Americans Rank Lincoln As Top President

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  1. Showtime Your Friend In Time

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    http://news.aol.com/story/_a/americans-rank-lincoln-as-top-president/20080216154509990001

     
  2. Morg Super Moderator

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    except for C lee no one lived in that time so how can they know he's the best one? ;)
     
  3. Matt IKYN Guy Groupie

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    People vote for whoever is fresh in their minds or whoever is the most recognizable name, which is why Reagan won that Time Warner poll that was taken right after his death.

    Franklin Roosevelt was probably the best president in history, but his name will never be as recognizable as Washington or Lincoln so he will never be as highly ranked. Reagan will drop probably to 11 or 12 after a decade or so.
     
  4. Venom'sDad Enter The Sym

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    Washington, as this nation's 1st President, help lay the Foundation of this Nation.

    Lincoln successfully saved the Foundation of this Nation.

    Reagan remarkably redefined the Foundation of this Nation.

    I think that's why they are graciously remembered.
     
  5. rdh007 Brit Wannabe

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    FDR FTW!!!
     
  6. Matt IKYN Guy Groupie

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    Reagan will not be looked upon as kindly in 10 or 20 years. Once the Cold Warrior generation dies out and history begins to reflect the fact that the Soviet Union would've fell regardless of if it were Reagan or Mondale due to its own economic policies, factored in with the longterm effects of Reagan-omics becoming more apparent...he will be remembered between 12 and 15.
     
  7. rdh007 Brit Wannabe

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    When I was 18 (in 1992), I believed in the Reagan myth. Then I grew up.
     
  8. StorminNorman Registered

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    I think Franklin Roosevelt is one of the most overrated Presidents in history - and he IS almost as recognizable as Washington or Lincoln.

    Truman deserves far more praise than he gets. As does Teddy.
     
  9. SuBe Voluntaryist

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    Agreed.

    The New Deal actually hurt this Nation more than anything Reagen ever did. Nothing like relying on the government.
     
  10. Showtime Your Friend In Time

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    Heh Heh. ZING.

    I think William Henry Harrison is underated.

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  11. Venom'sDad Enter The Sym

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    LOL Matt, you state that as if it's fact; it's just your opinion. You have made your feelings well known about Reagan, so I think there's some bias there.

    The fact of the matter is, no one can say with certainty, how a future civilization would view a former President. Your statement is very suggested.






    BTW... President Filmore, "Soap on a Rope" :D
     
  12. The Senator Registered

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    Allan Lichtman, a Presidential scholar at my university, agrees with Matt's sentiments.
     
  13. The Senator Registered

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    James K. Polk deserves more recognition than he gets, but it looks like this poll completely ignored him.
     
  14. Malice BMFH

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    yeah, he died 30 days in office, getting pneumonia at his inauguration.
    That is sad...
     
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    He was giving a long winded speech, in the rain, when most of the people had already left :(
     
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    Taft got stuck in a bathtub... he was like the Cartman of presidents...
     
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    The problem with Lincoln is that for all the good he did in keeping the nation together all the evil that he did to do it is overlooked. He gets credit for freeing the slaves, but nobody mentions that he only did it to keep England from helping the South. IMO, Lincoln is just as bad a President as the incompetent idiot in the House today.
     
  18. The Chairman Pimps' Main Prophet

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    Count me in on the FDR bandwagon.
     
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    Yep, I agree FDR is probably the best. FDR, Washington, and Lincoln were probably the 3 greatest by far. Washington set the precedent for only having 2 terms and of course was a great leader in helping us become a nation to begin with before he was ever President, and of course Lincoln was the President when America was at its ugliest and most divided. FDR fought off the Great Depression and fought back in WWII.
     
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    I honestly think that Nixon gets a bad rap too. IMO he was one of, if not the bst President when it came to foriegn affairs. Of course his abilities get slammed into the ground by Watergate. Without that, I wonder how he would be rated.
     
  21. The Dude Believe the impossible

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    Well he did maintain the status quo through his entire tenure of office
     
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    Nixon was fantastic outside of Watergate.
     
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    FDR and Lincoln fall to the might of pre-Watergate Nixon.
     
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