Supergirl All About The Ratings!!!!!!

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No reason for any fans of Supergirl to worry anyway, it's a CBS-produced show that's currently pulling second highest numbers for the network. It'll have to utterly crash and burn to be cancelled, and even that might not do it.
 
No reason for any fans of Supergirl to worry anyway, it's a CBS-produced show that's currently pulling second highest numbers for the network. It'll have to utterly crash and burn to be cancelled, and even that might not do it.
Pretty sure CBS has nothing to do with Supergirl anymore. It was always a WB produced show, like Persona of Interest on CBS.
 
Right, my mistake. Still it's way above par.
 
On the plus, you have to know there were a lot of a adorable Supergirls out there last night. Also their fairshare of Alexs. I am also sure there were plenty of little Jimmy Olsens. :o

There were probably more kids dressed as Supergirl last night than people watching Supergirl last night.

Pretty sure CBS has nothing to do with Supergirl anymore. It was always a WB produced show, like Persona of Interest on CBS.

The production companies of Supergirl when it was an CBS and now on the CW is still.
Berlanti Productions
DC Entertainment
Warner Bros. Television
 
No reason for any fans of Supergirl to worry anyway, it's a CBS-produced show that's currently pulling second highest numbers for the network. It'll have to utterly crash and burn to be cancelled, and even that might not do it.

CBS owns nothing of Supergirl which was the problem with it being on CBS....CBS was never going to get much out of it, so why put much into it. :whatever: :yay:
 
Interesting article on how the CW works....

I have read several different articles about this, but this one is very user friendly.... :)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrill...ow-jane-the-virgin-supernatural/#5aa543ff5d69

The general thrust of the article is basically true -- that CW relies on alternative revenue streams more than the other networks because all of their shows are owned by one of the two partners in the network.

But beyond that, it's fairly confused.

First off, they state that most shows on CW still get 22 episode orders. That isn't true at all.

As of right now only The Flash, Arrow, Supergirl, Supernatural, and Jane the Virgin have full orders. A few other shows like Legends have an option for a back order but all the rest of the shows are getting 13-16 episodes at the most.

Second, they said that The Flash would flounder on other networks like NBC. Well, last season The Flash got better ratings on CW than all but seven scripted shows on NBC. And it's pretty likely that Flash would get better ratings on NBC than CW, not worse, so it's likely that Flash would have been a top five performer on NBC had it started its run there.

Third, it's not really broadcast syndication that's keeping CW shows afloat. You can count the number of CW shows (not holdover WB or UPN shows) that have EVER been syndicated on one hand. Very few ever hit the 88 episode target they mention.

Rather, it's streaming -- specifically Netflix -- and international sales, as well as DVD/Blu Ray/digital sales that CW is after.

And finally, there is absolutely a minimum standard for live ratings that CW shows have to hit, because at some point CW affiliates will outright refuse to air shows. Many CW affiliates get better ratings showing syndicated repeats of old sitcoms and the local news than they do airing stuff like Jane the Virgin or Crazy ex-Girlfriend. If they drop low enough, they'll refuse to air them. That's how Beauty and the Beast ended up getting pushed off the fall schedule and into summer when nobody really cares.
 
The general thrust of the article is basically true -- that CW relies on alternative revenue streams more than the other networks because all of their shows are owned by one of the two partners in the network.

But beyond that, it's fairly confused.

First off, they state that most shows on CW still get 22 episode orders. That isn't true at all.

As of right now only The Flash, Arrow, Supergirl, Supernatural, and Jane the Virgin have full orders. A few other shows like Legends have an option for a back order but all the rest of the shows are getting 13-16 episodes at the most.

Second, they said that The Flash would flounder on other networks like NBC. Well, last season The Flash got better ratings on CW than all but seven scripted shows on NBC. And it's pretty likely that Flash would get better ratings on NBC than CW, not worse, so it's likely that Flash would have been a top five performer on NBC had it started its run there.

Third, it's not really broadcast syndication that's keeping CW shows afloat. You can count the number of CW shows (not holdover WB or UPN shows) that have EVER been syndicated on one hand. Very few ever hit the 88 episode target they mention.

Rather, it's streaming -- specifically Netflix -- and international sales, as well as DVD/Blu Ray/digital sales that CW is after.

And finally, there is absolutely a minimum standard for live ratings that CW shows have to hit, because at some point CW affiliates will outright refuse to air shows. Many CW affiliates get better ratings showing syndicated repeats of old sitcoms and the local news than they do airing stuff like Jane the Virgin or Crazy ex-Girlfriend. If they drop low enough, they'll refuse to air them. That's how Beauty and the Beast ended up getting pushed off the fall schedule and into summer when nobody really cares.

As of the date of the article, most did.... this will be a season of shortened ones for sure.

CW had that with "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend" and opted to move it rather than cancel it. Some of the affiliates said no to it on Mondays, so the CW simply moved it.

I think everyone understands there is a reality to all of this, but the hand wringing over ratings is getting a bit much. Even TVGrimReaper has been talking about it on his twitter feed in regards to Supergirl fans. We have some that are absolutely ridiculous, SG.TV have a couple, and good lord Twitter is full of them. So, simply putting some different ways of looking at it out there, and this article explained some of it just fine.
 
I certainly don't think any of the DCTV shows have anything to worry about

Bewkes also lauded the strong performance of the DC TV series, saying they generate more than $1 billion in revenue a year for Time Warner. He said the company has an unprecedented 10 DC TV series on the air this season.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dc-universe-movies-heading-tnt-tbs-943361?utm_source=twitter

If I were an Agents of SHIELD fan I'd be sweating right now but all signs point to all of the current DCTV shows getting renewed.

We'll have to wait and see on the animated shows (Justice League Action, Vixen) and the upcoming Powerless, but the core 7 DCTV (Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, Legends, Gotham, Lucifer, iZombie) shows aren't going anywhere this season.

Preacher is a bit of a different story since it's actually produced by Sony, but I don't see AMC getting rid of it. Seems low budget and is an above-average performer for them.

[Teen Titans Go is already renewed]
 
I certainly don't think any of the DCTV shows have anything to worry about


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dc-universe-movies-heading-tnt-tbs-943361?utm_source=twitter

If I were an Agents of SHIELD fan I'd be sweating right now but all signs point to all of the current DCTV shows getting renewed.

We'll have to wait and see on the animated shows (Justice League Action, Vixen) and the upcoming Powerless, but the core 7 DCTV (Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, Legends, Gotham, Lucifer, iZombie) shows aren't going anywhere this season.

Preacher is a bit of a different story since it's actually produced by Sony, but I don't see AMC getting rid of it. Seems low budget and is an above-average performer for them.

[Teen Titans Go is already renewed]

I agree, and Preacher seems to have somewhat of the beginnings of a cult following, I could see them renewing it in hopes that that builds.

I don't see AoS being cancelled, but I see some major production cuts in its future...:csad:
 
It's already doing 0.8s and it's about to take a massive hiatus. SHIELD is going to put up some truly, truly awful numbers in the late spring.

I really don't see it coming back.
 
0.8 on ABC right now is Deadsville. I'm surprised the predictor sites mostly haven't downgraded it yet. It's not a show people come back to; it's not even able to do mini-arcs like Gotham could by tying into a popular and well-known character. I genuinely think it's toast.
 
Depends on what the syndication deals are like.
 
All shows except for specials, football are down, and even those are down from previous years...

Advertisers are screwed....lol
 
As of the date of the article, most did.... this will be a season of shortened ones for sure.

CW had that with "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend" and opted to move it rather than cancel it. Some of the affiliates said no to it on Mondays, so the CW simply moved it.

I think everyone understands there is a reality to all of this, but the hand wringing over ratings is getting a bit much. Even TVGrimReaper has been talking about it on his twitter feed in regards to Supergirl fans. We have some that are absolutely ridiculous, SG.TV have a couple, and good lord Twitter is full of them. So, simply putting some different ways of looking at it out there, and this article explained some of it just fine.

Well, I think Supergirl is going to last at least this season. The earliest it could be cancelled would be for next season. The only way that will happen is in the unlikely event that the ratings totally tank.
 
If it gets a 3rd season, it will get a 4th season.
 
As long as Supergirl has the status of renewal by May of 2017, that's all I'm concerned about.
 
I agree, and Preacher seems to have somewhat of the beginnings of a cult following, I could see them renewing it in hopes that that builds.

I don't see AoS being cancelled, but I see some major production cuts in its future...:csad:
What are the storylines on AOS going to be like if they cut the budget any more than they already have?
 
What are the storylines on AOS going to be like if they cut the budget any more than they already have?

Not to be rude, by why are people discussing AoS in a Supergirl thread instead of in the AoS forum?
 
Not to be rude, by why are people discussing AoS in a Supergirl thread instead of in the AoS forum?

Because sometimes we compare shows....budget, ratings, etc....

Discussions are fluid, it happens...on a forum this large, with as many different movies and shows being discussed you have fans who are fans of several, and sometimes the conversation will shift back and forth.
 
Live + 3rd day ratings increase for Supergirl for Halloween, 10/31/16

Live+Same Day --- 0.64
Live+3rd Day --- 1.06
A 66% increase.
I guess a lot of people were out trick or treating or at parties.

Notice that Supergirl just missed getting a 0.7 in the unroundeds by 0.01
 
Rating for last night's episode, Crossfire, is 0.7 and 2.44 million viewers as it got back up from last week.
 
Rating for last night's episode, Crossfire, is 0.7 and 2.44 million viewers as it got back up from last week.

Of course this comes a week after halloween and the L+3 and L+7's will help like they have in the past. Oh and as far as the NFL's numbers being low...two words...Colin Kaepernick. The numbers have been down ever since the 49ers QB protest of The Star Spangled Banner. Look I am for free speech, but hating our national anthem or our founding fathers and mothers, well that deserves a trip to kick your a$$ city!

Compare that to the World Series...ESPECIALLY GAME 7...40 MILLION PEOPLE nationwide tuned in to that game which some have called the greatest game in baseball...I think that's hyperbole, but what a game it was. Then again, how would you feel if you were a Chicago Cubs fan knowing your team had to wait ONE HUNDRED EIGHT YEARS (before TV, Radio, talking movies, heck even sliced bread) between world titles?

I mean the shares in Chicago were IMMENSE...a 71 share...meaning 71% of the TV sets in the Chicago DMA (which includes parts of WI, IN and MI) were tuned to WFLD-32 and Fox's coverage of Game 7, and this in a way helps CW 50 WPWR their co-Fox TV Stations owned sister station, which might do some cross promotions and such. Not a bad way to celebrate WFLD's 50th anniversay on the air.
 
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