Andre Braugher in FF2???

[hey yo its sean]

I hear Denis Leary's being cast as Galactus.

 

[zer00]

According to the movie descrip that's what it sounds like. Military must go after SS. Maybe after the FF figure him out they try to save him.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Braugher rocks no mater what the role. He was the **** in City of Angels.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Again, this is a satisfactory development in my opinion.

Braugher is too big of an actor (in terms of recognizability and TV "A-List" status) to be *wasted* on a bit part.

This military general must have a pivotal role in this film.

 

[Exile]

I am very excited by this. A Braugher is a fine actor!

 

[Elisha Cuthbert]

I hear Denis Leary's being cast as Galactus.

I know this is getting ridiculous...personally i'm glad Leary is staying out of this, all of the other FX stars are ****es...I can see Danny Devito or somebody joining the cast though.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Again, this is a satisfactory development in my opinion.

Braugher is too big of an actor (in terms of recognizability and TV "A-List" status) to be *wasted* on a bit part.

This military general must have a pivotal role in this film.

Ehhh. Kind of the same could have been said about Bill Duke though.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Ehhh. Kind of the same could have been said about Bill Duke though.

You...have a point.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

When you think about it, why does Galactus have a "herald"? It seems to me, SS's job would be to take out any military, etc. that a planet has so that Galactus can stroll in, chow down and take off.

Explain to me, why does a force of nature, a cosmic being, a "GOD", need someone to take care of a planets defenses?
It never mattered to him in the comics, and it doesn´t make sense for him in the movie...unless they are going to make Galactus into a evil imperial dictator, in the likes of Star Wars, but in that case, why would be need an herald, why not enter with all guns blazing with an enormous army?

Silver Surfer´s mission is to find planets and prepare for his coming.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Explain to me, why does a force of nature, a cosmic being, a "GOD", need someone to take care of a planets defenses?
It never mattered to him in the comics, and it doesn´t make sense for him in the movie...unless they are going to make Galactus into a evil imperial dictator, in the likes of Star Wars, but in that case, why would be need an herald, why not enter with all guns blazing with an enormous army?

Silver Surfer´s mission is to find planets and prepare for his coming.

Might have helped him to have an advance scout and better intelligence when he tried to eat Popup and nearly died.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Might have helped him to have an advance scout and better intelligence when he tried to eat Popup and nearly died.

To expand a bit on that thought: In a universe in which a "God" such as Galactus can exist, other "Gods" will also exist if you travel far enough. Sure, the Earth is no match for Galactus, but how does he know that until the Surfer has investigated and tested it? (and even then, a threat such as the FF - dismissed at first - could cause a problem) It's simple common sense that even someone as powerful as Galactus should ensure a planet isn't going to pose a risk before he goes there.

Why even tell the story if Galactus is as powerful and infallable as you imply? Galuctus is all powerful, he eats whatever he wants whenever he wants, end of story.

 

[Rac]

Huh, I'm glad he isn't The Puppet Master.

 

[GoblinScrier]

I can see Andre and the military playing a huge part if the Surfer is coming to Earth to prepare for its destruction, I don't know if the Surfer will be facing cities with his power or just the F4. Heck, the military may not be called in until a certain iron clad monarch has taken over the powers of the Surfer (assuming that happens). Doom then makes the demands to conquer the planet and the military is called or even perhaps an invasion from Latveria to the USA. Anything could happen...

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

Why even tell the story if Galactus is as powerful and infallable as you imply? Galuctus is all powerful, he eats whatever he wants whenever he wants, end of story.

But that´s exactly the point.
Galactus should never be the bad guy in the story, just like he never is in the comics.
To eat planets is what he does, not because he is evil.
If an asteroid clashes against a planet, killing everyone, does it make it bad?
No, of course not, just the action of killing everyone is, but that´s collateral damage, not intentional.

If you take away the fact that Galactus is a force of nature, and not an evil being, you lose everything that makes Galactus great, and end with nothing more than a joke (a humanoid giant that eats planets).
In fact, i don´t even know if the "humanoid giant" would work in movie form...

 

[Franklin Richards]

If Galactus shows up the tone of the movie takes on a Disaster Film feel. FF doing damage control until of course Reed cuts a deal or tricks Galactus.

 

[multiplesantas]

And he previously won an Emmy for his role as Nick A****er on NBC's "Homicide."

Slightly off on the above quote. Andre Braugher won an Emmy for his role as Det. Frank Pembleton on NBC's "Homicide: Life on the Streets". He should have won more than one for that role, IMHO.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

But that´s exactly the point.
Galactus should never be the bad guy in the story, just like he never is in the comics.
To eat planets is what he does, not because he is evil.
If an asteroid clashes against a planet, killing everyone, does it make it bad?
No, of course not, just the action of killing everyone is, but that´s collateral damage, not intentional.

If you take away the fact that Galactus is a force of nature, and not an evil being, you lose everything that makes Galactus great, and end with nothing more than a joke (a humanoid giant that eats planets).
In fact, i don´t even know if the "humanoid giant" would work in movie form...

I agree partially . . . but both of us have only scratched at the surface thus far.

When I go to the mail-box and step on three ants along the way, am I evil? No. I didn't intend them any harm. From their point of view, I am a force of nature.

When I eat a fish sandwich, am I evil? No. I had no ill-will toward the fish. I just needed to eat and, unfortunately, the fish needed to die for me to eat it.

But sometimes I have to be careful when I eat. If I eat fugu, I better make sure that it is prepared properly or I'll die.

Galactus bears no ill-will toward humanity. Just like me with the ants or the fish, he does what he does and lives are lost in the process. That doesn't mean he isn't a being who thinks and plans and ensures his own survival. He's beyond a simple force of nature in that he is a thinking being. Not something that just randomly happens like your meteor example.

Some planets may present dangers to him. Since any planet is unknown to him until the Surfer has scouted it, it should be the Surfer's job to probe for any complications. The energy could be toxic to Galactus. There could be other beings more powerful than Galactus. There might be beings who aren't more powerful, but who are capable - through trickery or theft of an ultimate nullifier - of harming Galactus.

It's completely logical that the Surfer, when he finds a potential food source, would do more than simply tell Galactus it's there. He should learn a little bit about it and find out if there are any potential dangers to Galactus. He should test the defenses of the planet prior to Galactus' arrival.

I don't think that makes Galactus evil in any way. It just makes sense with how we have come to know Galactus over the years.

 

[highguard]

When I eat a fish sandwich, am I evil? No. I had no ill-will toward the fish. I just needed to eat and, unfortunately, the fish needed to die for me to eat it.

You know I think that you put this even bette than byrne ever did, probably due to space constaints but yeah, Galactus is not supposed to be evil in that we are like ants to him.

However the reason we eat fish and steaks and any other animal is that we think that they are not really very intelligent. The problem the surfer always had is that he is closer to us than Galactus is to him or us and so he had problems once he met alicia.

Ants and fish can't talk or aritculate anything, so we dismiss them, for instance I eat dolphin even though here in the USA a lot of people think they are intelligent but from my standpoint I can't verify that, so to me they are just another fish.

Language and the ability to communicate your thoughts is a defining characteristic of higher life forms. Every member of the human race carries this potential.

I think therefore that Galactus is in denial. He tries to ignore the fact that advanced life is not comparable to ants. He has to eat so he hides the truth from himself.

Nevertheless whatever the case, evil or not his actions are injurious to us and we do care. I don't know about the ants but if it was me and I had a chance to take down Galactus I would. Reed Richards (the worlds smartest man disagreed one time, using the force of nature argument). Well I say that a hurricane is a force of nature, that often takes life. If you could stop it would you. The tsunami in late 2004 took over 100K lives. If you could would you have stopped it.

WHen these things accur sometimes we ask God (for those who believe) why, why did you let it happen. We console ourselves with the thought that there is purpose in the grand scheme of things, but if we had the power would we not stop the pain and suffering, not being able to see a purpose in 100K lives being lost.

So when Reed had the opportunity to let Galactus die and he saved him, billions more died.

In my opinion he made a bad choice.

Galactus supposedly has a purpose in the grand scheme of things, but it is vague and in the marvel universe billions of beings would scream from the grave, What about "MY PURPOSE?"

Galactus seems to be an unecessary evil/force/whatever and given the chance to be rid of him why not take it. I would.

 

[Malus]

I agree partially . . . but both of us have only scratched at the surface thus far.

When I go to the mail-box and step on three ants along the way, am I evil? No. I didn't intend them any harm. From their point of view, I am a force of nature.

When I eat a fish sandwich, am I evil? No. I had no ill-will toward the fish. I just needed to eat and, unfortunately, the fish needed to die for me to eat it.

But sometimes I have to be careful when I eat. If I eat fugu, I better make sure that it is prepared properly or I'll die.

Galactus bears no ill-will toward humanity. Just like me with the ants or the fish, he does what he does and lives are lost in the process. That doesn't mean he isn't a being who thinks and plans and ensures his own survival. He's beyond a simple force of nature in that he is a thinking being. Not something that just randomly happens like your meteor example.

Some planets may present dangers to him. Since any planet is unknown to him until the Surfer has scouted it, it should be the Surfer's job to probe for any complications. The energy could be toxic to Galactus. There could be other beings more powerful than Galactus. There might be beings who aren't more powerful, but who are capable - through trickery or theft of an ultimate nullifier - of harming Galactus.

It's completely logical that the Surfer, when he finds a potential food source, would do more than simply tell Galactus it's there. He should learn a little bit about it and find out if there are any potential dangers to Galactus. He should test the defenses of the planet prior to Galactus' arrival.

I don't think that makes Galactus evil in any way. It just makes sense with how we have come to know Galactus over the years.

Great stuff, Willie! You sure knows your Galactus!

Remember the time the Impossible Man's planet actually invited Galactus to consume their world? I bet he wished he'd checked them out more carefully. (They turned themselves en masse into hot air and "killed" him with a case of indigestion.)

 

[highguard]

Yeah Willie knows his Galactus alright and that was a funny issue. I actually felt sorry for Glactus though, going out that way, death by hot air, Galactus did not deserve that, lol, but the popups had the right idea.

 

[Retroman]

Besides Alicia's dad he could also be playing the ''tough, confident U.S. military man" Story and co have apparently been searching for.
http://www.f4movies.com/news/0349.shtml

I guess i was right. Yah for me.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

Galactus bears no ill-will toward humanity. Just like me with the ants or the fish, he does what he does and lives are lost in the process. That doesn't mean he isn't a being who thinks and plans and ensures his own survival. He's beyond a simple force of nature in that he is a thinking being. Not something that just randomly happens like your meteor example.

When i described Galactus as a force of nature, i wasn´t meaning it literally, of course he is a thinking being.
He is a cosmic force, the closer to a God we will ever know...
Of course he bears no ill-will toward, just like he doesn´t bears any ill-will toward anyone, the thing is, the needs a planets live force to survive, he needs it´s energy.
The proof that he isn´t evil, is that he cares for them, that´s why he sends the Surfer, to warn them of his coming, to prepare themselfs for the inevitable.
You either run away or stay and die, some try to fight, but with no avail, to fight Galactus is to fight a God.

Some planets may present dangers to him. Since any planet is unknown to him until the Surfer has scouted it, it should be the Surfer's job to probe for any complications. The energy could be toxic to Galactus. There could be other beings more powerful than Galactus. There might be beings who aren't more powerful, but who are capable - through trickery or theft of an ultimate nullifier - of harming Galactus.

I bet that there aren´t many ultimate nullifier out there for anyone to steal, and to trick Galactus doesn´t make much sense.
And don´t give me the Impossible Man nonsense...

It's completely logical that the Surfer, when he finds a potential food source, would do more than simply tell Galactus it's there. He should learn a little bit about it and find out if there are any potential dangers to Galactus. He should test the defenses of the planet prior to Galactus' arrival.

Absolutely!
But to scout a planet, and to destroy it´s defenses are two completely diferent things, and this all started when you said that the Surfer´s job would be to take out any military.

The Surfer is an herald, and just like the title states, Norrin Radd´s mission is to, not only find and scout any planet to see if the energy is right for Galactus consumption, he also goes to announce his coming.

 

[Postman]

But that´s exactly the point.
If you take away the fact that Galactus is a force of nature, and not an evil being, you lose everything that makes Galactus great, and end with nothing more than a joke (a humanoid giant that eats planets).
In fact, i don´t even know if the "humanoid giant" would work in movie form...

Ya...I hope they just make him a nebulous Cloud.

 

[Malus]

Ya...I hope they just make him a nebulous Cloud.

And while we're at it, let's make the Joker a purple fog that giggles.

Yes, I know; a criminal in clown makeup is a lot easier to swallow than a 200-ft tall, purple-armored "God."

The FF have this rather unique disadvantage in that they often face adversaries that are cosmic in scale.
So sue 'em.

I really don't want to see Galactus' power marginalized like we just saw with Dark Phoenix. And it's almost impossible to imagine any filmmaker conveying Kirby's vision adequately.

If he can't be shown faithfully, let him be kept in the gigantic shadows of his incomprehensibly-huge ship...let it be half the size of the moon...
Like some Eric Von Daniken/Chariots of the Gods behemoth that would burn out your retinas if you laid eyes on him...

So...No nebulous cloud, please. It didn't work for Star Trek: The Motion Picture, and it would work even less so here.
Galactus is an entity, a being of seemingly God-like proportions.
You don't have to show him, but don't diminish him.

 

[Carp Man]

I guess i was right. Yah for me.

I knew he wasn't going to be Puppet Master. The film would be way to overcrowded then. FF, Silver Surfer, mabey an appearance from Galctus, and Dr. Doom is plenty of villians, and plenty to keep the FF busy. I just hope Story knows how to make them all fit. It could get ugly if it is not done right.