Sci-Fi Alien: Romulus (2024)

[Captain Tired]

Literally only place online you're likely to find someone clamouring for someone to 'Halloween Ends this business.'

 

[TheVileOne]

Is it, though? Covenant in particular went in some weird directions but there's nothing in it that really messes up the overall continuity like some other franchises (X-Men, Terminator).

Yes it is, especially if they seek to connect another prequel to the original Alien or possibly retcon Alien 3. Alien 3 literally kills off Ripley and all the characters we care about, and the franchise still couldn't let her go!

 

[TheVileOne]

Yeah the AVP movies are the only ones that throw off continuity if they counted but they don't.

Hence my point of the continuity being shot to hell.

 

[TheVileOne]

Literally only place online you're likely to find someone clamouring for someone to 'Halloween Ends this business.'

Well look, part of the problem here is that we can't let go of the past and we are compelled to make this franchise continue. Look at Halloween. They did Halloween H20 which basically denied the previous entries save for the first two to bring back Jamie Lee Curtis. Then they did what Halloween H20 again 20 years later to do a new trilogy except it continues only after the first one. And then the two sequels were garbage. Then the same people tried to do the same thing with The Exorcist, one of the greatest horror movies of all time, and that was also garbage.

 

[Spider-Fan]

You hire me on to this property tomorrow, I am making a stand alone movie with something like colonial marines are sent on a mission to extract a science team for the company, and it turns out it was an Island of Dr Moreau type situation where the Aliens have hatched out of loads of different creatures and we see them fighting all sorts of unique creatures based on the toy line. That's what I would do and want to see at this point

 

[Drizzle]

Yes it is, especially if they seek to connect another prequel to the original Alien or possibly retcon Alien 3. Alien 3 literally kills off Ripley and all the characters we care about, and the franchise still couldn't let her go!

Can you explain? Because nothing has been confirmed about any future films and if they'd even include Ripley at all. Neil Blomkamp's Alien movie almost retconned Alien 3 and Resurrection but that was the closest the franchise has come to that.

That also has nothing to do with the current continuity (Prometheus-Covenant-Alien-Romulus-Aliens-Alien 3-Resurrection).

 

[Punisher_MAX]

You hire me on to this property tomorrow, I am making a stand alone movie with something like colonial marines are sent on a mission to extract a science team for the company, and it turns out it was an Island of Dr Moreau type situation where the Aliens have hatched out of loads of different creatures and we see them fighting all sorts of unique creatures based on the toy line. That's what I would do and want to see at this point

...mother of god this is brilliant.

 

[Zantera]

I've never been a fan of retconning movies in a franchise. Even if I don't like the direction some sequels take or even if they're just bad, you still have the movies you enjoy and retconning things just feel childish like sticking your head in the sand pretending you live in la la land. That's why I was never big on the Blomkamp film honestly.

As for what they could do next I do like @Spider-Fan 's idea. One of the coolest parts of the lore that Alien 3 added was the idea the xenomorph could birth from something else and take on that trait. And with the re-establishing of the black goo into the franchise (rather than burying it and ignoring those 2 films) it seems for the most part the audiences weren't too negative on them bringing it back. That means you could in theory mix the xenomorph DNA even with species it couldn't normally pregnate as a facehugger (because of size differences) so you could make some horrific mixtures honestly.

As long as you keep it somewhat scary. That's probably my only knock on Aliens which is a movie I love - is that it's not nearly as scary as some of the other entries.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Watched the first movie again tonight before my 2nd viewing of Romulus tomorrow night. I prefer Aliens, but Alien is still so damn good.

 

[Drizzle]

There really isn't a wrong answer between Alien or Aliens. Both are god tier movies, personally I go with Alien but I will say that the director's cut of Aliens is far superior to the theatrical cut. The removal of the scene where Ripley learns that her daughter died takes a lot away from her arc. Of course it still works as a movie but it's comparable to the Saruman scene in Return of the King where you have to go "Really? They couldn't have left those extra couple of minutes in there?" Apart from that I also like the extra time we get to spend with the marines.

 

[samsnee]

I’ve never really noticed before how the back of its head looks so phallic. I mean, I knew Geiger was all about that stuff but really shows here.

 

[Zantera]

I think there's pros and cons with the director's cut of Aliens. The biggest pro as mentioned is I think the scene where Ripley learns the fate of her daughter is really strong and should have been in the final film as it really ties into the motherhood theme of the film. However I have some minor issues with it, such as I think it's a slight detriment to the film that they show Hadley's Hope before communication is lost. I think it's more effective with our group of characters getting there and we see this place for the first time together with the characters. I don't think you need those minutes and especially the scene where Newt's family goes to the Derelict. It doesn't add anything to the movie in my opinion other than showing us what we already know and adding some run time.

With that said I usually watch the director's cut and I don't even remember when I last saw the theatrical one. But it's the same with Alien 3. With Alien I think I've seen the director's cut maybe once (from memory it didn't change much aside from the eggmorphing scene?) and I think I might have seen the Resurrection one but it was also very minor from what I remember, like 1 or 2 minute difference?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Enjoyed this even more on my 2nd viewing. Those last 20 mins are just so creepy. But it's great seeing the Xenomorph be scary again as well.

Can't wait to add this into my re-watched of this series. My family really enjoyed it too.

 

[Drizzle]

I think there's pros and cons with the director's cut of Aliens. The biggest pro as mentioned is I think the scene where Ripley learns the fate of her daughter is really strong and should have been in the final film as it really ties into the motherhood theme of the film. However I have some minor issues with it, such as I think it's a slight detriment to the film that they show Hadley's Hope before communication is lost. I think it's more effective with our group of characters getting there and we see this place for the first time together with the characters. I don't think you need those minutes and especially the scene where Newt's family goes to the Derelict. It doesn't add anything to the movie in my opinion other than showing us what we already know and adding some run time.

I'll agree that the Hadley's Hope scenes in the beginning aren't necessary. I still enjoy them because it's fun to see the derelict ship again and a pre-traumatized Newt but ultimately those scenes only exist to reiterate how f***ed those people are about to be.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

I'll agree that the Hadley's Hope scenes in the beginning aren't necessary. I still enjoy them because it's fun to see the derelict ship again and a pre-traumatized Newt but ultimately those scenes only exist to reiterate how f***ed those people are about to be.

I personally liked it, the DC of Aliens definitely makes it better overall. I don't think the DC of Alien did all that much.

 

[Drizzle]

I personally liked it, the DC of Aliens definitely makes it better overall. I don't think the DC of Alien did all that much.

Yeah the Alien Director's Cut doesn't take away or add anything IMO. Ripley finding Dallas and Brett is creepy and disturbing but it's really not needed. I know that scene in particular kind of stirred some controversy as to how the Xenomorphs are created since the purpose of trapping them in a cocoon was supposedly to transform them into eggs. Personally I can accept that there are multiple ways for them to procreate whether it's through a queen laying eggs or a lone Xenomorph in the wild left to its own devices to do it themselves if necessary but ultimately I don't think it matters since I don't believe the scene in the Alien Director's Cut is accepted as canon.

 

[Sithborg]

And lets just ignore the Predalien method from AvP R.

 

[Lily Adler]

I think Covenant underperforming had a little to do with not so great word of mouth plus the fact that it was released in a more crowded time at the box office having to compete for screens with Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, Pirates of the Caribbean and Wonder Woman didn't help it either.

Talk about dead franchises.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Kane52630]

iykyk

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

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*inhales*

HARLAN BAND LEAPS BEFORE HE LOOKS!

SUZEE'S SMARTER THAN A MILLION BOOKS!

 

[Kane52630]

*inhales*

HARLAN BAND LEAPS BEFORE HE LOOKS!

SUZEE'S SMARTER THAN A MILLION BOOKS!

7 year old me confused af when I saw Zack Taylor on a different show

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

7 year old me confused af when I saw Zack Taylor on a different show

Same.

But man, when Suzee joined General Hospital and I had to watch with my mom, I remember her first big storyline was a rape arc.

8 year old me experienced:

 

[Drizzle]

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I haven't thought about that show in YEARS. Talk about a throwback...

And who's that in the back?

 

[henzINNIT]

The practical final monster looks way more freaky just casually standing around. Consider my mind blown, cause I thought it looked like a kinda generic CG thing in the film. So I guess it's a practical effect so unreal that I assumed it was digital...? Damn.

It might be a terrible idea but considering how you can work around certain timeline issues with cryosleep, in theory you could have a movie where Rain & Andy crosses paths with Ripley and they even throw David in there. A big Alien: No Way Home type of film where you tie all the things together. It could be fun to see though it could also be a trainwreck. I know a lot of people are desperately clamouring for "the final movie" in the David trilogy but what do you event want from that film? The derelict ship in Alien and Aliens definitely become a lot less special and interesting if we set up the course of events that ends a movie with that ship crashing there.

ha, on the previous page I said this:

'Ripley should meet David, hundreds of years after Convenant. That would be fun. Thanks to cryo, you could have a lot of people cross paths if you wanted to. I know retconning Newt's death is popular, but I'd rather have Ripley find her daughter Amanda frozen somewhere.'

That film is a dead cert for a trainwreck, but there is a part of me that wants some closure for Ripley. Encountering David and/or some Alien origin would feel right for that. An impossible reunion with her daughter might put a nice bow on things too.