The Amazing Spider-Man Amazing Spidey Video Game Thread. - Part 7

[GENERAL RAAM582]

Now, we must have another trailer.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

They felt it was exactly like how you've always battled Rhino (which is pretty funny 'cause you did that only in Spider-Man (PSX) and Spider-Man 2 for PC if I remember correctly).

That's right

I agree, the Rhino fight is the better one IMO. The only thing that makes the Bane fight cool is the free flow combat against the goons, which is present in the whole game anyway.

Thugs should never be thrown in a boss fight if they serve no purpose for gameplay, they're nothing more than a stab in the arse

Now it's been at least two years since I played the game, but I will give you that Venom and Doc Ock sounded good. Just because a famous voice actor is doing it doesn't mean it's good.

You're right about famous performers not meaning it's good, but they did a good job, SM wasn't the only good voice
I agree that SD has generally better voice acting, and I agree that Marquette performance is fine and pleasant to listen to

"LtCoolDee: Well, of course there will be additional costumes to unlock! " via Dee Brown on Twitter

Took them long enough to confirm.

EDIT: Regarding "fall-damage"

LtCoolDee @VenomSpawnSHH Can't remember what happens in Arkham but in ASM, Spider-Man uses his web at the last second to land safely (cool anim btw)

So I won't be able to kill him if I wish to do so?
That's one cool point off from this game

 

[Anno_Domini]

Now, we must have another trailer.

With another villain reveal too.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

With another villain reveal too.

Yeah, that will be better

 

[Troy_Parker]

Thugs should never be thrown in a boss fight if they serve no purpose for gameplay, they're nothing more than a stab in the arse

They do have a purpose though...

They're trying to stop you from beating the boss/making it more difficult for you to win.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

They do have a purpose though...

They're trying to stop you from beating the boss/making it more difficult for you to win.

PURPOSE FOR GAMEPLAY, NOT USELESS PLOT DEVICE

Batman Arkham Asylum repeated that mistake, over and over and over again:
Titan + Thugs
Two titans + thugs
Boss + thugs
Boss 2 + thugs
Joker buffed up boss + thugs


EEEENOOOOOOUUGH

Then someone says that game is overrated and gets the lamest "It deserves the score it gets" and "You don't know what you're talking about". Plus that guy's favorite "Moronic"
This half-assed thing passed as "quality" product, and people ignore the mediocrity they have on behalf of minor good stuff

It's mediocre, I'm sorry, but you can't change my view, that's how the game is, it didn't raise the bar for anything, it's the most overrated SUB-PAR game. Combat and stealth take downs are fine fun, and the rest of the fun is little else

 

[VenomSpawn]

ITT: Opinions

 

[Spider-Aziz]

ITT: Opinions

Want to make an opinion, at least back it up with something other than drooling over something for whatever reason, or just say "I like it cause it's fun imo", don't describe something for what it is not

 

[dtud]

The boss fights in in Arkham Asylum wasn't that good no, (for example, the boss fights in SD was way ahead of them) but it didn't stop AA from being a quality game.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

The boss fights in in Arkham Asylum wasn't that good no, (for example, the boss fights in SD was way ahead of them) but it didn't stop AA from being a quality game.

Boss fights in SMSD sure are miles better than the chore they're in BAA, and BAA is better as a game in everything else, but.......................

If you want their attention to graphical details, fine
You want the way they reference comics and other stuff done for the character before, that's cool
You want it ironed from bugs, accepted
The way they hired a great writer to scribe for the a detailed story, ok, I'm with you until this

BUT DEVS MUST GIVE MORE CARE FOR GAMEPLAY, MAKE IT MORE VARIED, LOWER THE CHORUS PAINFUL REPEATED STYLE TASKS, AND NOT ONE ATTACK BUTTON AND THE OTHER FOR COUNTER.

PoP:TFS gave a sword button, a kick (you can use anytime, not at specific given times), and devs made sure gameplay has some more stuff, more varied puzzles and stuff, instead of being the chore BAA is, and kept becoming every walkthrough

I don't want a mediocre game to inspire for better games cause people drool on the mediocre game, NO, NA-AH, NIEN, NIET, LA, NA, FORGET IT. Just cause more people agree on how true their urban myth is, doesn't make it true, same goes for BAA

 

[UltimateWebhead]

"LtCoolDee: Well, of course there will be additional costumes to unlock! " via Dee Brown on Twitter

Took them long enough to confirm.

EDIT: Regarding "fall-damage"

LtCoolDee @VenomSpawnSHH Can't remember what happens in Arkham but in ASM, Spider-Man uses his web at the last second to land safely (cool anim btw)

Awesome. I just joined twitter too under my SHH username and saw his reply to your question. Bonus costumes FTW. And I like how they include an animation for Spidey to save himself from splatting.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Want to make an opinion, at least back it up with something other than drooling over something for whatever reason, or just say "I like it cause it's fun imo", don't describe something for what it is not

If you don't think AA is a great game, that's fine, but don't bash someone for liking it. Have you played any Batman games prior to the release of Asylum? I have...they sucked massive balls. AA was an immediate breath of fresh air to the batman franchise and if it's not so great then why are so many other developers copying Rocksteady's design? Every game...EVERY. GAME. has repetition within it, there's no use trying to avoid it.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Boss fights in SMSD sure are miles better than the chore they're in BAA, and BAA is better as a game in everything else, but.......................

If you want their attention to graphical details, fine
You want the way they reference comics and other stuff done for the character before, that's cool
You want it ironed from bugs, accepted
The way they hired a great writer to scribe for the a detailed story, ok, I'm with you until this

BUT DEVS MUST GIVE MORE CARE FOR GAMEPLAY, MAKE IT MORE VARIED, LOWER THE CHORUS PAINFUL REPEATED STYLE TASKS, AND NOT ONE ATTACK BUTTON AND THE OTHER FOR COUNTER.

PoP:TFS gave a sword button, a kick (you can use anytime, not at specific given times), and devs made sure gameplay has some more stuff, more varied puzzles and stuff, instead of being the chore BAA is, and kept becoming every walkthrough

I don't want a mediocre game to inspire for better games cause people drool on the mediocre game, NO, NA-AH, NIEN, NIET, LA, NA, FORGET IT. Just cause more people agree on how true their urban myth is, doesn't make it true, same goes for BAA

 

[Troy_Parker]

It's mediocre, I'm sorry, but you can't change my view, that's how the game is, it didn't raise the bar for anything, it's the most overrated SUB-PAR game. Combat and stealth take downs are fine fun, and the rest of the fun is little else

Yeah, I was lucky enough to see this bit first, so I ignored everything else you said.

 

[Troy_Parker]

If you don't think AA is a great game, that's fine, but don't bash someone for liking it. Have you played any Batman games prior to the release of Asylum? I have...they sucked massive balls. AA was an immediate breath of fresh air to the batman franchise and if it's not so great then why are so many other developers copying Rocksteady's design? Every game...EVERY. GAME. has repetition within it, there's no use trying to avoid it.

Repetition in Arkham Asylum never got boring for me, tbh.

It was so well done that you never really got bored by the amount of things you had to do over and over again.

As opposed to in SD and WoS, where it actually told you to defeat 2837 of insert thug/device/whatever name here before progressing.

 

[Troy_Parker]

I don't want a mediocre game to inspire for better games cause people drool on the mediocre game, NO, NA-AH, NIEN, NIET, LA, NA, FORGET IT. Just cause more people agree on how true their urban myth is, doesn't make it true, same goes for BAA

I honestly don't get people like you who call the Arkham games mediocre.

Game developers, reviewers, etc have almost unanimously agreed that the Arkham games have raised the bar for superhero games...

So what exactly is it that you're not getting?

I respect your opinion, but I think you're wrong for thinking the boss fights are better in SD. The only boss fight that I hated was Joker's (at the end) in Arkham Asylum.

And, every game has receptivity to some degree, it's about how carefully/well that you're asked to do the same **** over and over again that matters. In SD and WoS, it literally felt like a chore. I never got that feeling in either of the Arkham games.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

If you don't think AA is a great game, that's fine, but don't bash someone for liking it.

I'm bashing the game, for being bashworthy

Have you played any Batman games prior to the release of Asylum?

Batman Begins, it's fairly decent for another half-baked movie game, out of the car levels

I have...they sucked massive balls. AA was an immediate breath of fresh air to the batman franchise and if it's not so great then why are so many other developers copying Rocksteady's design?

Because people were impressed by that lame thing

Every game...EVERY. GAME. has repetition within it, there's no use trying to avoid it.

You're telling me that, I keep repeating this point to people "REPETITIVE, BAH", they bash some game harshly for being repetitive, then praise other games -even more repetitive ones- as being a gift from heaven

Of course I'd buy some repetitive or giving a formula, but deliver it right, and please, pretty please gamers and critics everywhere, be reasonable in commending a game or complaining about it, don't go over the top if you don't actually intend doing it from comedic standpoint and you're a comical internet reviewer, BE-EFFING-REASONABLE

Reviews like: "Hey, you know that Arkham Asylum game? It has boss battles less impressive than -say- Uncharted, but that's ok, it deserves a 9.3/10"
Then people go "YUMMY", glorious game.

Games get repetitive, true, but not in repeating the same boss battles and 10+ minions every time with the boss

Then I try to relate, I try to agree, I tell people what's off with these reviews, and they shove me so hard for it and considered a troll for saying "You know that game most people bashing? It's actually better than this highly commended game" then I'm counted as a troll. DO YOU EXPECT ME NOT TO GET PISSED? REALLY? I'll be pissed and express it

The good game gets stupid criticism I display, I back my views by their contradiction, but I'm labeled DODO. I'm pissed, it's my right, I don't give my views based on , no, why am I considered the one making the mistake?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I honestly don't get people like you who call the Arkham games mediocre.

I stated everything about it, what's not to get? You experienced it all
What's...not..to...GET?
I don't get how people stick to commending mediocrity and defending it

Game developers, reviewers, etc have almost unanimously agreed that the Arkham games have raised the bar for superhero games...

No..eff no
What raised the bar? It's not bar raising material,

So what exactly is it that you're not getting?

I said it, go through it again, carefully this time, not just skimming

I respect your opinion, but I think you're wrong for thinking the boss fights are better in SD. The only boss fight that I hated was Joker's (at the end) in Arkham Asylum.

Boss fights in BAA:
Golem dies from poison
Golem + THUGS
Golem + Thug
2 Golems + Thugs
Scarecrow bones
Golem + Thugs
2 Golems
2 Golems + THUGS
Poison Ivy in giant plant + guards in trance
Golem Joker you just pull + Thugs

What am I wrong about?
Don't give me "You're wrong", cause I'm not

 

[Spider-Aziz]

And boss fights in SD? They were the highlight (plus voice acting) of that turd for a game, varied and a glimpse of positive points in levels in a extremely repetitive ridiculously formulated title

 

[UltimateWebhead]

I'm bashing the game, for being bashworthy?

Ok. Well the way you stated it you were bashing VenomSpawn.

Batman Begins, it's fairly decent for another half-baked movie game, out of the car levels?

BB was crap.

Because people were impressed by that lame thing?

Ouch.

You're telling me that, I keep repeating this point to people "REPETITIVE, BAH", they bash some game harshly for being repetitive, then praise other games -even more repetitive ones- as being a gift from heaven?

Every game is repetitive. There's no way around it. The bashing a game for being repetitive is because it has ineffective gameplay that results in you actually feeling like you're doing something extremely repetitive. The good games, the really good games do a nice job of making you forget about the repetitive nature of games by using rewarding gameplay features. Arkham is highly rewarding and an overall satisfying experience.

Of course I'd buy some repetitive or giving a formula, but deliver it right, and please, pretty please gamers and critics everywhere, be reasonable in commending a game or complaining about it, don't go over the top if you don't actually intend doing it from comedic standpoint and you're a comical internet reviewer, BE-EFFING-REASONABLE?

Arkham delivers it correctly. True the boss fights in Arkham are mostly not very exciting but that's one thing out of so many others. Nitpick all you want but honing in on one item is silly. The rest of the game plays excellent.

Reviews like: "Hey, you know that Arkham Asylum game? It has boss battles less impressive than -say- Uncharted, but that's ok, it deserves a 9.3/10"
Then people go "YUMMY", glorious game.

Games get repetitive, true, but not in repeating the same boss battles and 10+ minions every time with the boss

Then I try to relate, I try to agree, I tell people what's off with these reviews, and they shove me so hard for it and considered a troll for saying "You know that game most people bashing? It's actually better than this highly commended game" then I'm counted as a troll. DO YOU EXPECT ME NOT TO GET PISSED? REALLY? I'll be pissed and express it?

Reviews are just opinions bro. Everyone has one and a lot of them stink. SM3 got many bad reviews but that doesn't stop you from loving it. Take reviews with a grain of salt and don't let someone get under your skin just cause they don't like something that you really enjoy. If you like it, that's all that should matter. Chill out. Breathe man. t:

The good game gets stupid criticism I display, I back my views by their contradiction, but I'm labeled DODO. I'm pissed, it's my right, I don't give my views based on , no, why am I considered the one making the mistake?

I never labeled you a DODO and those that do are foolish and silly. Like what you like but don't try to convince others to think and act the same cause you'll end up miserable.

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

I want a new trailer now!

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Ok. Well the way you stated it you were bashing VenomSpawn.

Yeah, well, I don't like those tongue in cheek replies. Apologies about that VS

BB was crap.

Which is why I said "Fairly decent
For a half-baked
Movie tie-in
Out of the car levels"

Every game is repetitive. There's no way around it. The bashing a game for being repetitive is because it has ineffective gameplay that results in you actually feeling like you're doing something extremely repetitive.

Let me rephrase what I said: "I repeat pointing out how every game is repetitive to people complaining about repetition"

The good games, the really good games do a nice job of making you forget about the repetitive nature of games by using rewarding gameplay features. Arkham is highly rewarding and an overall satisfying experience.

Arkham delivers it correctly. True the boss fights in Arkham are mostly not very exciting but that's one thing out of so many others. Nitpick all you want but honing in on one item is silly. The rest of the game plays excellent.

Yes, cause a game where you do something you do during all boss battle half the time is a well developed well delivered game
Stealth and Riddler give some variety, but not enough

Reviews are just opinions bro. Everyone has one and a lot of them stink. SM3 got many bad reviews but that doesn't stop you from loving it. Take reviews with a grain of salt and don't let someone get under your skin just cause they don't like something that you really enjoy.

I would take them more seriously if they kept it at fair criticism and didn't go over-board with it. My God, most of the criticism that game gets is stuff like this:

• "Ultimate Spider-Man starts with a boss fight" Reponse -Awesome game (it's one of the good game BTW)
• "Web of Shadows start in post apocalyptic Manhattan" General response - Awesome game (turd)
• "Spider-Man 3 starts in a burning building" General response - What? How lame, the game sucks based on that

It gets really tiring, hence my constant relentless defense of it.
Want to make a point, make it stick, make it valid, don't make it contradicting with your thoughts of other stuff in the same vein, is that so hard to do?

If you like it, that's all that should matter. Chill out. Breathe man. t:

I try, but I can't accept too many punches to the face and the stomach

I never labeled you a DODO and those that do are foolish and silly.

Not pointing at you, sorry if it felt that way

Like what you like but don't try to convince others to think and act the same cause you'll end up miserable.

They should learn to not forcing theirs on me first

 

[Troy_Parker]

I don't get how people stick to commending mediocrity and defending it

You have no idea how funny this is, considering you think the Spidey games are better than the Arkham games. t:

No..eff no
What raised the bar? It's not bar raising material,

You clearly have not grasped anything that anybody has said.

Raised the bar as in NOT BEING ANOTHER ****** SUPERHERO GAME THAT PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT IN A MONTH'S TIME. <This applies to most Spider-Man games.

I said it, go through it again, carefully this time, not just skimming

Boss fights in BAA:
Golem dies from poison
Golem + THUGS
Golem + Thug
2 Golems + Thugs
Scarecrow bones
Golem + Thugs
2 Golems
2 Golems + THUGS
Poison Ivy in giant plant + guards in trance
Golem Joker you just pull + Thugs

As I've said, every game is repetitive to some extent. I'll let you have the Titan (not Golem, dammit) Joker one, but that's it. I personally had no problem with the others. The titan thugs + normal thug battles were nowhere near as mindnumbingly excruciating to fight as some of the stuff in SD, WoS, etc was.

What am I wrong about?
Don't give me "You're wrong", cause I'm not

You're wrong in the way that you think the Arkham games are mediocre. I do see what you mean, but I don't agree with you. If you honestly think the Arkham games are mediocre, well... then... I have no words.

At the end of the day, you're not going to accept the Arkham games as the superior ones, so there's no point.

 

[Troy_Parker]

Every game is repetitive. There's no way around it. The bashing a game for being repetitive is because it has ineffective gameplay that results in you actually feeling like you're doing something extremely repetitive. The good games, the really good games do a nice job of making you forget about the repetitive nature of games by using rewarding gameplay features. Arkham is highly rewarding and an overall satisfying experience.

This. Oh, God, this.

Arkham delivers it correctly. True the boss fights in Arkham are mostly not very exciting but that's one thing out of so many others. Nitpick all you want but honing in on one item is silly. The rest of the game plays excellent.

Agreed.

I never labeled you a DODO and those that do are foolish and silly. Like what you like but don't try to convince others to think and act the same cause you'll end up miserable.

I agree...

But... honestly, Aziz... if you think the Arkham games are mediocre, you're going to get the odd "HEY!... you're a dodo!". t:

Apart from your opinions on the Arkham games, you're a cool guy, Aziz.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Let me rephrase what I said: "I repeat pointing out how every game is repetitive to people complaining about repetition"

I agree with you. Making an argument about a game being bad just because it's repetitive is silly. All games are repetitive to some degree and some more than others. It's just in how the game is perceived by the player. For some, a game may suck really hard because they don't like the gameplay and it will feel ultra repetitive and others may not see it that way. Perception is key here.

Yes, cause a game where you do something you do during all boss battle half the time is a well developed well delivered game
Stealth and Riddler give some variety, but not enough


I would take them more seriously if they kept it at fair criticism and didn't go over-board with it. My God, most of the criticism that game gets is stuff like this:

• "Ultimate Spider-Man starts with a boss fight" Reponse -Awesome game (it's one of the good game BTW)
• "Web of Shadows start in post apocalyptic Manhattan" General response - Awesome game (turd)
• "Spider-Man 3 starts in a burning building" General response - What? How lame, the game sucks based on that

It gets really tiring, hence my constant relentless defense of it.
Want to make a point, make it stick, make it valid, don't make it contradicting with your thoughts of other stuff in the same vein, is that so hard to do?

Boss fights are only a small aspect of the overall game and although I found most of the boss fights in AA, especially the underwhelming Joker final fight, to be less than satisfactory it didn't really take away anything from the experience of the game.

Like I said, reviews are opinions. They're not facts. Just cause someone bashes SM3 for being repetitive or whatever and then praises another game that does the same stuff, doesn't make it true. Believe what you want and like what you want.

I try, but I can't accept too many punches to the face and the stomach

Eh, just let the punches roll off bro. The more people think they're getting under your skin the more they'll punch. Be indifferent.

Not pointing at you, sorry if it felt that way

No worries. I wasn't taking anything you said personal. I like you Aziz you're a good guy...but it seems like you take things to heart too much. Just chill. t: