Anyone else sick of Jim Carrey's Riddler being called a joker ripoff?

[I Am The Knight]

However, Carrey was not a goofball all the time. When he wanted to be chilling he was.

- "Riddle me this, riddle me that....who's afraid of the big, bad bad?" And the whole following scene where he taunts Batman from his throne. He comes off as a proper, insane supervillain.

- "Questions, Mr Wayne? Questions? Why hasn't anybody....put you in your place?"

Agreed. I enjoy that scene very much. I find it hysterical and sinister, at the same time.

 

[Comics N' Toons]

i enjoyed both JC and TLJ potrayals & thought they fit the movie well...

i think TLJ would have been exceptionAL in a burton universe, but JC would have needed to tone it down...

besides SCHUMACHER's movies had considerably more one-liners than Burton's ever did! ! !

 

[The Batman]

Carrey's Riddler was the Riddler, no doubt.

But come on, Two-Face was a giggling buffoon. His introduction was pretty much the sole moment in the entire film where he really felt completely like Two-Face.

The comparisons to the Joker are valid; Jack's performance was the standard in "comic book villiany" - big, loud, and showy. TLJ took that page out of the playbook and ran with it. Problem is, "big, loud, and showy" is what the Joker is. It's not what Two-Face is.

Big, loud, and showy....congrats...you've described most of Batman's rogues gallery

what Two face does is no different from penguin coming in with a freaking mobile duck in BR, Freeze holding up a museum in B&R, etc. Batman's villains are insecure freaks who express themselves by doing big stage robberies and crimes. How this makes TLJ's Tf like the joker just because he happens to act like a stereotypical nutjob i dont understand. everytime people say this stuff,its a slap in the face to what jacks joker was, whitling him down to nothing more than laughing maniacally

 

[The Joker]

what Two face does is no different from penguin coming in with a freaking mobile duck in BR, Freeze holding up a museum in B&R, etc. Batman's villains are insecure freaks who express themselves by doing big stage robberies and crimes. How this makes TLJ's Tf like the joker just because he happens to act like a stereotypical nutjob i dont understand. everytime people say this stuff,its a slap in the face to what jacks joker was, whitling him down to nothing more than laughing maniacally

Two Face's mannerisms and behaviour in BF was so Joker like. He was spouting out loads of joking lines, he'd make goofy over the top faces, hopping and dancing around, totally hamming it up with Carey's Riddler, laughing 90% of the time.

Who in Batman's rogues gallery, besides the Joker, does this represent? Certainly not Two Face. And I wont even get started on the constant tossing of the coin until he got the side he wanted. Schumacher couldn't have got the Two Face character more wrong if he tried.

Penguin riding in a duck vehicle was an expression of his love/obsession with birds. Just like his hiding out in Arctic world with an army of penguins. All part of the bird theme. Freeze was holding up a mueseum to get diamonds as part of his plan to save his wife. But Mr Freeze was a bit of a goofball, too, with all the ice pun lines and lame jokes. "Hiiiiiiiii. Ooooooh I'm sorry about the door. Is the party over?". But still Schumacher got the Freeze character more right than Two Face. Even if Freeze did want to live on a dead frozen planet overrun with Ivy's plant monsters

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

this thread has made me laugh more than once!

 

[I Am The Knight]

this thread has made me laugh more than once!

So You've Been Jokerized!!

 

[The Guard]

Two-Face may have been a buffoon in BATMAN FOREVER, but it wasn't so much that he was trying to ape The Joker's portrayal. It was more along the lines that Akiva Goldsman thought Batman villains should be big, loud, colorful, and constantly making puns. Many of Two-Face's "joking" lines were puns about the number two in some fashion.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

So You've Been Jokerized!!

yes just like Lee Jones' Two Face!

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Two-Face may have been a buffoon in BATMAN FOREVER, but it wasn't so much that he was trying to ape The Joker's portrayal. It was more along the lines that Akiva Goldsman thought Batman villains should be big, loud, colorful, and constantly making puns. Many of Two-Face's "joking" lines were puns about the number two in some fashion.

well regardless Jones didnt truly portray that when playing the character. He took things a step too far as if Joel just said " Do what ya want, be loud laugh alot ya know act like a crazy batman villain".

 

[terminalpicture]

I'm just sick of Jim Carrey. Especially when he tries to do "serious acting." Ugh.