Aliens Vs Predator

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Why don't we even have a TDK style teaser by now?

I thought we were supposed to get an R-Rated Trailer ?

 

[Spade]

We're getting a green-band trailer (meaning that the MPAA approves of it being shown in theaters) and a red-band trailer (which can be as gory as the studio would like the promotion to be). Both will be advertising an R-rated film. It's just that one will show more than the other.

And no, we're way past the point of a TDK-style teaser. We're now getting what's looking to be only one real trailer release. You might as well call this both the first and final one. I really can't see them releasing another before the film arrives.

 

[xwolverine2]

wheres the ****ing teaser?

lol, the AVP teaser showed nothing.... HURRY UP AND SHOW US NOTHING!

 

[Rezzo]

*sighs

Every time I see new posts in this thread I´m hoping it´s someone providing a link to a trailer but it´s always just talking and no trailer

 

[xwolverine2]

talking = bichin about avp

 

[TheVileOne]

AVP, been there done that.

It has aliens and predators in them. It's a ripoff of PREDATOR . . . and ALIENS.

 

[xwolverine2]

at least it delivers on action... and some sort of story that leads somewhere...

...and it doesnt require several tylenol pills to be taken.

 

[Bishop2]

AVP, been there done that.

It has aliens and predators in them. It's a ripoff of PREDATOR . . . and ALIENS.

By definition, I'm pretty sure sequels can't be ripoffs, since they are basically the same product. You can't rip yourself off.

 

[BatB]

LMAO everyone on the imdb boards are going insane. LoL there heads are gonna explode any second LoL

 

[Nathan]

Nothing new on the Movie, but something else AvP2 related. Some scans to the PSP game. Taken from www.avpgalaxy.net.

 

[SalaciousVC]

Nothing new on the Movie, but something else AvP2 related. Some scans to the PSP game. Taken from www.avpgalaxy.net.

those are real,right?

 

[Spade]

That article sure did stir up some stuff at Galaxy. I like the double wrist-blades, but something about the basketball court and the fact that the vision has AVP written all over it unsettles me.

 

[Nathan]

And in case some of the text is too difficult to make out, here's he transcript that was posted as well.

Article from magazine:

The good news is you're the predator. The bad news is the aliens don't like you. The good news is this game- a PSP exclusive-is based on the upcoming movie Alien Versus Predator 2. The bad news is the aliens don't like you. Again, the good news is you made the right choice. Nobody got access to Rebellion's fantastic-looking new slice of nightmarish sci-fi combat before us, or even knew of its existence.
This is its debut. The bad news is the aliens don't like you.

Not much can survive in the face of a grinning, fully-grown, acid-blooded, slimy, metal-toothed alien...even Ripley ran away. But as you know, predators are somewhat hard themselves. Survival of the fittest kits you out with all those deadly gadgets you'd expect; wrist blades, night-vision modes, shoulder cannon, invisibility cloaking, spears and much more- and lets you loose on the 'xenomorph' menace. But theres a catch. quite a few in fact. You're alone-its just you, an elite predator, against a horde of ceaseless space maniacs; a horde of ceaseless space maniacs who are already fighting the national guard, who in turn, aren't going to be sending
you any Christmas cards-none that aren't small and pointy and doing 750mph anyway.

Theres a war on and you're in the middle of it.

Thats right, the national guard-you're on Earth in Colorado to be precise in the small town of Gunnison; just as in the film. And it turns out theres nothing quite as effective as a familiar, typical little town-with its shopping malls, schools and hospitals-to make an Alien look really freaky. It gets worse. There are still parties of civilians in Gunnison and they're looking for their missing friends.Theyre unlikely to simply ask the nice man with the long hair which way Bubba Billy-Bob went and they're very likely to rustle up some pain and try to throw it all over you.

YOU'RE GHOSTING US

Stealth is an option with your cloaking device, of course (as long as you don't get wet) and you can use vision modes to track and hunt humans fairly easily. But this really isn't about creeping around apologetically avoiding confrontation. You're a predator and you have a box of weapons even Hans Bix wouldn't lift for too long, just feeling the weight.

Some we've mentioned already, but even the simples have brilliant abilities. Wrist blades are your default melee weapon for instance, but they can still be combined.
Similarly, the spear can take down multiple enemies AND has a useful auto-block feature if you're retreating, while the familiar boomerang-style predator disc will kill every one you've tagged-up in first person mode, one after the other,
before swooping back drenched in blood to your ever-loving hands
New weaponry is purchased with points learned from obeying your Honour system-more about this interesting code in a moment. And as you may be realising...the later, more sophisticated weaponry is a really severe health and safety liability.But then, it needs to be. Skilled players can work their way up to laser-trip mines, plasma grenades throwing stars and a modified hand-held cannon that delivers plasma bolts at uzi-type rates, the trademark shoulder cannon
and - better step out of the way- dual shoulder cannons. These enormous guns can be charged up by holding the trigger down- the longer you hold your nerve the more powerful the blast. On the down-side, it drains suit power furiously, leaving you temporarily at risk.There are even a few suit modifications to earn; such as the steel-wrist shield (deadly to anything it smashes into, but also draining on power) and an advanced cloaking capability.

VISION OF BEAUTY AND THE BEAST

You just wouldn't be the predator without your special vision modes, but you have them, so you must be the predator. Logic is such a wonderful thing. The three altered modes have three distinct uses. Firstly, theres the alien mode. This is tuned to highlight their acid blood, but will also show up whole aliens pretty well and even allow the tracking of creatures you've tagged-up. Aliens also show up on your wrist computer.Next theres heat mode. This is best for finding humans and useful machinery and can also be used for tracking- you don't have to attack, after all, as they could lead you to your enemy by obligingly getting horribly attacked. Lastly theres predator mode- rather than being handy for checking your lovely hair in mirrors, its designed to show up the all important bits of ship debris.

ALIEN VERSUS YOUR MATES

The main thrust of Alien Versus Preadtors multi-player, is a 'last stand'-type mode. It's a xxx xxxx mode that allows four players to get together as predators and fight off waves of hoarding aliens..where are the suitcase-sized sentry guns when you need them eh? xxxxxxxx xxx locating one would help. The multi-player mode is one thing Rebellion has been slightly tight-lipped about detail-wise,but the number of times they've mentioned it and the survival of the fittest subtitle; thats just oh so ept, tell us it certainly wont be merely a token wi-fi presence. And if theres anything more mouthwatering than aliens on your PSP, its the same aliens all over everyone whos xxxx. This latter improvement allows you to track aliens as well as humans...aliens hunt by pheromone, so for most of the game those bishop ripping bugs can smell you coming. Wait. We were busy explaining what a dreadful ****storm you've landed in, spaxx in the middle there, but got sidetracked, thats right it gets worse still. Besides the hostile mobs, frightened soldiers and the growing infestation of perfect otherworld killing machines, there are the scuttling little face huggers. And the chest bursters. Think thats just a normal healthy man you're fighting? Good luck with that.

At this point you may be wondering what this tangled bunch of super bastards is doing in the town of Gunnison, Colorado. But before we get to that, we should clear up the whole honour system thing, as that's what keeps you kitted out and hopefully breathing while you're there. The predator, despite being a deadly seven foot wall trophy hunter from space, is actually pretty cool. You can point to the dreads and the slow mouth clicks and the oh-so retro spear if you like.... but his sense of hunters fair play has plenty to do with it too. The alien after all is just as good looking and far more deadly, but though hugely admired you couldn't call one cool. An alien couldn't pull Kate Moss but a predator might.... in some weird and weepingly sad alternative universe we've just invented that is.

ITS NOT ME

The predator kills though choice, not by nature... killing unarmed humans is not sporting. So you lose honour points for it. You even lose them for killing an alien
that hasn't killed anyone else or attacked you-hell, even a facehugger that hasn't impregnated anyone is a slight against your code of honour. Stalking and killing unarmed humans goes down very badly. Actually if you're feeling really hard you can play without your mask; sight is impaired and obviously you wont have the vision modes, but honour points are doubled, its either a quick way to glory or a quicker way to death. We cant decide. Amazingly, not quite everyone in Gunnison is trying to kill you, and leaving innocents to their fate is frowned upon..
letting humans be killed by aliens, facehuggers or chesbursters will also affect honour points negatively.

GIVE US A HUG

On the other hand, saving people from such horrors, whacking attackers and offing impregnated humans all earn you points. Better still, if you kill a prolifically murderous alien you get an extra point for each of their victims. Rejoice! They won't have died in vain! They'll have bought you a nice new gun which is sweet of them. We said we'd explain what everybody was doing in Colorado. Remember the predators ship from the original 1987 Arnie movie? Its crashed in the woods outside town setting free a whole pile of facehuggers and much worse- a deeply unfriendly predator/alien hybrid you're ultimately going to have to take down.
Of course, its also important you find and destroy the ship wreckage-it wont do to have pesky humans getting hold of it. Each of the 15 levels promises multiple routes and of course, theres the opportunity to customise and upgrade between the levels- it should lend itself well to replaying, if were lucky. But then HR Gigers crackly insectoid space bastards crawling up the walls and a Predalien hybrid waiting
for you the whole damn time-waiting with the unbalanced patience of a jilted lover-you're going to need plenty o'gf luck just to get through once. and the bad news is the aliens dont like you. the good news is your hair looks ace.

 

[Bishop2]

That article sure did stir up some stuff at Galaxy. I like the double wrist-blades, but something about the basketball court and the fact that the vision has AVP written all over it unsettles me.

He has to have multiple vision modes in order to see the Alien. Thank god they remembered.

That game sounds cool, but then again, so did Predator: Concrete Jungle, and boy did it ever suck.

 

[lollycop]

I highly doubt the movie will be rated R. Or the trailer. AVP 1 was 14A. Witch means PG-13 here in canada.

 

[Bishop2]

I highly doubt the movie will be rated R. Or the trailer. AVP 1 was 14A. Witch means PG-13 here in canada.

We know. AVP was PG-13 in America as well. However, Fox president Tom Rothman and the directors the Strause brothers have both made it very clear that they're going back to be a hard R film this time, and that there will be an R-rated VERSION of the trailer available online (which surely will not be the same version seen in theaters). There's not really any doubt.

I'm sure that decision regarding the rating is part of why this one has a lower budget...

 

[lollycop]

We know. AVP was PG-13 in America as well. However, Fox president Tom Rothman and the directors the Strause brothers have both made it very clear that they're going back to be a hard R film this time, and that there will be an R-rated VERSION of the trailer available online (which surely will not be the same version seen in theaters). There's not really any doubt.

I'm sure that decision regarding the rating is part of why this one has a lower budget...

I would aim towards 14/PG-13. More people would see it. Witch means more $$$$$$$.

 

[Bishop2]

I would aim towards 14/PG-13. More people would see it. Witch means more $$$$$$$.

Yeah, I'm not sure about the reason for the business decision - AVP obviously wasn't HURT at the box office by its rating. If anything, the opposite is true because it did so well. But some fans were vocally displeased with the fact that it was so non-violent against humans, because they don't remember the total lack of gore in Aliens. So I guess they're responding to that angry outcry, although as a business decision... why? You did more than fine the last time out with your PG-13. Although maybe it's worth noting that they never SHOT for a PG-13 last time... but once they found they could remove a little bit of language to get it, they went for it.

 

[lollycop]

Yeah, I'm not sure about the reason for the business decision - AVP obviously wasn't HURT at the box office by its rating. If anything, the opposite is true because it did so well. But some fans were vocally displeased with the fact that it was so non-violent against humans, because they don't remember the total lack of gore in Aliens. So I guess they're responding to that angry outcry, although as a business decision... why? You did more than fine the last time out with your PG-13. Although maybe it's worth noting that they never SHOT for a PG-13 last time... but once they found they could remove a little bit of language to get it, they went for it.

The only violent part I saw with humans was when you see the aliens rip out of they're chests.

 

[Bishop2]

The only violent part I saw with humans was when you see the aliens rip out of they're chests.

In AVP? Yeah, there's that, and a guy getting slashed across the face off-screen so that blood splatters on the nearby rocks (similar to Ferro's death in Aliens) and the guy getting impaled against the wall in the whaling station, Max getting in the net so tight that blood starts to come out until he's finally run through and blood comes down the spear that kills him, Weyland getting run through and of course various off-screen deaths such as Sebastian getting shot in the head, people thrashing around after aliens grab them, broken legs from falling. It's not very bloody, but there's plenty of violence.

It's very much like Aliens in that most of the deaths are done off-screen and with little to no blood content, and the only real bloody scene is a toned-down chestburster (or at least, toned-down in comparison to what was in Alien).

 

[Spade]

The toned-down elements wasn't what bothered me about AVP. It's that none of the material was scary. Even with the gore present at the level both franchises are known for having it at, with all of the quick cuts it still would have failed in that regard. It was a movie that relied on reputation rather than the horror element, and Alien is a film that showed that you don't have to show a lot to scare the hell out of people if you strike the right balance between gore and what we think we saw. If it would have taken just a different approach with relatively the same plot, it could have been a vastly better movie. I dislike this entire PG-13 or R argument...if the movie is where it should be in what makes both franchises great, whatever rating it is given shouldn't matter. Writing it as an R-rated film wouldn't hurt, though.

 

[Bishop2]

The toned-down elements wasn't what bothered me about AVP. It's that none of the material was scary. Even with the gore present at the level both franchises are known for having it at, with all of the quick cuts it still would have failed in that regard. It was a movie that relied on reputation rather than the horror element, and Alien is a film that showed that you don't have to show a lot to scare the hell out of people if you strike the right balance between gore and what we think we saw. If it would have taken just a different approach with relatively the same plot, it could have been a vastly better movie.

Predator, Predator 2, Alien 3, Alien Resurrection... these movies weren't scary either.

They took an action-based approach, which I think is valid.

 

[Spade]

Predator, Predator 2, Alien 3, Alien Resurrection... these movies weren't scary either.

They took an action-based approach, which I think is valid.

Well, in Predator's case I liked it because of the action. I don't quite know why you didn't find it scary, though...there were some genuine parts such as when they found the skinned bodies of the soldiers they were sent out to find that sort of made me jump. Movies like Predator 2 (due to the fact that it focused more on open hunting), Alien 3 (the lack of any real characterization to make the deaths suspenseful), and Alien Resurrection (...) speak for themselves, but Predator- at least to me- was pretty good at blending unabashful Arnie-style action with the air of a blind fright factor.

Sans AR, the rest were fairly good...don't feel I need to say why "sans AR"...

 

[xwolverine2]

Predator, Predator 2, Alien 3, Alien Resurrection... these movies weren't scary either.

They took an action-based approach, which I think is valid.

yeah predator has always been action oriented to me..... hence arnolds involvement lol.

alien3 wasnt anything.... it was just resurrection went crazy with action... it was like alien meets fifth element. lmao

 

[Spade]

I think that over the few views of it I've come to respect Alien 3 a bit more...given the horrible script they were going to use, the fact that FOX gave a release date and a trailer based on a screenplay that never even went into talks, and that the script for the production shoot was incomplete when they started, Fincher tried his best to make it an okay film.

Resurrection is a movie that had potential and took a dump on it within the span of allowance the audience gives a film to grab attention. From the silly Perez who was a pathetic excuse for a villain in the first act, the really bad motherly tones of Ripley 8 in regards to the Aliens throughout the second act, and the...birth...of the "Newborn" in the final act, it's just one movie I can sum up in a single phrase: laser ricochet. It took logic, put it in a blender, and poured it out on celluloid. I know it's easy to tear into things than to talk positive...but God, that's one of the worst movies I've ever seen. No wonder why everyone's talking about a prequel- no one wants Alien 5 to be a sequel to that (if Alien 5 is ever made).