Another Fatal Shooting in a movie theater

[SuperSanchez]

Guns are part of the world. If we didn't have guns we'd use knives, spears and axes.

Drugs are a bit different as many are just plants used in different ways. Guns we make ourselves.

That's the point I'm making, I mean that even if people destroy all the guns in the world people will still know how to make them if they want to.

 

[Mysteryman]

Guns are part of the world. If we didn't have guns we'd use knives, spears and axes.

Drugs are a bit different as many are just plants used in different ways. Guns we make ourselves.

Exactly.
You said it better than I could.

 

[warhorse78]

I'm probably weird and look at things from a more philosophical standpoint, but I don't even understand why guns still need to exist in the first place. Why even have them at all? Screw gun control, just destroy all of them. Outlaw them. Make them forbidden, forever. From anyone. Cops included.

Yeah, it's impossible. But the simpleton part of my brain says, "If you get rid of all guns in the world, nobody can get shot, and nobody can shoot anybody." So there you have it.

Yeah, it's impossible, because someone like me, who has access to a full operating machine shop, and a local Home Depot, can easily make my own guns and ammo, regardless if the law wants me to or not. Law wants me to drive no faster than 55 on the highway, but guess what, I don't care, and will go 80!

 

[KevanG]

The designs for guns are all over the world so even if you destroyed all the guns and whatnot you'd miss some the designs or people would write down what they knew. It's not the guns that are the problem, it's the personal responsibility that goes with them.

 

[warhorse78]

Even if we did that,
And I am not against gun control, we could never get rid of everything that can be used to hurt someone.
If they didn't have access to guns, they would knives explosives, whatever they could get their hands on .

Thanks to the Hunger Games, there has been an increase in membership at the local arching facility that I go to. And it's extremely easy to make a bow and arrow. Heck, a well placed punch or kick can hurt of kill someone. It's just part of life, where there are individuals out there that can't seem to exist within a society, and act out on it. Why people think punishing the citizens who are not doing anything wrong is the answer, I have no idea.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

There are over 300 million guns in circulation in the US and many Americans consider gun ownership a sacred right.

No way a gun ban is going to be effective or even plausible. The black market and anti-government activity would explode.

 

[Sawyer]

Yeah, let's not get too tangled up in Rocketman's bizarre little fairy tale, when there's a real, and potentially attainable, goal in play of NOT GIVING THESE F***ING THINGS AWAY LIKE HALLOWEEN CANDY!!!

 

[Rocketman]

Okay, but how many people can make guns? And how many people who can make guns will make guns? And how many teenagers can make guns or have access to homemade guns on the street? It's one thing to be able to make guns on your own; it's another thing for people to have access to homemade guns. I'm not saying it wouldn't still be an issue, but let's be honest, guns would be a hell of a less of a problem in that fictional world. (And yes, I'm aware it's never happening, ever.)

As far as explosives, they're obviously illegal now anyway. And again, access to that material and the knowledge to create it is a whole other ballgame.

As far as knives, any mo****f****r comes at anybody in a movie theater with a knife, that guy is obviously going down. He'll hurt somebody, yes, but not 10.

 

[KevanG]

Yeah, let's not get too tangled up in Rocketman's bizarre little fairy tale, when there's a real, and potentially attainable, goal in play of NOT GIVING THESE F***ING THINGS AWAY LIKE HALLOWEEN CANDY!!!

But it's in the constitution to shoot ****.

 

[Rocketman]

Yeah, let's not get too tangled up in Rocketman's bizarre little fairy tale, when there's a real, and potentially attainable, goal in play of NOT GIVING THESE F***ING THINGS AWAY LIKE HALLOWEEN CANDY!!!

Going after me again.

I specifically said the scenario was impossible. I'm aware that it's impossible.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Every time one of these shootings happen I am going to make it "political" so the first person who says that I shouldn't because "it's too soon," can go take a long walk off of a short pier.

We need real gun control in this country and we need to stop romanticizing these ****ing murder weapons. They aren't great, they are awful and are only used to kill, they serve no other function.

Nothing is going to ever happen after these shootings because Americans love guns more that people. We are all ****ed.

Get ready to have to walk through metal detectors before you see your movie.

 

[DeadPresident]

So while everyone blames gun availability, is the issue of why so many people have violent tendencies in the US just a bothersome inconvenience?

Or are most Hype members deterministic pillocks that think human behaviour is some kind of unexplainable voodoo?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

You talk about that right now to try and avoid the gun issue but I ****ing won't.

 

[Kane52630]

So...are we calling this domestic terrorism?

 

[Hurm...]

But it's in the constitution to shoot ****.

The Second Amendment: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Who knew so many gunowners were part of "a well regulated militia."

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

So...are we calling this domestic terrorism?

No because the guy was white.

 

[DeadPresident]

You talk about that right now to try and avoid the gun issue but I ****ing won't.

Nope, I agree with you 100%, guns are an issue, but there are others.

I'm asking why every other variable in the scenario gets erased except gun control. There are other countries with access to weapons that don't have the proportionate number of gun deaths. Why not?

 

[Sawyer]

You talk about that right now to try and avoid the gun issue but I ****ing won't.

Exactly. This happens everytime some a**hole with a gun causes havoc. We, appropriately, point the finger at the lack of any real gun control and someone pops up pointing the finger elsewhere.

Is mental health care a problem in this country? Yeah, sure. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN GUN CONTROL ISN'T SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED, SO STOP TRYING TO DEFLECT EVERYTIME WE BRING IT UP!!!!

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Nope, I agree with you 100%, guns are an issue, but there are others.

I'm asking why every other variable in the scenario gets erased except gun control.

Fair enough, I do think that it is the main issue though. I'm upset right now just like I am after all of these shootings. Didn't that guy just kill those marines a couple of days ago?

 

[Mysteryman]

Not sure .
It is troubling tha the police found a suspicious pacakage in what they believe to be the suspects vehicle.
We shall have to see how it unfolds .

 

[KevanG]

Because people are idiots. If we can try and control the supply then maybe people can try and think about other things than shooting first.

 

[DeadPresident]

Fair enough. I'm upset right now just like I am after all of these shooting. Didn't that guy just kill those marines a couple of days ago?

And that's an understandable reaction, things like this should upset us.

My very first post was about how guns contribute to the problem. Until people think of this as a convergence of a number of things, nobody will understand it let alone solve it.

And sadly, either due to ignorance or sheer inability to understand it most people will only ever think a single thing is to blame for events like this.

 

[DeadPresident]

Because people are idiots. If we can try and control the supply then maybe people can try and think about other things than shooting first.

You really think somebody in that frame of mind, that has reached the point of thinking taking a human life is acceptable, is going to reconsider violence because their weapon of choice isn't available?

Is a starving person going to reconsider eating because he can't find a fork?

 

[Hurm...]

Nope, I agree with you 100%, guns are an issue, but there are others.

I'm asking why every other variable in the scenario gets erased except gun control. There are other countries with access to weapons that don't have the proportionate number of gun deaths. Why not?

There are definitely other variables, bud, I see your point. It is certainly a far more complex issue that stems from America's, often violent, historical background. However, RIGHT NOW, there needs to be prompt solutions to far more complex problems regarding violence in America. And that begins with gun control.

Otherwise, if we continue to wait to fully understand the psychology of this country, people will just continue to be mowed down.

 

[KevanG]

You really think somebody in that frame of mind, that has reached the point of thinking taking a human life is acceptable, is going to reconsider violence because their weapon of choice isn't available?

Is a starving person going to reconsider eating because he can't find a fork?

I think if there's less means available to them then they may consider other options which may lead to finding an alternate way besides violence.