Annoying cop rant.

[black_dust]

**** the police, cus all they do is cuff us...(beat drops)

You got that all wrong

Its HELP the police.

Video evidence!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkYDxW30vS4

 

[terry78]

As soon as he tapped you, you shoulda been all "police brutality!" like Donkey in Shrek. Though some of the minority cops can act just as ass-hole-ish as the white ones in the hood. Trying to show off for their cracka ass cracka law buddies. No offense to any crackas on the Hype that are my friends.

 

[Superman79]

Yes my back was to him and I understand that he was trying to get my attention but I don't like it when strangers touch me and I come to this Library almost everyday, (for the net access mostly) the staff knows that I come in here and give me nods and hello's. He could have asked them instead of assuming I was some punk kid. This is the first time this has happened to me and I've been coming for years now, I'm trying to figure out why?

Is it because I'm a younger looking than my age black female wearing a Batman beeny (is that what it's called?)

Valid point about asking others, but as an officer he's more likely trained to deal with the person in question. WHat they refer to legally as an "encounter". YOu are not required to respond to questioning if it's only an encounter. Techincally, and legally, if that type of thing ever happens again, you can ask them "Is this an arrest or an encounter?" when they stammer and say it's not an arrest you can just say "Ok, thanks" and go back to what you were doing.

As for the possible profiling, sadly there are some dick cops out there who might well look at your skin and/or your outfit and assume badly...unfortunatly unless you have conclusive proof of the profiling and/or it was an aggregious assualt, there is little that can be done other than filing a complaint and watching it collect dust on a Captain's desk

 

[amazingfantasy15]

I think you're overreacting Spidey, so a cop wanted to make sure you weren't a kid skipping school big deal. Oh no he tapped you on the shoulder to get you're attention, that is the best way to get peoples attention when their back is turned.

 

[nosebleed.]

^exactly. Like I said before, if someone thinks you still look like a teenager then take it as a compliment instead of feeling negative about it.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

I'm assuming you never go to bars if someone making sure of your age is this much of a problem.

 

[Hades]

That sucks.

The cops always seem to harass me for some bloody reason.

Could the cops even do anything if you were a kid skipping school

 

[M@ssEffect]

You guys saying she's over reacting need a harsh reality check.

Sorry but she had every right to be annoyed. The underlying qualities of the officer's implications were probably more than evident to her.

 

[terry78]

Some states put untrained cops on duty By HOLBROOK MOHR, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 42 minutes ago



Four months into his job, a police officer in Mississippi holds a gun to the head of an unarmed teenager and puts him in a chokehold. A rookie officer in Illinois gets into a car chase that kills a driver. And a new campus policeman in Indiana shoots an unarmed student to death.

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Some are blaming these harrowing episodes on what an Associated Press survey found is a common practice across the country: At least 30 states let some newly hired local law enforcement officers hit the streets with a gun, a badge and little or no training.

These states allow a certain grace period — six months or a year in most cases, two years in Mississippi and Wisconsin — before rookies must be sent to a police academy. In many cases, these recruits are supposed to be supervised by a full-fledged officer, but that does not always happen.

The risks, some say, are high.

"You wouldn't want a brain surgeon who isn't properly trained. Someone shouldn't be out there carrying a badge and a gun unless they are qualified to be out there," said Jeremy Spratt, program manager of the Missouri Peace Officer Standards and Training Program.

No one seems to know how many untrained recruits are on the streets. But the practice appears to be most common among small-town police forces and sheriff's departments.

Many police chiefs interviewed for this story said that for years, they have used less-than-fully-trained officers without problems, and they strongly defended the practice for reasons of money and manpower.

It allows departments to put new hires on the streets right away, without waiting for them to go through police academy training, which is usually a full-time, weeks- or monthslong exercise during which the officer is not on duty but still on the payroll. In some places, there are waiting lists to get into the academy.

Also, some police forces see the grace period as a tryout, during which the department can decide whether the officer is going to work out before it invests thousands of dollars in police academy training. (In several states, if a recruit graduates from the academy, the police force is reimbursed by the state, but not if the officer fails to finish.)

"It lets the officer work for the department for an amount of time to make sure that's what they want to do and make sure that's the right person for the job," said Batesville, Miss., Police Chief Gerald Legge. "We get some people that work a few weeks and say, `This isn't what it was like on TV and this is not for me.'"

Chris Hollingsworth, 24, was hired two weeks ago by the Newton, Miss., police but is not scheduled to go to the academy until April. He said that he is working under the supervision other officers and that he isn't allowed to do much anyway.

"I can see how (the grace period) would be a positive thing as far as letting people see if this is what they want to do for a living," Hollingsworth said. "But I can also can see how it would be a negative thing because you're a real big liability until you go through the training and there's not much you're allowed to do."

In 2003, Robert Duplain, a 24-year-old rookie police officer at Ball State University in Indiana, fatally shot a student — three rounds in the chest and one in the head. The officer is facing a wrongful-death lawsuit.

Duplain had taken only a 40-hour "pre-basic course" consisting of mostly online classes and firearms training, said Rusty Goodpaster, director of Indiana's police academy. Indiana law allows new hires up to one year to go through the police academy, but they can take on enforcement duties before then if they take the pre-basic course, Goodpaster said.

Police said the victim, Michael McKinney, 21, had lunged at the officer, who was responding to a burglary call. McKinney's family said he had gone to the wrong home after a night of drinking.

"When someone's put in a situation where they're given a firearm and they're not trained as they should be, you're asking for trouble," said Tim McKinney, the student's father.

A university attorney would not comment on specifics of the case.

In Illinois, Janice Cole, a 58-year-old nurse, died in 2004 when a police SUV driven by Sparta Police Officer Misty McPherson slammed into Cole's car during a chase.

Charles Chapman, the lawyer who helped Cole's family win $5.4 million in a lawsuit, said a policy that allows officers up to six months to enroll in the academy contributed to the woman's death. McPherson had not even started basic training.

"She didn't even know how to turn the sirens on," Chapman said.

Sparta's police chief did not return a call for comment.

In Mississippi, Greenwood Police Officer Casey Wiggins was captured by surveillance cameras at a high school in the Mississippi Delta in December, pointing his weapon at an unarmed student, 17-year-old James Marshall. Marshall, who was not disciplined by the school or charged with a crime, is suing for $2 million.

Police recruits in Mississippi have two years to get trained, during which time they are supposed to be supervised by a full-fledged officer. But no other office was visible in the surveillance tapes during the confrontation.

"Not only could Mr. Marshall have been killed, innocent bystanders could have been killed as well," said Carlos Moore, the student's lawyer. "Clearly, if Mr. Wiggins had been trained, he would have conducted himself in a more appropriate manner."

Wiggins, through his attorney, has said that he did no wrong and that Marshall resisted when the officer approached a group of students to see what they were up to. A hearing is set for March to determine if the officer should face charges.

Some states — Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, Utah, Vermont and Wyoming — require training before officers are put on the force. Elsewhere, the rules are different.

"The minute I say, `I do,' I can carry out the laws of small-town West Virginia," said Chuck Sadler, law enforcement training coordinator for West Virginia, where recruits have 90 days to apply to the police academy.

Some states like Tennessee, which allows officers six months to attend a training academy, have considered eliminating the grace period, said Brian Grisham, executive secretary of Tennessee's Peace Officers Standards and Training.

"The days of `Barney Fife, here's your gun and go' are over. You have to be trained first," Grisham said. "There's too much liability."

 

[amazingfantasy15]

What underlying qualities? That she looked young? Holy crap, call Jesse Jackson, let's get a full investation going, a cop thought a black girl looked young and wanted to make sure she wasn't skipping school!

 

[M@ssEffect]

He had no business touching her 1.

He didn't have to approach her alone with the question, which I'm sure she probably was the only one asked. 2.

And three, she didn't even have to answer the bastard. But if she didn't she would've been harassed more so.

It's ridiculous how cops act these days. I'd love for you to spend a day in Brooklyn and just walk with me down a few streets, just to see how generally all Police factions act in cities.

 

[BRUTAL]

You over reacted, you were asked a simple question and you read into and flipped the f**k out, I don't condone hitting women but you seriously need to be slapped.

 

[Dope Nose]

I guess but it pissed me off. I'm 2 f**king 2 and don't really want to answer questions about how old I am because I'm a f**king adult who should be able to get on the damn 60 minute computer in peace.

right. because adults never have to answer questions from police. also, "2 f**king 2" reads "two f**king two", not twenty-two.

Him being white is an important part of the story because honestly after living in ohio for 22 years I've learned that some white people are...gasp! racist a-holes.

accusing a cop of profiling based solely on the fact that he was white? THAT'S profiling.

 

[BRUTAL]

He had no business touching her 1.
A light tap on the should to get someones attention is hardly assault...

He didn't have to approach her alone with the question, which I'm sure she probably was the only one asked. 2.
You have no idea who else was asked and neither does she, you're letting your personal, and heavily clouded ideas, about cops jade your perspective.

And three, she didn't even have to answer the bastard. But if she didn't she would've been harassed more so.
Once again, how do you have any clue what WOULD HAVE happened? Are you clairvoyant in addition to be uneducated?

It's ridiculous how cops act these days. I'd love for you to spend a day in Brooklyn and just walk with me down a few streets, just to see how generally all Police factions act in cities.
A police officer ASKS A QUESTION and all of a sudden he's out of line? If the police officers are *******s where you live that's how they are WHERE YOU LIVE. It's not like all the cops in the U.S. have secret meetings about how they can be *******s to the citizens.

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[M@ssEffect]

Yeah you guys are blind. It's official. I was thinking that this year would hold promise for the Hype. I was mistaken.

 

[nosebleed.]

He had no business touching her 1.

Its just a tap on the shoulder.

He didn't have to approach her alone with the question, which I'm sure she probably was the only one asked. 2.

Maybe she was the only young looking person there. She didn't specify who else was in the room with her. Cops look for truants...big deal.

And three, she didn't even have to answer the bastard. But if she didn't she would've been harassed more so.

He's a bastard for mistaking a young looking girl for someone skipping school?

It's ridiculous how cops act these days. I'd love for you to spend a day in Brooklyn and just walk with me down a few streets, just to see how generally all Police factions act in cities.

Nobody has respect for Cops anymore, good or bad ones...so if you're working in a thankless job then expect thankless service.

I SEE SPIDEY, do you live in Brooklyn?

 

[Lackey]

yeah, I hate cops, most of them suck...but even I think getting upset over this is a little much.

 

[BRUTAL]

Yeah you guys are blind. It's official. I was thinking that this year would hold promise for the Hype. I was mistaken.

Right... WE'RE blind... you have proven yourself to be not only uninformed but largely unintelligent as well. You let your belief system be dictated popular unmitigated bias and then accuse other people who know what they are talking about of not being able to "see". Way to completely deflate any credibility you may have had

 

[M@ssEffect]

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So I'm uneducated for dispensing my own personal opinion? Well excuse me, I would suppose you got dropped off the bus at about 10th grade. If you even managed high school in the first place.

But ignorant personal assaults aside.

I experience what she has everywhere. Not just New York. I travel. A lot. And the cop honestly had no right to touch her. Tap or an assaulting grab, it doesn't matter. He invaded her personal space and that is something they are trained to not do. Ever. He clearly broke such a rule on his own accord.

And how doesn't she know if she was sitting in the library? The point isn't "if" or "maybe" he did. I'm not even focusing on just her situation. His actions hold true to a particular type of "Blue Behaviour" all across the country. It's evident to me that the general consensus of the Police in large urban areas is "Guilty Until Proven innocent....especially minorities."

It's no misconception. It's no over reaction. It's a sad truth. To 'slap' her for being annoyed with something she knows to be a problem is going a bit far.

It all comes down to this, in her situation.

The cop invaded her space. He was wrong, and could've approached her differently.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

Yeah you guys are blind. It's official. I was thinking that this year would hold promise for the Hype. I was mistaken.

Why are we blind? Because we think a cop tapping someone on the should and asking a simple question isn't a big deal?

I've had crappy run-ins with police. I was pulled over for speeding once (10 miles over the limit), the traffic was very light and conditions were perfect, he read me the riot act like I was driving like a maniac and almost killed someone. That's out of line, asking a simple question about someone's age isn't.

 

[M@ssEffect]

Right... WE'RE blind... you have proven yourself to be not only uninformed but largely unintelligent as well. You let your belief system be dictated popular unmitigated bias and then accuse other people who know what they are talking about of not being able to "see". Way to completely deflate any credibility you may have had

I'm not uninformed nor am I "largely" unintelligent, but you attempting to label me so shows definitively how much so you are. But let's not get into that eh?

My "belief system" as you call it is dictated by personal experiences, and things I've seen all over the world. This earth is assed up and one of the things that makes it so assed up is the fact the people who are supposed to "Protect and Serve" us are also the people labeling us and disrespecting us. Why? Because they can. True Story, kid.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

So I'm uneducated for dispensing my own personal opinion? Well excuse me, I would suppose you got dropped off the bus at about 10th grade. If you even managed high school in the first place.

But ignorant personal assaults aside.

I experience what she has everywhere. Not just New York. I travel. A lot. And the cop honestly had no right to touch her. Tap or an assaulting grab, it doesn't matter. He invaded her personal space and that is something they are trained to not do. Ever. He clearly broke such a rule on his own accord.

And how doesn't she know if she was sitting in the library? The point isn't "if" or "maybe" he did. I'm not even focusing on just her situation. His actions hold true to a particular type of "Blue Behaviour" all across the country. It's evident to me that the general consensus of the Police in large urban areas is "Guilty Until Proven innocent....especially minorities."

It's no misconception. It's no over reaction. It's a sad truth. To 'slap' her for being annoyed with something she knows to be a problem is going a bit far.

It all comes down to this, in her situation.

The cop invaded her space. He was wrong, and could've approached her differently.

It was a light tap to get her attention. You're totally overreacting.

 

[M@ssEffect]

Why are we blind? Because we think a cop tapping someone on the should and asking a simple question isn't a big deal?

No because if you can't open your mind and attach this same situation to ones of a similar yet more intense state when it's an obvious event that happens every single day....

I mean it's a big deal when you've gone through the discrimination and the harassment.

 

[M@ssEffect]

It was a light tap to get her attention. You're totally overreacting.

A light tap on the shoulder he -was not- supposed to do. You get me?

 

[BRUTAL]

So I'm uneducated for dispensing my own personal opinion? Well excuse me, I would suppose you got dropped off the bus at about 10th grade. If you even managed high school in the first place.

Basically yeah, your "opinion" is an uneducated one. What do you know of police officers outside of your jaded little perspective... more than likely nothing. UNeducated.

But ignorant personal assaults aside.

Because you're so "above" that...

I experience what she has everywhere. Not just New York. I travel. A lot. And the cop honestly had no right to touch her. Tap or an assaulting grab, it doesn't matter. He invaded her personal space and that is something they are trained to not do. Ever. He clearly broke such a rule on his own accord.

This statement proves twice over of your ignorance on this subject. Tapping someone's shoulder is perfectly within the realms of "Police Training" especially in this case. The mere idea that you equate tapping someones shoulder to an assaulting action or even an inappropriate touch display your lack of knowledge. I would love to hear exactly what you think you know in regards to "Police Training".

And how doesn't she know if she was sitting in the library? The point isn't "if" or "maybe" he did. I'm not even focusing on just her situation. His actions hold true to a particular type of "Blue Behaviour" all across the country. It's evident to me that the general consensus of the Police in large urban areas is "Guilty Until Proven innocent....especially minorities."

You have completely discredited yourself and arguing any kind of intelligence with you on this has just proven to be a complete waste of time.

It's no misconception. It's no over reaction. It's a sad truth. To 'slap' her for being annoyed with something she knows to be a problem is going a bit far.


The "slap" is to snap her out of her sheltered existence and show her that despite what MTV and all the reality shows say, the police officers are not all out to "get you".

It all comes down to this, in her situation.

The cop invaded her space. He was wrong, and could've approached her differently.

So him saying, "*Ahem* miss? How old are you?" Is MASSIVLEY DIFFERENT than a "light tap on the shoulder"?

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