone who doesn't necessarily comply with "the rules" of "big leaguers" like the Fantastic Four or the Avengers. This should've been quite evident in the first issue of Amazing Spider-Man #1 and the Amazing Spider-Man Annual #3. The idea that Spidey would STILL be a member of an Avengers team after what's been happening to him during Civil War and especially the Unmasking doesn't make any sense to me. If anything, it should have reaffirmed his idea that being part of a team where one has to tow a certain line is more trouble for him than it's worth.

 

[freemadison]

Has no one seen the precursors of Onslaught: Reborn in this whole Civil War deal?

I don't know jack about Onslaught:Reborn. Explain precursors if you have the time please.

Abso-fricking-loutely! Spider-Man works best when he IS a solo hero because, as a hard luck misunderstood superhero, in then makes sense that he doesn't get any respect from the "professionals". If he is on a team, it implies that he's good enough in the "professional heroes" eyes to be a part of the big leagues. Plus he's supposed to be an outsider, someone who doesn't necessarily comply with "the rules" of "big leaguers" like the Fantastic Four or the Avengers. This should've been quite evident in the first issue of Amazing Spider-Man #1 and the Amazing Spider-Man Annual #3.

I think you're right. How old is Spider-Man now? 15? 16? What a rank amateur. It's not like he's teamed up with everyone and their mama...or matured at all in the last 40 years...or beat Firelord and left the Avengers to pick up the pieces...

The idea that Spidey would STILL be a member of an Avengers team after what's been happening to him during Civil War and especially the Unmasking doesn't make any sense to me. If anything, it should have reaffirmed his idea that being part of a team where one has to tow a certain line is more trouble for him than it's worth.

You're absolutely correct about that imo. Although, he might align himself with the New Avengers in order to help protect his family (assuming he has some left when Civil War is over), which ironically was part of why he aligned with Stark.

Personally, I think Spidey should be a solo hero. However, him being on a team doesn't strike me as being completely out of character nor do I think he lacks the respect of his peers (if anything, I think he actually pulls respect).

 

[Maximum Carnage]

I don't. The FF is Reed, Ben, Sue and Johnny. Nobody else.

Yeah .. no FF for Spidey, thank you.

 

[shinlyle]

Has no one seen the precursors of Onslaught: Reborn in this whole Civil War deal?

Have no clue what's going on in Onslaught:Reborn , but that would make for an easy fix to this whole pooch-screw...

 

[MyPokerShirt]

What the hell? Of course you do. The team wouldn't be the same without him. They wouldn't have done nearly as much or discovered nearly as much without him. They wouldn't even be a team without him. It was Reed's idea to become a superteam in the first place. That's not to say the rest aren't important. They're all very important.

They went without him for long enough. Didn't he die or something?? Just becuase he's part of what's defined the team doesn't mean the team dynamic can't change and be redefined. We all know Reed is a very important man in the marvel universe...blah blah blah, but currently he's wearing an asshat and the Thing won't work with him, soon sue won't and I can't see johnny going anywhere near his uncaring ass (which, as already stated, is firmly on his head). Just seems like the FF as we know it won't be working with reed (IMO) post civil war and so what defines the FF? Reed? I don't think so. A team with sue and johnny on it is more likely to be called the FF, just with some new members. Hence you don't need Reed, for the time-being, post civil war anyway. Hence my analogy. Don't get all reed richards fanboy on me now

 

[stillanerd]

I think you're right. How old is Spider-Man now? 15? 16? What a rank amateur. It's not like he's teamed up with everyone and their mama...or matured at all in the last 40 years...or beat Firelord and left the Avengers to pick up the pieces...

Love the sarcasm and yes, if he's good enough to partner up with other Marvel heroes a la Marvel Team-Up, not to mention being a part of all kinds of crisises a la Secret Wars and Infinty Gaunlet and what not, hasn't he already proved himself?

You're absolutely correct about that imo. Although, he might align himself with the New Avengers in order to help protect his family (assuming he has some left when Civil War is over), which ironically was part of why he aligned with Stark.

Personally, I think Spidey should be a solo hero. However, him being on a team doesn't strike me as being completely out of character nor do I think he lacks the respect of his peers (if anything, I think he actually pulls respect).

That does make sense, but I'm more inclined to think that such experiences from Civil War would make him disgusted of team-dynamics for awhile. And the way he's been portrayed recently, his peers don't seem to have respect for him, partly because they can't stand his cornball humor (sort of how the Flash was depicted in the Justice League cartoon).

 

[KingOfDreams]

They went without him for long enough. Didn't he die or something?? Just becuase he's part of what's defined the team doesn't mean the team dynamic can't change and be redefined. We all know Reed is a very important man in the marvel universe...blah blah blah, but currently he's wearing an asshat and the Thing won't work with him, soon sue won't and I can't see johnny going anywhere near his uncaring ass (which, as already stated, is firmly on his head). Just seems like the FF as we know it won't be working with reed (IMO) post civil war and so what defines the FF? Reed? I don't think so. A team with sue and johnny on it is more likely to be called the FF, just with some new members. Hence you don't need Reed, for the time-being, post civil war anyway. Hence my analogy. Don't get all reed richards fanboy on me now

Yeah, I know all this is happening. But I don't like it and I'm trying to ignore it and maybe even block the truth from myself. It's painful to see my beloved FF break up like this. Something tells me, if they want to continue the current behavior of Reed, that he'd take some legal action to gain control of the Fantastic Four name to prevent the others from using it. And yeah, Reed did "die" but in truth he was transported to some other dimension. The FF has had a few different incarnations and with Reed gone Sue did prove to be a capable leader but the team never broke up like this before. This development to me seems more permanant. Yes, even more permanant than any "death." Don't ask me why. And yes, I know the statsu quo will return eventually but that doesn't mean I can't complain about story and character "development" I don't like.

 

[Venomfan]

I think you're right. How old is Spider-Man now? 15? 16? What a rank amateur. It's not like he's teamed up with everyone and their mama...or matured at all in the last 40 years...or beat Firelord and left the Avengers to pick up the pieces...

or made the FF and the X-men look like amateurs when hes fought against them, so if he can do that on his own, hes too powerful to be on one of those teams, its like superman on the justice league IMO, like doesnt he make everyone else useless

 

[Venomfan]

well one good thing about if he did go on the FF, if reed or ben are gone, that means he gets to be the brain or the muscles, and he hasnt done much of that in a long time

 

[freemadison]

well one good thing about if he did go on the FF, if reed or ben are gone, that means he gets to be the brain or the muscles, and he hasnt done much of that in a long time

i never even thought of it that way. Personally, I'd like to see him be the brains of the operation.

 

[Dangerous]

Wizard doesn't suck, they give some pretty cool interviews and previews that you can't get anywhere else.

They're getting better now compared to what they were like a few years ago- not wanting to say anything that might get them out of favour w/ creators.

 

[Dangerous]

Spidey makes much more sense in the FF than he does in the Avengers, and I like him in the Avengers. Since it looks like Ben will be going to Canada, it might be interesting to see Pete, MJ, and Aunt May hanging their hat there. Johnny's relationship with Pete is very similar to that of Ben. I don't know that they're going to do this, but it would make a nice bridge until Ben gets sick of watching Degrassi on CTV.

The only way Spidey makes sense is on his own as a loner.

 

[iloveclones]

The only way Spidey makes sense is on his own as a loner.

Oh, I didn't know that. I guess it's time to get rid of MJ then.