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do any of you think they will spice up the action for the movie?

one scene in particular I am thinking of is when ozymandias is talking about his fight with the comedian he just describes it, and i think it would be cool to see instead

but like the encounters with Moloch or something do you think they will add a bit to the action for theatrical purposes?
 
They will spice it up as much as possible...one of the drafts even had an Archie Chase scene.
 
thats sweet

I love the comic I wouldn't be against putting these guys in action a bit more however
 
do any of you think they will spice up the action for the movie?

one scene in particular I am thinking of is when ozymandias is talking about his fight with the comedian he just describes it, and i think it would be cool to see instead

but like the encounters with Moloch or something do you think they will add a bit to the action for theatrical purposes?

I hope the bits of action are altered a bit -- but just so long as it ain't done all Bret Ratner-like (which I'm not too worried about given that Snyder is directing).

One thing that always baffled me about the comic: Rorschach is described as a brilliant in a tactical sense -- and yet when he attempts to take down Veidt, he like tries to stab him with a fork. WTF? That scene, for one, could do with some sexing-up.
 
Hopefully they won't go too far trying to add action. One scene that always bugged me in the drafts I have is that when Rorschach meets with Manhatten and Sally, the blue Doc just pulls a random "excuse me while I go save the world" moment and goes and stops a missle. It just seems like a bad attempt to show off Manhatten's powers.
 
Hopefully they won't go too far trying to add action. One scene that always bugged me in the drafts I have is that when Rorschach meets with Manhatten and Sally, the blue Doc just pulls a random "excuse me while I go save the world" moment and goes and stops a missle. It just seems like a bad attempt to show off Manhatten's powers.

that is actually what I think I would like to see...i think

just like go beyond the page just a tad bit to explore the world they live in and their talents and exploits
 
This thing is gonna be hard enough to squeeze into a 120/150-odd minute running time as it is.

Why waste precious enough screen time on dropping what's there on the page and substituting it with extraneous action scenes?

Unless, of course, it's all for the sake of two words.
DUMBING. DOWN.
 
Who said anything about dropping and substituting?

I mean, come on, the book isn't perfect. If they can make something translate better on-film, I'm all for it.

-TNC
 
This thing is gonna be hard enough to squeeze into a 120/150-odd minute running time as it is.

Why waste precious enough screen time on dropping what's there on the page and substituting it with extraneous action scenes?

Unless, of course, it's all for the sake of two words.
DUMBING. DOWN.

I'm not saying dumbing down by any means

I'm just saying they don't show the watchmen or minutemen, or moloch really in action all that much, and it would be cool to see that

like the riot scene with Nite Owl and Rorshach its a flashback, show them kicking some ass or something

or show Comedian going off in Nam

like you said even if the movie runs 150 minutes there is still gunna be a **** done left out, so I guess I wouldn't be all that opposed to adding to what you got
 
I don't think the Comedian is going to go out like a punk, I think he's going to have a nice brawl in the beginning before he goes concrete diving.

Busting Rorschach out of prison should be pretty exciting too, seeing him do some serious damage to his fellow inmates is one of the things I've been looking forward to.
 
I don't the Comedian is going to go out like a punk, I think the he's going to have a nice brawl in the beginning before he goes concrete diving.

Busting Rorschach out of prison should be pretty exciting too, seeing him do some serious damage to his fellow inmates is one the things I've been looking forward to.

Word.
 
I don't think the Comedian is going to go out like a punk, I think the he's going to have a nice brawl in the beginning before he goes concrete diving.

Busting Rorschach out of prison should be pretty exciting too, seeing him do some serious damage to his fellow inmates is one the things I've been looking forward to.


the prison break should be solid
 
that is actually what I think I would like to see...i think

just like go beyond the page just a tad bit to explore the world they live in and their talents and exploits

Oh I don't mind that at all. It's just in that particular scene it seemed to convienent and forced. It was a "here's Dr. Manhatten, let's show you what he can do..." type of thing that bugged me.
 
Oh I don't mind that at all. It's just in that particular scene it seemed to convienent and forced. It was a "here's Dr. Manhatten, let's show you what he can do..." type of thing that bugged me.

that's fair, however i am not against a sweet missile chase, if it isn't forced
 
that's fair, however i am not against a sweet missile chase, if it isn't forced

I doubt Manhattan would bother to actually chase the missile rather than just dismantle it from afar.

Manhattan doesn't have to have "action"-scenes, but I wouldn't mind if they beefed up his metaphysical powers to make him more powerful and in control, but not necessarily determined to act on it.
 
I doubt Manhattan would bother to actually chase the missile rather than just dismantle it from afar.

Manhattan doesn't have to have "action"-scenes, but I wouldn't mind if they beefed up his metaphysical powers to make him more powerful and in control, but not necessarily determined to act on it.

well he clearly chooses to ether use physical powers or not

like when he grows big and crashes through Ozymandias' place instead of just appearing
 
"Visited two bars before this. You may have heard ambulances."

Perhaps a couple of quick kick-ass Owl/Rorschach team fights will be added? :yay:
 
Hopefully they won't go too far trying to add action. One scene that always bugged me in the drafts I have is that when Rorschach meets with Manhatten and Sally, the blue Doc just pulls a random "excuse me while I go save the world" moment and goes and stops a missle. It just seems like a bad attempt to show off Manhatten's powers.

I remember that, it sucked.

As far as action goes, they really don't need to spice it up. The reason that I think people don't think of it as action intensive is that most of the action happens between the juxtaposition of static panels, in the gutter as McCloud would say. Moore and Gibbons were not going after dynamic splash pages, they were intentionally making it meditative and, as some have pointed out, claustrophobic. Once you see scenes like Rorschach's showdown at Jacobi's, Mason's death, the prison break, the riots, or even the fire rescue in motion the movie will have more than enough action to satisfy. Keep it the way it is, allow it to focus more on the politics and the characters, that's what makes it so appealing.
 
As far as action goes, they really don't need to spice it up. The reason that I think people don't think of it as action intensive is that most of the action happens between the juxtaposition of static panels, in the gutter as McCloud would say. Moore and Gibbons were not going after dynamic splash pages, they were intentionally making it meditative and, as some have pointed out, claustrophobic. Once you see scenes like Rorschach's showdown at Jacobi's, Mason's death, the prison break, the riots, or even the fire rescue in motion the movie will have more than enough action to satisfy. Keep it the way it is, allow it to focus more on the politics and the characters, that's what makes it so appealing.
"Showdown" between Rorschach, Nite Owl and Ozy is pretty sweet too.
 
Oh man, watching as Rorschach keeps trying to get his licks in on Ozy is both sad and hilarious at the same time. And the entire time, Ozy is basically giving a lecture and handing Rorschach's ass to him.

:D
 
Anyone think that actually the big visual scene will be the appearance of the squid (or laser or nuke or whatever they got up their sleeve). I'm thinking if I was the director, "how can we make the mass slaughter of millions an interesting visual effect, and hasn't really been done before?

For example, the teleportation of the squid could appear in slo-mo (he used slo-mo gore a lot in 300), and as the monster gradually appears, we see how each body part, tenticle, etc. just appears through buildings, people, ground, causing massive deaths and destructions, sort of like the awesome slo-mo action scene explosion at the beginning of Swordfish (and the only good scene in the movie). In the graphic novel, the appearance of the squid just seems like a typical anime-nuke bomb ending - the huge expanding ball of light and quick cuts to bodies laying on the ground. We have seen that nuke bomb ball-of-light in so many movies already. The Terminator 2 Sarah Conner Nuke dream was done well too as she melts to a skeleton. I'm just thinking that Snyder should make the destructive climax a very interesting visual scene, besides just seeing the final shot of everyone laying dead everywhere. Usually in movies, the nuke scene is very rushed and quick, almost like the director wants to move past that scene because it's so controversial. I say dwell on it in slo-mo!

It's hard to figure out, because according to 300, Snyder makes consistent memorable visual scenes from beginning to end, unlike a typical action movie that saves its most visual scenes at the beginning and at the end of the movie. And WATCHMEN isn't a type of film that is like that. Like 300, Im expecting Watchmen to be visually consistent from beginning to end, with no one scene really standing out over others (but that still could mean that every scene is like a work of art, as in 300).
 
There's nothing wrong with a few more action scenes. And there really is quite a bit of action already : Rorshach's confrontation with the police, he and Dan trying to keep order in the streets, Dan and Laurie's run-in with the thugs, Hollis getting attacked and of course the big finale. Some scenes may need some extrapolating, but they don't really need to add anything besides maybe some flashbacks of the older heroes in action, just to set the tone.
 
Yep, this is more Se7en than it is X-Men, both style and action-wise.
 

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