Supergirl All About The Ratings!!!!!!

[Mysteryman]

They did that way because of me.....I knew as soon as I said .9 for both, they would blow it out of the water....and they did. I am HORRIBLE at predictions.

If this is true,predict the lowest possible ratings for Supergirl and they will RISE!
Hey, I will take it however I can get it!

 

[Kelly]

If this is true,predict the lowest possible ratings for Supergirl and they will RISE!
Hey, I will take it however I can get it!

LOL, I am better off just NOT making predictions...

 

[famicommander]

Legends tying Supergirl is amazing.

Hopefully they won't be so stupid next year about the crossover. Don't make it a milestone episode (like Arrow's 100th) or a midseason finale. Just four complete episodes.

 

[Sithborg]

I honestly think they are better off with smaller crossovers, with only 2 shows. The restrictions of all 4 were quite apparent.

 

[Kelly]

I honestly think they are better off with smaller crossovers, with only 2 shows. The restrictions of all 4 were quite apparent.

To me they would be much better off to end ALL THE SERIES WITH THEIR OWN WINTER FINALES BY the First week of December....with each last scene a big cliff hanger leading into the crossover...

The crossover would then be a solid night for CW the second week of January have it a 2 hour movie extravaganza (just make sure that you are not on the same night as the National Championship game....and they all start their 2nd half of the season the next week.

So, they all have 7 episodes filmed for the first half, the 7th being the Winter Finales for all the shows....or 8th which ever works out with scheduling, I WOULD SAY 7, and the crossover would be filmed during the time they filmed the 8th episode this season....then they finish their shooting schedule with 9 and possibly 10 take their break as usual.

I totally have no clue what I'm talking about, but that would be a good scenario if they could schedule it.

 

[vantheman77]

I feel the timing was not good with the crossovers with Supergirl being a midseason finale and Arrow being an anniversary.

Last night's crossover drew 1.0 and 3.33 million viewers.

 

[famicommander]

Actually, it drew a 1.148, which rounds to 1.1 and could very likely adjust up to 1.2 (we won't get the finals until Monday unfortunately).

So in all probability Supergirl got beat by all three of the other Arrowverse shows.

The crossover boosted Arrow and Legends above Supernatural in the total season average so far, so now CW looks like this
The Flash: 1.14
Supergirl: 0.87
Arrow: 0.75
Legends of Tomorrow: 0.69 (likely to go up after the finals)
Supernatural: 0.67
Jane the Virgin: 0.40
The Vampire Diaries: 0.36
Frequency: 0.31
No Tomorrow: 0.30
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend: 0.19

The 3.33 million total viewers for Legends of Tomorrow is also a series high

If the final rating adjusts to 1.2 it will tie the series premiere for the best rating ever

So the crossover effect
The Flash: 1.1-->1.5
Supergirl: 0.9-->1.1
Arrow: 0.7-->1.3
Legends of Tomorrow: 0.6-->1.1 (likely 1.2)

 

[Osiris-Rex]

Live+Same Day to Live+3 increase for the 11/21/16 episode of Supergirl.
18-49 demo
0.91 to 1.23, a 35% increase
Total viewers
2.61 million to 3.49 million, a 34% increase.


Final ratings for the 11/28/16 episode of Supergirl
1.1 for 18-49 demo, 3.53 million total viewers

Breakdown
Women 18-34: 0.8
Men 18-34: 1.0
Women 18-49: 1.0
Men 18-49: 1.3

 

[Robert_Anthony]

To me they would be much better off to end ALL THE SERIES WITH THEIR OWN WINTER FINALES BY the First week of December....with each last scene a big cliff hanger leading into the crossover...

The crossover would then be a solid night for CW the second week of January have it a 2 hour movie extravaganza (just make sure that you are not on the same night as the National Championship game....and they all start their 2nd half of the season the next week.

So, they all have 7 episodes filmed for the first half, the 7th being the Winter Finales for all the shows....or 8th which ever works out with scheduling, I WOULD SAY 7, and the crossover would be filmed during the time they filmed the 8th episode this season....then they finish their shooting schedule with 9 and possibly 10 take their break as usual.

I totally have no clue what I'm talking about, but that would be a good scenario if they could schedule it.

Well Kelly I think you do in a way. You assume the NCAA college football national champsionship game. Accoridng to NCAA.com, the game will take place on 1/9/17 in Tempe, AZ. The winners of the Peach and Fiesta Bowls meet for the championship. That means the show would return 1/16/17.

 

[famicommander]

These are the top male-skewing dramas on all of network TV (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, CW)
1. Legends of Tomorrow (61% male)
2. The Flash (60% male)
3. Arrow (58% male)
4. Gotham (56% male)
5. Supergirl (54% male)
6. Agents of SHIELD (52% male)

And those are literally the only dramas on broadcast TV that skew male. Everything else skews female.

All six are comic book shows. Lucifer is the only comic book show right now (we'll see how iZombie does later on) that skews female, and it's still 48% male.

This may be a factor that helps the longevity of these shows. It's traditionally much harder to reach male viewers with dramas versus, say, comedies or live sporting events.

I do find it interesting that Supergirl skews more male than Lucifer. I would have guessed the opposite.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

And those are literally the only dramas on broadcast TV that skew male. Everything else skews female

All six are comic book shows. Lucifer is the only comic book show right now (we'll see how iZombie does later on) that skews female, and it's still 48% male.

This may be a factor that helps the longevity of these shows. It's traditionally much harder to reach male viewers with dramas versus, say, comedies or live sporting events.

I do find it interesting that Supergirl skews more male than Lucifer. I would have guessed the opposite.

Tom Ellis is major eye candy for the female audience and he has a British accent. D. B. Woodside (Amenadiel) is pretty hot too. Plus it's basically just a buddy cop show when you get down to it, and you did say most TV dramas skew female.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

Live+Same Day to Live+3 increase for the 11/28/16 "Medusa" episode of Supergirl.

18-49 demo
1.15 to 1.68, a 46% increase
Total viewers
3.53 million to 4.39 million, a 23% increase.

 

[Kelly]

Dang... a .5+ uptick....nice.

 

[famicommander]

The Legends of Tomorrow portion of the crossover adjusted up to a 1.2 rating and 3.39 million viewers.

That ties a series high in the rating and sets a new series high in total viewership

That also means that Supergirl's episode is the lowest rated of the four.

 

[Kelly]

I think people figured out pretty quickly that the only actual crossover scene was the scene that they put out before it aired, as it was one of the sneak peeks.

So, the others got the benefit of our viewership....SG, not so much the other way around. But hey, good for the other shows, Arrow and LoT certainly needed some solid ratings from it. Unbelievably stupid scheduling on the part of the CW....but, oh well it is what it is... Come Jan. 16th back to regular schedule without all of this craziness.

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah, and let's not forget the producers going around and clarifying in all their interviews that it was really a 3-night crossover between the other 3 shows, with just a little tease during Supergirl. Next year I do hope SG gets to be properly part of it. Maybe just set the whole thing on Earth-38 OR have the crossover kick-off on the Flash, and have the concluding installment of it be on that following Monday's SG. That would certainly give her show the ratings boost these other ones got, imo.

 

[Kelly]

Yeah, and let's not forget the producers going around and clarifying in all their interviews that it was really a 3-night crossover between the other 3 shows, with just a little tease during Supergirl. Next year I do hope SG gets to be properly part of it. Maybe just set the whole thing on Earth-38 OR have the crossover kick-off on the Flash, and have the concluding installment of it be on that following Monday's SG. That would certainly give her show the ratings boost these other ones got, imo.

I agree....the fact that you show the one scene that makes it even a part of the crossover as one of the sneak peeks, they couldn't have really thought that this crossover would be a big ratings grabber for SG. If they did, they were dumb.... LOL

 

[vantheman77]

Since Supergirl was the lowest-rated of the crossover this did nothing for her, but both Arrow and Legends needed the rub and got it. I don't think Supergirl really needs the crossover. I hope CW promotes Supergirl's return from hiatus with an episode by Kevin Smith.

 

[Kelly]

Since Supergirl was the lowest-rated of the crossover this did nothing for her, but both Arrow and Legends needed the rub and got it. I don't think Supergirl really needs the crossover. I hope CW promotes Supergirl's return from hiatus with an episode by Kevin Smith.

Well overall, Monday night was #2 behind Tuesday. It's all good... and I am sure that the CW will promote Supergirl's return just as it has all along. There has been no problem with promotion, except the fact that they were promoting the crossover as a 4 night event, while the showrunners and producers were talking about it really be a 3 night event. Again, not a biggie....it's all good.

 

[famicommander]

Since Supergirl was the lowest-rated of the crossover this did nothing for her, but both Arrow and Legends needed the rub and got it. I don't think Supergirl really needs the crossover. I hope CW promotes Supergirl's return from hiatus with an episode by Kevin Smith.

The crossover obviously did SOMETHING for Supergirl, considering it tied the season high rating. The only other episode to do these kind of numbers was the season premiere + full debut of Superman.

We'll likely see another boost for the Flash/Supergirl musical crossover.

The season high for the last three Arrow seasons all featured Barry. The series high also featured Barry.

The season/series high for Legends of Tomorrow featured Barry.

Last season's Flash crossover boosted Supergirl significantly above its baseline and the season high from this season featured Barry.

Barry is what drives ratings in these crossovers. He's the only true A-lister besides Superman that we've seen on screen in the entire multiverse.

 

[Kelly]

The crossover obviously did SOMETHING for Supergirl, considering it tied the season high rating. The only other episode to do these kind of numbers was the season premiere + full debut of Superman.

We'll likely see another boost for the Flash/Supergirl musical crossover.

The season high for the last three Arrow seasons all featured Barry. The series high also featured Barry.

The season/series high for Legends of Tomorrow featured Barry.

Last season's Flash crossover boosted Supergirl significantly above its baseline and the season high from this season featured Barry.

Barry is what drives ratings in these crossovers. He's the only true A-lister besides Superman that we've seen on screen in the entire multiverse.

Oh we definitely got a boost from it, no doubt....BUT, I think that boost was from those that don't follow the CW close enough to have seen the sneak peek and read interviews with the show runners. Sneak Peeks are supposed to GET people to watch the show, in this case, I think it simply let many know that there was no need for a fan of the other shows to watch Supergirl, whereas....fans of Supergirl certainly helped the other shows in a big way.

 

[famicommander]

I don't know that we can isolate the degree to which Supergirl helped the other shows.

Arrow ended up doing about what it always does in these crossovers, compensating for the overall decline year to year.

And this is the first major crossover Legends has had, so we have no basis for comparison.

Flash did get a bump, which it hadn't really seen before with Arrow crossovers, but it's hard to say how much of that is Supergirl and how much is Legends. Certainly Supergirl has a bigger average audience than Legends.

It will take a few more crossovers to really see what's going on.

Hopefully we get more smaller, two show crossovers so we can see the direct impact one show has on another. We saw a bit last year with Arrow/Legends, Arrow/Constantine, Arrow/Vixen, and Flash/Supergirl.

Now I want to see just Arrow/Supergirl, just Flash/Legends, just Legends/Supergirl, just Flash/Vixen etc.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Flash is the one who helps all the shows, that much has been proven. The big 100 also helped Arrow be #2 out of the 4 night crossover. Though I am sure that plenty of people were curious to see Supergirl in the other shows but I don't think she had as big of an impact as Flash did.

 

[Kelly]

The fewer the crossovers the better as far as I'm concerned... so far the two crossovers I've seen written by showrunners have been mediocre re at best....let the regular writers for the shows write them and maybe I will like them more.

 

[famicommander]

The fewer the crossovers the better as far as I'm concerned... so far the two crossovers I've seen written by showrunners have been mediocre re at best....let the regular writers for the shows write them and maybe I will like them more.

The smaller ones tend to fit more naturally within a season. When they aren't trying to balance two dozen characters and the continuing storylines of four shows.

The Constantine/Arrow crossover was one of the very few Arrow S4 episodes that most fans liked.

There are also many smaller crossovers without the lead characters being involved that seem to work out well. For example: Felicity popping over to Flash from time to time, Joe West and Cisco showing up on Arrow to investigate Eobard Thawne, Diggle and Harbinger in the King Shark episode of Flash, etc.

Only problem is, at the moment very few characters can hop between earths. Barry, Cisco, Kara, Harry Wells, Jesse Quick, and Jay Garrick are the only heroes that have been proven to be able to do it (though we've been told the Waverider can do it too, just haven't been shown).

Cisco needs to make more of those gizmos he gave Kara. It'd be cool to see Earth-2 and Earth-3 characters jumping to Earth-38 and the other Earth-1 shows without Barry's direct involvement.