Iron Man Anyone one else getting a weird vibe about the tone of this movie?

[DieSmiling]

My confidence is high -- I think this will end up being the best received Marvel movie since Spider-Man 2.

Why?

A) Talented director, dedicated to the material

B) Great cast

C) Marvel is running this, not some boneheads from Fox

I think it will have it's humor, which is a given for a summer superhero movie, but I would think this will ultimately be the darkest and most serious Marvel movie we've seen yet.

 

[Carp Man]

The Fantastic Four movies sucked though because they couldn't balance it at all. They were stupid. And so was Ghost Rider.

I have learned to apprecate your biased comments.

 

[Carp Man]

My confidence is high -- I think this will end up being the best received Marvel movie since Spider-Man 2.

Why?

A) Talented director, dedicated to the material

B) Great cast

C) Marvel is running this, not some boneheads from Fox

Agree, especially with C. Fox nowhere in site, and Marvel is making it, and thank goodness Parimount is distributing it. One thing I have to give to Fox, they know how to market. If this film is marketd right, it could well be the suprise of 08, just like TF's was the suprise hit of 07. Will it make as much as TF's ? Doubt it, but it should be in the $ 300 to $ 400 WW range.

 

[Juice2020]

Good, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!

Gee did the director of Pirahna 2 have any good credentials before going on to direct Terminator 1&2, Aliens and $600+ Titanic, or how about little known cult directors that directed little seen films like Memento, Evil Dead or Frighteners.

I know lets get known Oscar winning directors to direct future Marvel films because that was the winning formula for Batman Forever and Batman and Robin

Like I said see ya and GTFO troll!


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Thanks for the kind words. Now I'm back for the long haul.

Those movies you mention in your argument, Memento, Evil Dead, and Frighteners are better movies than Elf. To compare those movies to Elf is a slap in the face to Nolan, Rami and whoever directed Frighteners.

I'm sorry, but Iron Man will be a forgotten movie like, I don't know like most of Marvel movies these days. Iron Man will have a nice resting spot to Elektra, Fanstatic Four 1992, Punisher, The Punisher 1989, Hulk, Captain American 1994, X-men 3, Ghost Rider and Nick Fury. Why stop there? Batman 3 & 4, Superman 2, 3 & 4, Superman Returns, Catwoman, Supergirl, Steel, Lady Death, Judge Dredd and I know theres one more...oh yeah and Spawn.

As you can see there is plenty of space in the graveyard for Iron Man.
But that won't kill him. They will resurrect him from the grave with a reboot (you can thank Batman for that). No matter how bad Iron Man could be, it will never be worst than Batman & Robin.


If I said something that hurt your feeling...I'm sorry. This is my opinion, not the Bible. I hope I'm wrong about everything I said.
I personally plan on seeing it the first day its out.

 

[Sugarculted]

No matter how bad Iron Man will be, it will never be worst than Batman & Robin.

It's a shame you can presume so much, when you've not even watched the entire film.

 

[Juice2020]

It's a shame you can presume so much, when you've not even watched the entire film.

My bad, I meant to say, "No matter how bad Iron could be it will never be as bad as Batman & Robin." - I'll edit the previous post.

I didn't mean to sound like I know for certain. B/c I don't know much of anything about the movie.

Most of my posts from now on out will be positive. I expressed all the things that concern me, I'm done.

Iron Man could be Marvel next best film since Spider-man 2.

 

[TheVileOne]

I have learned to apprecate your biased comments.

Yes because there's nothing biased about your comments. I'm still waiting to see Fantastic Four 2 make more money than Transformers.

 

[TheVileOne]

Heard the same things with FF. It's a conic book movie. I refuse to go thru this again, but Marvel comics are not dark and dreary. You want dark, see The Dark Night. Nothing could have been chessier then Transformers, but the public loved it. Light harted is not always bad. It has it's comic relief the sugary side if you will, then there's the other side. The combonation can work, if the humor is not overdone to distraction.

You seem to fail to realize that Fantastic Four movies did not do that well, and Batman Begins did a lot better than both movies and is going in with much more momentum for it's sequel. People didn't take FF seriously at all and they forgot about it the week after it came out. Fox screwed up big time with the tone of those movies.

 

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

My bad, I meant to say, "No matter how bad Iron could be it will never be as bad as Batman & Robin." - I'll edit the previous post.

I didn't mean to sound like I know for certain. B/c I don't know much of anything about the movie.

Most of my posts from now on out will be positive. I expressed all the things that concern me, I'm done.

Iron Man could be Marvel next best film since Spider-man 2.

Pipe down. Intentionally inviting aggrieved responses will not be tolerated.
If you have watched the movie, make a sound judgment. If you haven't, I suggest you wait until you make a verdict about it's quality. Making unfounded statements based on nothing other than personal prejudice is a trait of someone who is either immature to the factor ten, or is intentionally trolling the boards.

Please refrain from making unfounded statements in the future. Evidence and compelling arguments, please!

Thank you.

 

[The Major]

I don't really get that at all, though I can understand why some may fear it.

I noticed the humor, too. Most of the scenes with Stark in them have him making jokes. It'll be fine if its just sprinkled through it just not constantly there like FF was.

Tony Stark = wit and sarcasm. I think that's where most of the humor will come from. The humor will likely be dark and of course situational at times due to the nature of the character. But I just don't see it reaching the FF's satirical level.

I thought he as similar to Ultimate Iron Man.

It's as if every Marvel adaption must have some link to the Ultimate universe.

 

[The Major]

Well, I expect it'll be about the same in tone as a Tom Clancy movie, say Hunt for Red October or some such thing, and that movie had much more humour than Batman Begins. Yeah, that's about right for Iron Man, whichat it's heart should have a lot of techno-thriller/espionage type stuff going on. That's the world Tony Stark lives in, not the dark detective/Dashell Hamnett stuff that Batman is more about.

IM's world isn't as dark as Batman's but he's nowhere near as light hearted like Spider-man's films are.

 

[The Major]

For those complaining or worrying about RDJ/Stark having a bit too much wit and sarcasm in this movie, look at the dialog on the cover of 158 in the countdown cover thread. Stark was never a brooding Bruce Wayne type.

Tony Stark was a huge drunk for a while. It was one of the definitive storylines of the character.

Nowdays he's semi-depressed leading the Iniative after Civil War.

 

[The Major]

Heard the same things with FF.

Which was awful.

It's a conic book movie.

So? It doesn't mean it can't be quality entertainment.

I refuse to go thru this again, but Marvel comics are not dark and dreary.

Marvel's always been more realistic then DC. All the characters have huge flaws.

 

[The Major]

A) Talented director, dedicated to the material

B) Great cast

Agreed.

C) Marvel is running this, not some boneheads from Fox

Marvel isn't perfect. They're the ones who wanted Venom to be in Spiderman 3. Not sure why they couldn't wait for a sequel to do it.

 

[Sun_Down]

People have a right to be wary,so far Marvel has only taken the Spider-Man films seriously.All others have been decent,or dissapointments.

They took Spiderman seriously? Really? Then what corny-ass kiddie movies did I see?

 

[YJ1]

Then what corny-ass kiddie movies did I see?

Probably something with the words "Justice" and "League" in the title.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Here's hoping that Robert Downey Jr. can pull off a good balance of humor, action and drama. I mean could you see a guy like Tom Cruise (Who had been rumored to be in the running for Tony Stark 15 years ago when an Iron Man movie project was being bounced around.) doing such a delicate tight rope of a performance and make it credible? I'll reserve my judgment for when I see the movie in the theaters.

 

[thegameq]

I noticed the humor, too. Most of the scenes with Stark in them have him making jokes. It'll be fine if its just sprinkled through it just not constantly there like FF was.



I thought he as similar to Ultimate Iron Man.

It's as if every Marvel adaption must have some link to the Ultimate universe.

Oh, without a doubt. I think the reason is obvious though. If it's done in a similar manner as the animated films it won't bother me too much.

Unsurprisingly, a few people have mentioned Ghost Rider and FF. I think those are classic examples where the producers of those films had no intentions of being true to the characters because they were simply afraid of losing money.

FF=larger than life, Out of this adventures and the tendency to become very serious--or in other words, DOOM.

Ghost Rider......I think Sony wanted another Spider-man franchise and tried to make GR into just that. The prospect of making a scary demon rider, horror comicbook movie probably scared the hell out of them.

 

[KenK]

Here's hoping that Robert Downey Jr. can pull off a good balance of humor, action and drama. I mean could you see a guy like Tom Cruise (Who had been rumored to be in the running for Tony Stark 15 years ago when an Iron Man movie project was being bounced around.) doing such a delicate tight rope of a performance and make it credible? I'll reserve my judgment for when I see the movie in the theaters.

Cruise is too damn intense, especially when it's not necessary. He wouldn't have been able to pull off Stark's wit and smugness without coming off like a totally unlikable prick. Downey Jr. does it and it comes off rather charming, that works to his advantage. Not to say Cruise doesn't have a sense of humor, but after seeing the scene with Pepper catching Tony as Iron Man, can you honestly say that Cruise could have pulled that off any better?

 

[DoctorJones]

Here's hoping that Robert Downey Jr. can pull off a good balance of humor, action and drama. I mean could you see a guy like Tom Cruise (Who had been rumored to be in the running for Tony Stark 15 years ago when an Iron Man movie project was being bounced around.) doing such a delicate tight rope of a performance and make it credible? I'll reserve my judgment for when I see the movie in the theaters.

I agree. According to Favreau in Empire magazine too, Downey also lightened the tone of the movie with his performance. It was originally going to be much heavier. But heck, we're not in the alcoholism story yet, so smooth move.

 

[Sun_Down]

Probably something with the words "Justice" and "League" in the title.

Did you just insult Justice League the cartoon or the movie that won't be released for two years? Because if it's the former, I'll beat ya with a sock full o' pennies. If it's the latter, I would like to borrow your time machine.

 

[The Major]

Here's hoping that Robert Downey Jr. can pull off a good balance of humor, action and drama. I mean could you see a guy like Tom Cruise (Who had been rumored to be in the running for Tony Stark 15 years ago when an Iron Man movie project was being bounced around.) doing such a delicate tight rope of a performance and make it credible? I'll reserve my judgment for when I see the movie in the theaters.

Downey Jr. has always been my pick for Stark. I'm extatic that he signed on and am thrilled with the scenes in the previous with him in them.

If Downey ever leaves I hope they get Johnny Depp for Stark.

 

[The Major]

Cruise is too damn intense, especially when it's not necessary. He wouldn't have been able to pull off Stark's wit and smugness without coming off like a totally unlikable prick. Downey Jr. does it and it comes off rather charming, that works to his advantage. Not to say Cruise doesn't have a sense of humor, but after seeing the scene with Pepper catching Tony as Iron Man, can you honestly say that Cruise could have pulled that off any better?

Cruise could have been good in the role but I would notice it was Cruise in the role.

With Downey Jr. I can believe it's Stark I'm seeing not the actor playing it.

 

[The Major]

Oh, without a doubt. I think the reason is obvious though. If it's done in a similar manner as the animated films it won't bother me too much.

How the Spidey films worked it made sense for them to use a version similar to th Ultimate Spiderman origin. I'm glad Riami didn't go overboard with the Ultimate references after that. The first time I heard Spidey was using organic web-shooters I was disappointed but the film won me over with it anyway.

Unsurprisingly, a few people have mentioned Ghost Rider and FF. I think those are classic examples where the producers of those films had no intentions of being true to the characters because they were simply afraid of losing money.

I agree.

FF=larger than life, Out of this adventures and the tendency to become very serious--or in other words, DOOM.

Agreed.

Ghost Rider......I think Sony wanted another Spider-man franchise and tried to make GR into just that. The prospect of making a scary demon rider, horror comicbook movie probably scared the hell out of them.

That really sucks. GR works as a horror movie, IMO. I've seen half of the movie and I couldn't believe how bright the world was or how many bad jokes were in it. GR is a franchise that should be super serious not a comedy.

 

[LostSon88]

People have a right to be wary,so far Marvel has only taken the Spider-Man films seriously.All others have been decent,or dissapointments.

Um...how about X1 & X2?