Comics Am I the only one who still loves John Byrne's Superman?

[Young Superman]

Just wonding, Title says it all.

 

[ironman29758]

It's not that I don't like John Bryne Superman(I'm a silver/bronze/geof john/birthright/donnerverse/smallville fan) but I didn't approve of some of the things Bryne did(he had superman kill Zod and the phantom zone criminals, clark a football player) sure he made Clark a more important aspect in the superman mythos and I love reading MOS miniseries but I wish he didn't change some parts of the origin. there are many fans of John Bryne superman on this board.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

To be honest, I was a little underwhelmed when I read "The Man of Steel".

You hear so much about John Byrne's Superman, and I was expecting something extremely epic and well told. What I got instead was something GOOD. . . but strangely generic.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

double post

 

[Motown Marvel]

i may not agree with everything byrne's did, but he still did a great job, and certainly better than most.

 

[NeoRanger]

You will have to be a little bit more specific. I like a lot of the concepts introduced in that era (which can't be solely attributed to Byrne to begin with), but I'm not crazy about the actual stories.

 

[Young Superman]

The Byrne era Krypton for instance he completely explained why/how Kal-El was Krypton's sole survivor.

 

[ironman29758]

The Byrne era Krypton for instance he completely explained why/how Kal-El was Krypton's sole survivor.

sure making Superman the last survivor of krypton again was great but personally I like the whole Kara Zor-el who is Superman's cousin, kandor the kryptonian city, phantom zone criminals from krypton and 28 galaxies and Brainiac the kryptonian robot for some reason

 

[Young Superman]

Everyone has their own tastes. I prefer Kal-El to be the last survivor of krypton.

 

[Mace Dolex]

When one thinks of Bryne's Superman you can't help but think of the all his stories that have that 80's feel to it.

The MOS mini-series certaintly owes it's similarities to the Richard Donner films and the subsequent Superman line of stories were self contained.

 

[DavidTyler]

To be honest, I was a little underwhelmed when I read "The Man of Steel".

You hear so much about John Byrne's Superman, and I was expecting something extremely epic and well told. What I got instead was something GOOD. . . but strangely generic.

Everyone who reads MOS has to keep in mind that it wasn't created to be some big epic. It was created to restart the continuity. Byrne and Wolfman never intended for it to be anything else. ...And, as I've said many times before .... Bryne is a GREAT idea man but not as good as some when it comes to writing characters. Byrne's concepts in MOS stem from a lot of thought about plausibility.

You will have to be a little bit more specific. I like a lot of the concepts introduced in that era (which can't be solely attributed to Byrne to begin with), but I'm not crazy about the actual stories.

Again... there are people who are very good at writing characters. Byrne's strong suit is coming up with believable concepts. There are other writers who can write characters well (waid, Johns) but who absolutely SUCK at coming up with solid, fluid, linear concepts. Both Waid and Johns have weaknesses in that area.

The Byrne era Krypton for instance he completely explained why/how Kal-El was Krypton's sole survivor.

When one thinks of Bryne's Superman you can't help but think of the all his stories that have that 80's feel to it.

The MOS mini-series certaintly owes it's similarities to the Richard Donner films and the subsequent Superman line of stories were self contained.

As they should. Byrne developed his version of Superman based on many sources. The original Seigel/Shuster interpretation, the George Reeves series from the 1950's, AND the Donner film. Surprisingly enough... Byrne cites Donner's Krypton as an influence on his own interpretation. He found Donner's Krypton to be cold and aloof so that was how he came up with the distopia of his version. I should add here for the people who will flame this post ... Byrne also wrote a good handful of stories dealing with Krypton's earlier periods where the Kryptonians were barechested and brimming with emotion and passion. It was a path to the distopia that we saw in MOS #1. It was a very organic progression.

 

[Comics N' Toons]

I might get flamed for saying this, but

The MOS mini-series is amazing. A great jumping off point for a new fan...

I hate JG's take on Supes... always have... To convoluted. I like the classic stuff, or at least the simpler stuff.

Adding other Kryptonians has always been contradictory to Supes... He's supposed to be the last of his kind.

I ADORE Byrne's MOS series.

 

[Young Superman]

I might get flamed for saying this, but

The MOS mini-series is amazing. A great jumping off point for a new fan...

I hate JG's take on Supes... always have... To convoluted. I like the classic stuff, or at least the simpler stuff.

Adding other Kryptonians has always been contradictory to Supes... He's supposed to be the last of his kind.

I ADORE Byrne's MOS series.

Agreed, well said.

 

[Mace Dolex]

It's because of John Bryne's short stint on Incredible Hulk that I got interested in his Superman.

DC has been putting out volumes of the John Bryne/Jerry Ordway Superman stories but they've suddenly stopped doing them.

 

[Czar Colossus]

Byrne's Superman marked the start of my Superman comic collection. I have been reading Superman consistently ever since. While I didn't always like everything he did, it was my jumping on point and I feel that he really emphasized the point that Clark is the REAL person and Superman is the vehicle with which to use his abilities. I just love Superman and always look for the best aspects of all interpretations.t:

 

[Comics N' Toons]

I just love Superman and always look for the best aspects of all interpretations.

Very good Sir! That is how I collect as well. I think the classic interpretations are the truest!

Very well said!

 

[Comics N' Toons]

I just love Superman and always look for the best aspects of all interpretations.

Very good Sir! That is how I collect as well. I think the classic interpretations are the truest!

Very well said!

 

[Pythagoras]

This is my favorite interpretation of Superman. Hope the reboot movies be based off his comics.

 

[Young Superman]

Me too

 

[Kal-El Fan]

Am I the only one who still loves John Byrne's Superman?


No.

 

[Mace Dolex]

This is my favorite interpretation of Superman. Hope the reboot movies be based off his comics.

Highly unlikely, Byrne's Superman revamp isn't as often mentioned or touted as Batman Year One.

With Superman it's different since he's revamped every 10 years or so and whoever they choose to direct and write it might choose a more recent Superman storyline as a guide.

 

[Comics N' Toons]

Highly unlikely, Byrne's Superman revamp isn't as often mentioned or touted as Batman Year One.
With Superman it's different since he's revamped every 10 years or so and whoever they choose to direct and write it might choose a more recent Superman storyline as a guide.

The makers of the film could still use the tone and flavor of this revamped version of Supes... this is the arc that most fans will tell you is quintessential and I'm sure if a Supes film was made this way some fans would cream their pants.

I think I may be the only Superman fan who COMPLETELY REJECTS Smallville TV continuity. To me, Supes is the last son of Krypton. He met Lex in Metropolis. He never knew Lois in Smallville.

 

[Bad Superman]

<---------------- Fan of Byrne's Superman Yeeehhhh. . .

 

[Mace Dolex]

The makers of the film could still use the tone and flavor of this revamped version of Supes... this is the arc that most fans will tell you is quintessential and I'm sure if a Supes film was made this way some fans would cream their pants.

In fact the pilot episode of Lois & Clark captured the spirit perfectly but then it turned into a Moonlighting version of Supes

I think I may be the only Superman fan who COMPLETELY REJECTS Smallville TV continuity. To me, Supes is the last son of Krypton. He met Lex in Metropolis. He never knew Lois in Smallville.

You're not alone, I got tired of Smallville after the 1st season, what with my late working hours I quickly lost interest and am scratching my head how it's lasted this long.

 

[Cain]

I prefer the Superman we have now to that particular Superman tbh and I grew up on this interpretation it's just I find it pretty dull compared to what we have now. I do miss the Metropolis Clark Kent from the Byrne, Kessel, Jurgens and even Loeb days, that was a lot more interesting than the metropolis Clark we've seen post-Infinite Crisis.