Another Hellraiser...without Doug Bradley????

[TheDreamMaster]

Replacing Freddy was a bitter pill worth swallowing because it meant a big budget remake...replacing Pinhead for a direct to video sequel that is doomed to be a rushed, barely cared about sequel that isn't worth watching is hardly the same situation.

Oh, and the new Freddy was a highly respected actor...this new Pinhead...um...who is he again?

This.

Freddy got replaced because it was a remake, and giving someone a chance to give a new take. This is a sequel (direct to dvd at that) without the actor that made the series. Jason can be replaced. Michael MYers can be replaced (as long as he isn't 6 foot tall and maskless for half the film), Freddy was only for the remake, but unless Clive Barker gets his remake going, to which I thought Doug Bradley would be Pinhead in as well, Pinhead should not be replaced. Besides, Hellraiser should have gone to a more capable studio a long time ago anyway.

 

[<(o_o)>]

This.

Freddy got replaced because it was a remake, and giving someone a chance to give a new take. This is a sequel (direct to dvd at that) without the actor that made the series. Jason can be replaced. Michael MYers can be replaced (as long as he isn't 6 foot tall and maskless for half the film), Freddy was only for the remake, but unless Clive Barker gets his remake going, to which I thought Doug Bradley would be Pinhead in as well, Pinhead should not be replaced. Besides, Hellraiser should have gone to a more capable studio a long time ago anyway.

I will miss Doug Bradley as Pinhead also but like Robert Englund he isn't a spring chicken anymore & wearing the make-up takes its toll on the actor. I don't know why Doug Bradley didn't return for the 9th movie but he was a good sport for playing the character 4 more times over the last decade even though he was under paid & misused.

 

[LOBO3315a]

If you read any of the Hellraiser comics that came out years ago(a lot of them are pretty good and you can get them in tpb form)it's more about the human characters and their descent into hell. It would get boring if all the movies focused primarily on Pinhead and the other Cenobites just killing people.

I do agree that this new DTV version looks stupid.

Well to some people it might get boring. However, I can understand the descent into hell appeal. It just sounded like the last 2 movies didn't have anything to do with them, till the ending.

I know I prefer to see lots of Pinhead pulling chains with hooks on the end of them, and making the meat puppets dance!

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Well to some people it might get boring. However, I can understand the descent into hell appeal. It just sounded like the last 2 movies didn't have anything to do with them, till the ending.

I know I prefer to see lots of Pinhead pulling chains with hooks on the end of them, and making the meat puppets dance!

You do have a point there. Doug Bradley was almost a cameo in Hellworld, and then it wasn't technically in continuity with the series, even with the series jumbled continuity anyway. The only real Cenobites showed up at the end, and even then it was a poor excuse for them. That movie could have existed without being a Hellraiser movie and maybe actually worked. Deader I don't even remember the whole thing, but I remember it having nothing to do with the series until Pinhead showed up to

Spoiler

prove that the cult could die.

I didn't mind Inferno or Hellseeker, i thought the idea of Pinhead torturing people within their own personal hell was a decent idea, kind of in a Silent Hill way (as in James being there to be punished in 2.)

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Tbh, I think they should have whent ahead and remade Hellraiser, and the fact that Barker was going to do it had me REALLY excited. Still, I hope this one is good.

 

[Heretic]

My assumption was that, in a remake, Pinhead would be more like in the Hellbound Heart story...so it would be cast completely different from the original film. If you are keeping with the original films view of Pinhead, then you can't replace Doug...he's iconic.

 

[dark_b]

Weinsteins Aiming for PG-13 ‘Hellraiser’ Remake for Teens?
http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/10/18...stiansen-directing-with-amber-heard-starring/




this is not even sad anymore. when you are desperate its funny. its so sad that its funny.

 

[bullets]

They can call it Heckraiser , lol. Seriously screw these idiots

 

[Octoberist]

I might be overdoing by saying this is why Hollywood has failed again and again, where it feels like a parody.

Actually, I'm gonna say it: This PG-13 Heckraiser will probably make me appreciate the remakes of Halloween, Friday the 13th, and Nightmare even more. At least they stuck to their guns and still stayed Rated R.

 

[KenK]

Oh, this is some ol' bullsh**!!! I mean really? REALLY?!? You cannot make Hellraiser PG-13.

 

[Nightmare]

Wow, sounds horrible.

 

[Warhammer]

HAHAHA, "Heckraiser"

 

[S.A.A.D.]

A PG-13 remake of Hellraiser? Hollywood has gone too far this time for me. I rather see a remake by Platinum Dunes,why make it PG-13? Today's youth are bullcrap horror fans,alot of them,and they are indifferent to old school horror movies like Hellraiser. They rather watch crappy PG-13 horror movies that make a decent profit at the box office and which received tons of crappy reviews,they suck so much at picking out horror movies that are worth seeing,yeah sure sometimes people want to watch crappy but entertaining movies, but today's teens do that too often.

 

[Rac]

I'm not surprised Inside and Martyrs directors backed out. No way in hell those guys would have made a PG-13 Hellraiser.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Weinsteins Aiming for PG-13 &#8216;Hellraiser&#8217; Remake for Teens?
http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/10/18...stiansen-directing-with-amber-heard-starring/




this is not even sad anymore. when you are desperate its funny. its so sad that its funny.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[GhostPoet]

He looks like a cranky old man that had his first attempt at acupuncture by an amateur.

 

[Figs]

The fact that it's PG-13 means it won't be all that accurate to the novella. To be honest it doesn't bother me since the original is one of my favorites and was in fact very close to the book.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It's going to bother me only because it's going to suck. I'm not against remakes if they are good but the PG13 rating already handycaps the film and it would have probably sucked anyway, with an R Rating.

Basically I just don't think that they have the right mindset to make a good HellRaiser movie. There is nothing PG13 about an S&M demon who likes to rip people to peices.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Weinsteins Aiming for PG-13 ‘Hellraiser’ Remake for Teens?
http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/10/18...stiansen-directing-with-amber-heard-starring/




this is not even sad anymore. when you are desperate its funny. its so sad that its funny.

Well this is ten times worse than just recasting Doug Bradley for a crappy DTV sequel. LEt Barker do his vision, not this crap.

 

[Figs]

It's going to bother me only because it's going to suck. I'm not against remakes if they are good but the PG13 rating already handycaps the film and it would have probably sucked anyway, with an R Rated.

Basically I just don't think that they have the right mindset to make a good HellRaiser movie. There is nothing PG13 about an S&M demon who likes to rip people to peices.

I agree. I forgot to mention earlier that when I said it doesn't bother me it's because I have the original and never truly cared for a remake. I didn't mean that I will still see it if it's PG-13. My mistake.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I agree. I forgot to mention earlier that when I said it doesn't bother me it's because I have the original and never truly cared for a remake. I didn't mean that I will still see it if it's PG-13. My mistake.

I understood what you were saying. I never cared for a remake either but if they had brought a good director on board, kept it R Rated and had a good cast I would give it a go. They aren't doing that though.

Thats my biggest problem with remakes. They get terrible directors working from an awful script and they hire mediocre actors to fill in the roles. I just hate that the movies are awful. I wasn't against the Nightmare remake but I hated it after seeing it for tons of reasons that I'm not going to get into right now. If you are going to do a remake, do it right. Get good people together and allow them to make it their own equally good thing.

The Thing remake was good because it had a good script, a decent director, good actors and it was it's own film. It was simular to the original but only a little. It had it's on story and tone. The same can be said the the excellent remake of The Fly and the 1978 Body Snatchers remake. Good Horror remakes are possible but Hollywood keeps mucking them up by not getting really creative people to work on them.

 

[KenK]

Thats my biggest problem with remakes. They get terrible directors

They willfully hire directors they think or bad?

working from an awful script

What's the criteria for the scripts being awful?

and they hire mediocre actors to fill in the roles.

By what standards? I look at the originals for a lot of horror flicks that have gotten remakes, and there were no Oscar winners to be found.

I just hate that the movies are awful. I wasn't against the Nightmare remake but I hated it after seeing it for tons of reasons that I'm not going to get into right now. If you are going to do a remake, do it right.

And you believe your definition of doing it right will be unanimously accepted?

Good Horror remakes are possible but Hollywood keeps mucking them up by not getting really creative people to work on them.

Now you're just being delightfully vague.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^Who are you? Have I ever interacted with you before? If so, when?

I have half the mind to tell you to f**k off, stranger but I'm not going to because that would just be too crude for my taste. And this is just a covo about films.

You disagree with me and think that every remake has been awesome...duly noted.

 

[KenK]

You disagree with me and think that every remake has been awesome...duly noted.

Continue making generalizations. I'm gonna go get a drink.

 

[xwolverine2]

LOL fail!......