Another Marvel book has bit the dust!

[Orko Is King]

It wasn't as good as the Thing, but it was still very enjoyable. I'm sad to see it go.

 

[Artistsean]

It is sad when a book gets cancelled. Years from now I'll look back, maybe after seeing a picture from it, and think "Oh yeah, I remember that book."
I didn't get it, at least the last several issues because the art inside wasn't that great and sometimes sort of bad.
The covers were good though.

 

[Elijya]

that'd be thanks to my awesome buddy Phil Hester

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I figured this would happen pretty soon. MTU has been selling pretty low for a while, as far as I recall, and lately the quality has dropped, to boot. It's sad because for all we know Kirkman might've had ten arcs of pure genius ready to go after the current one. But, on the other hand, if his next few arcs were going to be as bland as the current one has been, I'm kind of glad they're just putting the book out of its misery.

 

[hippie_hunter]

It sucks this book got cancelled but really, its a miracle Marvel gave it this much of a chance. Its not any different than Manhunter being cancelled at DC.

But DC at least took Manhunter off the cancellation list and gave it a "wait and see" status by giving it an extra 5 issues.

DC is also giving Aquaman and Firestorm chances.

They canceled Gotham Central because Rucka no longer wanted to continue with the book and it was his, Brubaker's and Lark's "baby.

They canceled Breach, Blood of the Demon, and Doom Patrol because they sucked.

Batgirl got canceled because wanted to go in a new controversal direction with her.

Superman got canceled and was simply replaced the retitling of Adventures of Superman back to Superman.

Wonder Woman, the Flash, JLA, and JSA are getting relaunched.

I think that Marvel is a bit harsher with their cancelations than DC is.

 

[The Leaguer]

No big loss. The book was bad.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

But DC at least took Manhunter off the cancellation list and gave it a "wait and see" status by giving it an extra 5 issues.

And Marvel's never, ever done anything like that, of course. I mean, clearly there's nothing like a book about Spider-Man's daughter in a possible future that's been saved from cancelation about 3 or 4 times already. Marvel would never do that 'cause they's the devil.

DC is also giving Aquaman and Firestorm chances.

Aquaman and Firestorm are both selling in the top 100, last I checked, which is markedly better than MTU.

They canceled Gotham Central because Rucka no longer wanted to continue with the book and it was his, Brubaker's and Lark's "baby.

And Marvel's put books like Ultimates and Young Avengers on hiatus because they were their respective creators' babies.

They canceled Breach, Blood of the Demon, and Doom Patrol because they sucked.

Whether they suck or not is purely opinion. The fact is that all of them were selling dismally, which is just cause for either company to cancel titles, I'd say.

Batgirl got canceled because wanted to go in a new controversal direction with her.

So? Marvel's canceled books for the same reason. There was the matter of a little title called Avengers, which was then revamped and turned into New Avengers, for one.

Superman got canceled and was simply replaced the retitling of Adventures of Superman back to Superman.

Peter Parker: Spider-Man got canceled to be replaced with a new Spider-Man title under the Marvel Knights banner.

Wonder Woman, the Flash, JLA, and JSA are getting relaunched.

Yes, to very little complaining, even though I recall quite a lot of *****ing when Marvel canceled titles to relaunch them. They do it more than DC, granted, but both companies clearly still do it.

I think that Marvel is a bit harsher with their cancelations than DC is.

I'd look at the facts and think again if I were you. Both companies do the same things. I don't like a lot of Marvel's choices either, but it doesn't really make sense to paint them out as soulless bastards when they're just employing the same business practices as DC.

 

[The Leaguer]

You Marvel zombie.

 

[hippie_hunter]

And Marvel's never, ever done anything like that, of course. I mean, clearly there's nothing like a book about Spider-Man's daughter in a possible future that's been saved from cancelation about 3 or 4 times already. Marvel would never do that 'cause they's the devil.

I was honestly surprised that Spider-Girl ended up like that.

Aquaman and Firestorm are both selling in the top 100, last I checked, which is markedly better than MTU.

Marvel Team-Up is doing that bad

And Marvel's put books like Ultimates and Young Avengers on hiatus because they were their respective creators' babies.

Well, Ultimates is going to Loeb now, with a new volume.

Whether they suck or not is purely opinion. The fact is that all of them were selling dismally, which is just cause for either company to cancel titles, I'd say.

The reason why they didn't sell was because they sucked

So? Marvel's canceled books for the same reason. There was the matter of a little title called Avengers, which was then revamped and turned into New Avengers, for one.

True, I was just trying to point out that Wonder Woman and the Flash really didn't get "canceled"

Peter Parker: Spider-Man got canceled to be replaced with a new Spider-Man title under the Marvel Knights banner.

Except Peter Parker: Spider-Man got canceled and completely replaced. Adventures of Superman returned to being it's original title: Superman. Superman vol. 2 was canceled as a result.

Yes, to very little complaining, even though I recall quite a lot of *****ing when Marvel canceled titles to relaunch them. They do it more than DC, granted, but both companies clearly still do it.

I'd look at the facts and think again if I were you. Both companies do the same things. I don't like a lot of Marvel's choices either, but it doesn't really make sense to paint them out as soulless bastards when they're just employing the same business practices as DC.

I know DC does it quite a lot too, I'm just saying that Marvel is worse at it. The Thing being the best example

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, Ultimates is going to Loeb now, with a new volume.

With Millar's blessing, as far as I know.

The reason why they didn't sell was because they sucked

zomg ya rly just like teh thing and all the other lam0r crap from marvel that sux lol!!!!11

Except Peter Parker: Spider-Man got canceled and completely replaced. Adventures of Superman returned to being it's original title: Superman. Superman vol. 2 was canceled as a result.

The principle is the same--one title featuring a major hero is canceled to make room for a different title featuring the same major hero. If it makes you feel any better, the original X-Men comic was renamed Uncanny X-Men in the '70s, and several Marvel titles have reverted to their original numbering.

I know DC does it quite a lot too, I'm just saying that Marvel is worse at it. The Thing being the best example

Like I pointed out before, The Thing's simply not selling well, quality notwithstanding. I loved the comic, but Marvel and DC are both ultimately beholden to the numbers, and the numbers on Thing said "cancel."

 

[UK_Stu]

For me its a cost thing. I can only afford so many titles per month. I don't stick rigidly to the same titles, but if I went out and bought all the titles I heard were good, it would mean dropping other titles in their place. I'm forced a lot of the time to wait for titles I've heard good things about to become TPBs, but of course this doesn't help the monthly sales of the title.

Advertising would make me more aware certain titles existed, but wouldn't really influence my decision to buy because of the limitations outlined above.

I would imagine its the same for a number of people.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Dan Slott and The Thing ROCKED!!!

I wish they would just keep the creative team and change the title to Marvel-Two-In-One

God, I'd sign a petition if it did any good.

 

[UK_Stu]

This is my point though, the only way to stop a title getting cancelled is to buy it. I'm pretty sure even Marvel know when they 've got a good creative team - I'm sure they love Slott, but the bottom line is - it isn't viable to continue a title if it isn't selling.

So for all the preaching its benefits and greatness, and the "I'd sign a petition" garbage, the only way to keep these titles going is putting your money where your mouth is.

 

[Varient]

And evil Iron Man(iac) was no less evil for me than the current regular Civil War a-hole Iron Man is.

lol
I hope they come up against each other,..... soon.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

This MTU was th' most CREATIVE version of it...EVER. Instead of random team-ups heroes were thrown together via situations, an' then carried over to OTHER team-ups down th' road. I dunno how people can think it's bland. Maybe they're just strung up on stupid events that unless a book has one it's crap. I liked it, I thought it was great. Sure, art suffered here an' there, but such is life.

THIS was how MTU SHOULDA been done. But I also agree with someone who said Marvel's gotta keep characters in their own books fer once to keep it relevant. Too many MTUs to justify a title deidcated to them.

 

[Darthphere]

And Marvel's never, ever done anything like that, of course. I mean, clearly there's nothing like a book about Spider-Man's daughter in a possible future that's been saved from cancelation about 3 or 4 times already. Marvel would never do that 'cause they's the devil.

Aquaman and Firestorm are both selling in the top 100, last I checked, which is markedly better than MTU.

And Marvel's put books like Ultimates and Young Avengers on hiatus because they were their respective creators' babies.

Whether they suck or not is purely opinion. The fact is that all of them were selling dismally, which is just cause for either company to cancel titles, I'd say.

So? Marvel's canceled books for the same reason. There was the matter of a little title called Avengers, which was then revamped and turned into New Avengers, for one.

Peter Parker: Spider-Man got canceled to be replaced with a new Spider-Man title under the Marvel Knights banner.

Yes, to very little complaining, even though I recall quite a lot of *****ing when Marvel canceled titles to relaunch them. They do it more than DC, granted, but both companies clearly still do it.

I'd look at the facts and think again if I were you. Both companies do the same things. I don't like a lot of Marvel's choices either, but it doesn't really make sense to paint them out as soulless bastards when they're just employing the same business practices as DC.

Im giving you a standing ovation.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Dude, put yer pants back on!

 

[Darthphere]

Dude, put yer pants back on!

NO!

 

[supermarvelman]

Man this sucks Marvel Team-Up was awesome, cancel Black Panther or something, this really sucks.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

lol. ANY black panther fans out there?












*tumbleweed rolls by*













guess not

 

[Dread]

By your assesment Howling Commandos shouldve sold through the roof because that got its fair share of advertising.

Part of me is still a little bitter that out of all the new or low selling titles for Marvel to decide to market EFFECTIVELY for once, they chose such a low quality work. And left SHE-HULK, THING, MTU, and others basically to fend for themselves.

This MTU was th' most CREATIVE version of it...EVER. Instead of random team-ups heroes were thrown together via situations, an' then carried over to OTHER team-ups down th' road. I dunno how people can think it's bland. Maybe they're just strung up on stupid events that unless a book has one it's crap. I liked it, I thought it was great. Sure, art suffered here an' there, but such is life.

THIS was how MTU SHOULDA been done. But I also agree with someone who said Marvel's gotta keep characters in their own books fer once to keep it relevant. Too many MTUs to justify a title deidcated to them.

I agree on all points. Kirkman's MTU was the best version of the book yet, which'd seen its original run and a 90's relaunch as "Spider-Man Team Up" during the Rielly days. I also agree that had this book given more MU relevence, that it may have sold better.

Still, with 25 issues, its hard to say that Marvel didn't give it an "old college try". Just one day I would like Marvel to realize that its not worth publishing books if they aren't willing to spend something to promote said new books or mini's that drop into the abyss. Books can still fail, but leaving them to sink or swim on their own doesn't make a lot of marketting sense.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

I don't blame Marvel totally fer MTU. I blame readers. I blame readers who only buy Spider-Man or X-Men or some of the big names and pass by the smaller books. And ironically, some of these guys read the independents so it's like well, hello! These books are like the independents of Marvel!

 

[Darthphere]

I don't blame Marvel totally fer MTU. I blame readers. I blame readers who only buy Spider-Man or X-Men or some of the big names and pass by the smaller books. And ironically, some of these guys read the independents so it's like well, hello! These books are like the independents of Marvel!

Really, its a bit of everything. I dont think readers should be forced to buy low selling books if it doesnt interest them. Honestly, a common reader see two books side by side. New Avengers with Cap, iron Man, Wolverin and Spider-Man and then She-Hulk with Howard the Duck, which are they going to pick up? Marvel really does need to step it up advertising wise and put the effort they put into Howling Commandos into some real quality books. And readers need to open their eyes and at least give some of these books a try.

 

[SpideyInATree]

This was a really fun book. It's sad that it will be cancelled, though they could AT LEAST give the book a better artist. For the love of God the current artwork is horrendous, don't let it die looking like crap.

Though the positive thing is that it opens a space up on my pull list, which...right now is a really good thing because I get way too many comics.

 

[yenaled]

This current arc hasn't been good dispite the fact I enjoyed the freedom ring/spider-man crossover.

But this has been coming for ages. I'm sad because I'm down to so little Marvel on-goings. I really did enjoy MTU.