The Dark Knight AICN: Costume change happens ON camera?

[COMPO]

well, what if it was distachable, for a distraction he places it on a wall they think he's there open fire comes behind them.

 

[Katsuro]

So that the bat symbol is actually visible.

Then you might as well get rid of the Begins bat-symbol because bats wings arent that straight and narrow.
Unless you were talking about the Begins bat-symbol because then I agree.

I was referring to the symbol that's inside the yellow oval. That doens't not look like the bat. The symbol that's on Batman's chest in Begins looks very much like a bat, and is pretty much the standard for a simple drawing of a bat. Most halloween decorations look similar. As for the official symbol of Begins, like the one on the bat-signal, it's pretty close. Still beats the oval symbol.

 

[dude stannis]

For the love of God NO GREY!. Keep it black/graphite. DorkyFresh's is way too light.

 

[NoName86]

And I'll drag out my old approximations (also based on F4 suit)... I think somewhere between mine and yours would be really coo, personally.

I kinda like this one, stealthy, black,sleek, and fitting. Not so sure about that bat symbol though. It just seems to me a refreshing change, but it still retains that style you see in the batsuit. I think more padding/armor would go it good though, too much fabric, not enough armor.

 

[lujho]

 

[Katsuro]

do you have the original picture that's based off of? I'd like to see what changes were made.

 

[lujho]

do you have the original picture that's based off of? I'd like to see what changes were made.

Changed the cowl (obviously), removed the clasps and tilted the head up a bit (though not as much as I'd like - I'd like to see a real chin-up position but didn't want to mess with it too much).

More specifically, regarding the cowl changes: changed the mouth opening, aligned the jaw to match closer to where Bale's actual Jaw would be, changed the nose and ears, and neck, getting rid of the hunch-backed look. Whole thing would be slimmer and closer to Bale's face/head.

As always, my main inspiration for cowl shape are the Bruce Timm BTAS/TNBA/JL designs, and Lee Bermejo.

 

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31822

A Teeny Tidbit More On THE DARK KNIGHT's New Batsuit??


Merrick again...



I don't recall running across this too widely...the only place I found reference to it was HERE, although our tipster makes it sound like the changes to the new suit are more dramatic than posited in the article linked above.

Aonemantidalwave sent in this snippet regarding a recent encounter he had with someone working on THE DARK KNIGHT. I've tweaked this message to avoid revealing the identity of the person working on the film.




MINOR COSTUME-RELATED SPOILER AHEAD!?!?




Both Christian Bale and Christopher Nolan have seen a new Batsuit & there's been a fitting.

I told this person how I didn't particularly dig the suit in Batman Begins and said it was too bulky. To this he/she replied, "Well then you'll love the new one." He/she also stated that Bats changes his suit halfway through the film - and its a major plotpoint as to the how and why this happens.

He/she sadly, had no news about the Joker's get up.

This source is new to us, so keep that in mind when contemplating the vast array of costuming possibilities here.

If I'm repeating something that's already widely known, my apologies.

I definitely like seeing it on camera than something happening between movies

I love the BEGINS batsuit, I'm very intrested to see this update new suit .

 

[Cinemaman]

i don't mean to toot my own horn, but since the costume thing has come up again i feel i should post what i'm hoping the new suit will look like...even if it's not exact...

once again...props goto lujho for coming up with the idea of using the F4 costume as the basis for the suit.

Great manip, that's exactly what I want the suit to look like

 

[regwec]

I know, it's such a stupid argument it defies belief

By that, you mean that you can't refute it, so you would rather just call it stupid. I can accept without hesitation that the oval is not to many people's tastes, but I do think we should be more honest about the reasons why: namely, that they don't think it looks very good. All these arguments about practicality and "stealth" are so feeble when applied to a character like Batman that they erode my affection for the comicbook community to some extent: the character is not real; let's, please, not pretend otherwise. I think that the root of all this is that many people haven't been able to grasp what Nolan and Goyer actually meant when they talked about preserving an edge of realism in the films: the applicaiton of that sentiment was to make things from the comicbook look realistic and work in a realistic way. Thus: jumping cars (with any practical value), manouverable bulletproof wetsuits, magnetic zip-line-guns, and a man so proficient in martial arts that he can defeat hoards of men armed with automatic guns are all tremendously unrealistic, but Nolan filmed tham in such a way that they seemed believable.

The same is obviously going to apply to Batman's actions and appearance: he isn't going to wear practicle and realistic clothing or fight crime in an achievable fashion, but Nolan is skilled enough a director to put his audience at ease with it.

The yellow oval? I doubt that we'll see it, too. I like it because I grew up with it, I think it looks nice, and I believe that it is possible for it to be used as some sort of a visual echo of Batman's development. I certainly wouldn't wear one if I was going to stalk some serious criminals myself, but nor am I under the impression that an advanced knowledge of keysi would prevent them from kicking my head in if I caught up from them.

So: I think the oval looks nice: you don't. It's an absurd matter over which to resort to insults, and I'm sure we're both intelligent and reasonable enough to admit the real cause of our difference of opinion (asthetics), and to remain civil.

 

[regwec]

So what if it was canon in the comics? That is the most irrelevant argument.

Clearly not: the comics constitute the entire fabric of the intellectual property behind the film. The degree of fidelity that the films owe the comics is a matter of taste, but it is obviously disingenuous to describe the source material in its entirety as "irrelevant".

 

[ironmaidenrules]

i'd want the joker beating bats badly and the whole not wanting to see the face

but instead of a trophy, he should leave the suit nailed against a wall(in that creepy sort of way) and right RIP BATFINK in giant letters and cover the rest of the room in "hahahahahahahaha"

because at this point, he thinks batman is dead, and at that point batman faced a pretty big hit and is out for a bit and then we have gordon getting in danegr and new batsuit comes to the rescue and ****s the joker up

 

[regwec]

After all, Batman's supposed to be becoming a symbol, isn't he? It's not an absurd thought that he'd cement his symbolic nature for the people of Gotham with a symbol on his chest that matches, say, the Bat-Signal (what with it's "oval")? The oval is a part of the mythology, and it need not be yellow. Darren Aronofsky thought it should look more like a moon. It could look like a signal, too.

Gah. I've been driving at this for months, but apparently the idea is too stupid to even permit cerebral digestion.

 

[Muziko]

i don't mean to toot my own horn, but since the costume thing has come up again i feel i should post what i'm hoping the new suit will look like...even if it's not exact...

once again...props goto lujho for coming up with the idea of using the F4 costume as the basis for the suit.

I likes, I likes. Kinda what I'm hoping to see in the film.

By the way, I'm against the oval... I'm not going to give a long and drawn out explanation as to why I think it shouldn't be in the film, I'll just be completely honest and say 1.) I don't like the oval and 2.) I loved the begins chest symbol.
Same goes for lenses (really people... WTF) I highly doubt, in fact, I'm sure they're not going to put lenses over his eyes. But, it serves as a good point for arguments on the boards. So... have at it folks! Have at it.

Cambio y Fuera,
Muziko

 

[itsthebatman]

Your last statement contradicts your first. You cant have people know you're protecting them, and then say he's about wanting people to guess what he is rather than does he exist. He wants people to know there's a guy dressed up like a bat running around, who can apparently dodge bullets and knock you out before you can even blink.

All one needs to do as look at BB. Even Bruce in playboy mode acknowledges the fact that Batman is a guy rather than some supernatural force.

"A Guy dressed up like a bat clearly has issues"

I guess urban legend isn't quite the phrase that I'm looking for. If people think hes just a guy in a suit, that makes him less of a symbol, and less scary. There should be something of the supernatural about him. Remember the Narrows scene, with people affected with fear gas looking at huge bat swooping overhead with red eyes and mouth? Nobody who saw that would think 'Just a guy in a suit'.

 

[Tojo]

Clearly not: the comics constitute the entire fabric of the intellectual property behind the film. The degree of fidelity that the films owe the comics is a matter of taste, but it is obviously disingenuous to describe the source material in its entirety as "irrelevant".

I'm not saying the source material is irrelevant, but to stick to an aesthetic desire for the sake of commiting to the source material is ridiculous. Fine, let's be respectful of what artists have done for the previous 60yrs.

As for your argument that a yellow oval serves as an icon, i think that a man dressed as a Bat who is taking down criminal serves this purpose already.

 

[Dark Knight]

Changed the cowl (obviously), removed the clasps and tilted the head up a bit (though not as much as I'd like - I'd like to see a real chin-up position but didn't want to mess with it too much).

More specifically, regarding the cowl changes: changed the mouth opening, aligned the jaw to match closer to where Bale's actual Jaw would be, changed the nose and ears, and neck, getting rid of the hunch-backed look. Whole thing would be slimmer and closer to Bale's face/head.

As always, my main inspiration for cowl shape are the Bruce Timm BTAS/TNBA/JL designs, and Lee Bermejo.

I like the clasps. It makes him look like a knight and warrior.

 

[The Only Woj]

anyone think they might go the route of some fabric that would go over the existing armor? like, Fox brings some new fabric to Bruce's attention. rather than completely ditching an almost bullet proof combat suit, he wears this thin material over top to protect against something the combat suit couldn't (maybe the acid or something else). of course, what Bale would be wearing would only been the lighter fabric suit with some underpadding to suggest the original suit's armor. I think that'd be the best idea, and to be honest, it'd probably looks something along the lines of what Saint and DorkyFresh have proposed in their manips.

 

[Orko Is King]

i don't mean to toot my own horn, but since the costume thing has come up again i feel i should post what i'm hoping the new suit will look like...even if it's not exact...

once again...props goto lujho for coming up with the idea of using the F4 costume as the basis for the suit.

If it looks like this, I'll be pleased.

 

[Saint]

I like the clasps. It makes him look like a knight and warrior.

Some of us, on the other hand, want him to look like Batman.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Oh, I wasn't saying replace the Begins symbol with the Butron one(s), I mean put the oval(in the same color as the belt) behind the Begins symbol so we can actually see it this time around.

I say surround it in hot pink fluorescent tubing. Make it flash on and off like a Vegas casino sign.

We'll be able to see it then.

 

[regwec]

Are you honestly suggesting that there is any degree of equivalence in that?

 

[Miranda Fox]

I say surround it in hot pink fluorescent tubing. Make it flash on and off like a Vegas casino sign.

We'll be able to see it then.

So...Batman will end up getting mistaken for a strip club with a bend toward a bat-fetish. Awesome.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

So...Batman will end up getting mistaken for a strip club with a bend toward a bat-fetish. Awesome.

LOL!!! Well, as explained by Frank Miller, this would enable the chest logo to function as a trap... bad guys will mistakenly run towards it looking to hide out from the law, only to find themselves running into Batman's staggering right jab.

See, it makes perfect sense! t:

 

[Miranda Fox]

LOL!!! Well, as explained by Frank Miller, this would enable the chest logo to function as a trap... bad guys will mistakenly run towards it looking to hide out from the law, only to find themselves running into Batman's staggering right jab.

See, it makes perfect sense! t:

OMG, you've ruined TDK for me!