BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 196

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[Nemeres]

Didn't seem to hurt steve rogers all that much.
Then again, fans weren't asking for 'all that much' with that one.

It's a good point, Cap got Winter Soldier after a team-up. Still, from where I stand a Cap solo series seemed like a bigger priority to Marvel then than a Superman solo seems to be to WB now. From a business perspective if nothing else, they obviously have different plans. And I don't have to reach as far as the rival studio, there are heavy rumblings already of a new series of batfilms by Affleck and Geoff Johns, while there's not much to be heard from MOS2, at least not from the big trustworthy trades. Maybe the degree of progress seems a bit disproportionate so far?

 

[WBwins]

It's a good point, Cap got Winter Soldier after a team-up. Still, from where I stand a Cap solo series seemed like a bigger priority to Marvel then than a Superman solo seems to be to WB now. From a business perspective if nothing else, they obviously have different plans. And I don't have to reach as far as the rival studio, there are heavy rumblings already of a new series of batfilms by Affleck and Geoff Johns, while there's not much to be heard from MOS2, at least not from the big trustworthy trades. Maybe the degree of progress seems a bit disproportionate so far?

True

 

[BlackStar]

It's a good point, Cap got Winter Soldier after a team-up. Still, from where I stand a Cap solo series seemed like a bigger priority to Marvel then than a Superman solo seems to be to WB now. From a business perspective if nothing else, they obviously have different plans. And I don't have to reach as far as the rival studio, there are heavy rumblings already of a new series of batfilms by Affleck and Geoff Johns, while there's not much to be heard from MOS2, at least not from the big trustworthy trades. Maybe the degree of progress seems a bit disproportionate so far?

To be fair, that's only reasonable. It's within Affleck's contract to direct a Batman film. It's also only natural that WB would want to take advantage of a director like Affleck, plus, I imagine that they wouldn't want to wait too long to produce a Battfleck film considering that Affleck isn't getting any younger.

In some ways, the only update with the Batman film is that Johns will be writing it with Affleck, otherwise, nothing has changed; the film won't be released before 2019, in m opinion.

Because Snyder is busy with the Justice League films, it obviously makes it harder for WB to transition into MOS 2. I am thinking that they may partner Terrio with a director at some point after Terrio finishes writing the second Justice League film.

WB announced both an MOS sequel and a new Batman film when they released their DC slate. There's no reason to believe that Superman is now being neglected, especially when we consider that he is the central figure in BVS, and that his villains (Luthor and possibly Brainiac) will play a major role in the DCEU going forward.

 

[Superchan]

I really don't understand why everyone is trippin, Superman will get his solo film but first lets hope BvS is good because non of that other stuff matters if it ain't.

 

[jokesonm3]

4 more threads to go til the 200 mark.

 

[Silliminite]

Perhaps Snyder will tweet something cool to celebrate Part 200.

 

[jokesonm3]

Here hoping page 200 happens before 2016, kind of like a feat of strength here.

 

[jokesonm3]

Hmm, here's a fun fact of the box office, here's minions domestic dox office results each week:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=minions.htm

And here's Man of Steels domestic weekend gross each week:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=superman2012.htm


See the similarities? MoS had a slightly higher OW then minions yet thanks to the sabotage of both WWZ and monsters university MoS dropped more, in other words look at minions domestic, that is exactly what MoS cloud have made domestically.

 

[The Sage]

Not buying any of the rumors whether the Batman solo films or MOS 2 stuff. There's been too much back and forth with rumors, like the stuff with Chris Pine as Hal Jordan or Steve Trevor that I'd rather stick with what's official:

- There's a DC slate of films coming.
- A Batman solo and Superman sequel will be part of the slate but no dates have been announced for either.
- Affleck is directing the solo Batman film.

 

[Naked Shia]

not buying it either.

 

[Val_Zod]

Here hoping page 200 happens before 2016, kind of like a feat of strength here.

We'll zoom past that mark in no time.

 

[gdw]

Hmm, here's a fun fact of the box office, here's minions domestic dox office results each week:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=minions.htm

And here's Man of Steels domestic weekend gross each week:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=superman2012.htm


See the similarities? MoS had a slightly higher OW then minions yet thanks to the sabotage of both WWZ and monsters university MoS dropped more, in other words look at minions domestic, that is exactly what MoS cloud have made domestically.

While subsequent releases certainly have an effect, you can not extrapolate like that. Highly dishonest to suggest that would be exactly what MOS would have done domestically.

 

[jokesonm3]

Well it could have been more closer to that result if WWZ and Monsters university wasn't there.

Im hoping that BvS has less competition in march/april.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Honest predictions

Who do you think will be cast as Hal Jordan? News has to be coming between now and winter

 

[Rorschach2012]

I honestly think McConaughey and Gyllenhaal will be looked at. Gl is the last major Jl member I see them going with a big name instead of Affleck being the only name

 

[jokesonm3]

Well since justice leagues pre production starts in January for about a month or two then im guessing between that period is when we will get the casting of both GL and the main villain.

 

[CK_ALL_DAY]

Honest predictions

Who do you think will be cast as Hal Jordan? News has to be coming between now and winter

 

[Naked Shia]

 

[Boom]

I say this knowing full well that I could be completely wrong, but I still have doubts regarding the whole Batfleck trilogy rumor.

I mean we're talking about BvS, JL1, JL2, and three Batman solos. That's six films with shoots no less than eight months each. That's a significant amount of time. Not to mention his desire to continue writing/directing, where he's at the top of his game right now.

Again, could I be wrong? Of course. Would I be down to see the same actor play Batman in six films? Absolutely. But when Affleck accepted the role, I sort of resigned myself to the fact that we'd see him limited to the Justice League franchise, with maybe one solo film on top.

 

[CaptainWagner]

I honestly think McConaughey and Gyllenhaal will be looked at. Gl is the last major Jl member I see them going with a big name instead of Affleck being the only name

They'll have to beat Marvel to the punch, if the rumors of McConaughey being offered Norman Osborne are true.

 

[WoodyROM]

Not buying any of the rumors whether the Batman solo films or MOS 2 stuff. There's been too much back and forth with rumors, like the stuff with Chris Pine as Hal Jordan or Steve Trevor that I'd rather stick with what's official:

- There's a DC slate of films coming.
- A Batman solo and Superman sequel will be part of the slate but no dates have been announced for either.
- Affleck is directing the solo Batman film.

^ This

 

[jokesonm3]

Well think about it from the perspective of Marvel and Robert Downey Jr, right now its no denying that RDJ in a marvel film as iron man equals instant box office success for marvel and Disney and RDJ has already been in 3 iron man films, 2 avengers films and civil war with (hopefully) more on the way.

And i can safely say not from a fanboys perspective that Batman is a bigger franchise then iron man and im guessing that WB/DC wants to get him in as many films as possible before Affleck does what RDJ does and demands more.

Plus i think that this phase 2016-2020 we'll get BvS, two JL films and one batman film, next phases will incorporate another batman film etc and so on, plus Ben Affleck releases films like once every couple of years other days his on other films, and his a HUGE batman fan that would probably love to do this for as long as he can.

Im guessing that the three solo Batman films will be stretched out to being once every 3-4 years like the Nolan films in order to let affleck do his other films and not create Batman fatigue.

 

[Juke Box Hero]

The standing ovation "scoop" was a generic thing to say, didn't buy into the Batfleck thing into the first place, and am not buying into this MOS 2 rumor either.