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Anyone watch/play poker or any card games?

They should televise War. That'd be intense.
 
I love to play poker. I have a rather nice chip set. And me and several of the guys I work with all get together abut ever 3rd or 4th Monday night, every body puts in $10-$20 and we have a good time. I've won it three times and placed in the top three about 3 times as well. Loads of fun.
 
Morg said:
Pokerstars? meh, I prefer to do it with real people so I can see their faces

I suck at bluffing in real life. I also suck at hiding my excitement when I have a good hand. I much prefer playing online.
 
I'm not a very experienced player. In fact I've only been playing on and off over the last two or three months. So maybe you guys could clear up something?

It seems to me, from the games I've played online, and from the games I watch on tv with the professionals... the game has more to do with luck than what some people are willing to admit. One card can make all the difference. One card can turn a sure win into a loss.

So I watched a lot of poker online. And in some ways, the pros are worse than amatuars. I mean, they make these stupid bets and they let their pride get in the way. The pros do not like backing down - and that is very dangerous.
 
kainedamo said:
I'm not a very experienced player. In fact I've only been playing on and off over the last two or three months. So maybe you guys could clear up something?

It seems to me, from the games I've played online, and from the games I watch on tv with the professionals... the game has more to do with luck than what some people are willing to admit. One card can make all the difference. One card can turn a sure win into a loss.

So I watched a lot of poker online. And in some ways, the pros are worse than amatuars. I mean, they make these stupid bets and they let their pride get in the way. The pros do not like backing down - and that is very dangerous.

Ok, the "luck factor".

Yeah, a lot of poker is about luck and yes one card can make a difference. This is inherent to the game. However, poker players can turn the odds in their favour.

For example, raising before the flop can make some people fold poor hands and thus emilinating people catching lucky cards with weak hole cards. Furthermore, a good poker player will know when he's beat and will fold - even if they have a monster hand like three of a kind. (Example, I had pocket Queens today and folded on a flop that came K93 and it turned out to be the right decision.)

But if you're the short stack, then yes, luck is needed. However, any winner of a poker tournament that says luck plays NO part is a liar.

As for the proffesionals v amatuers, well, you gotta remember proffesionals play a certain way. They believe if they hold AK preflop and make a big raise, anyone holding crappy cards will immediately fold. A lot of new players are willing to gamble on the most awful hands.

Also, poker on TV is heavily edited. A lot of the plays you see on TV are the result of hours of play, hours of memorising how players played certain hands.

To be fair, it's hard once you're a pro. Everyone wants to bust you. Imagine if you were a famous poker player, everyone will want to be the one that knocked you out of a tournament. Thus, proffesionals often have trouble playing amatuers as a consequence of this.

Hope this semi-long post answerd your questions :)
 
Haha, I don't have an all in hand. I don't believe in any of that kinda stuff. 77 seems to be a really bad hand for me to move all in on though from experience :(
 
Jamie Gold said:
Ok, the "luck factor".

Yeah, a lot of poker is about luck and yes one card can make a difference. This is inherent to the game. However, poker players can turn the odds in their favour.

For example, raising before the flop can make some people fold poor hands and thus emilinating people catching lucky cards with weak hole cards. Furthermore, a good poker player will know when he's beat and will fold - even if they have a monster hand like three of a kind. (Example, I had pocket Queens today and folded on a flop that came K93 and it turned out to be the right decision.)

But if you're the short stack, then yes, luck is needed. However, any winner of a poker tournament that says luck plays NO part is a liar.

As for the proffesionals v amatuers, well, you gotta remember proffesionals play a certain way. They believe if they hold AK preflop and make a big raise, anyone holding crappy cards will immediately fold. A lot of new players are willing to gamble on the most awful hands.

Also, poker on TV is heavily edited. A lot of the plays you see on TV are the result of hours of play, hours of memorising how players played certain hands.

To be fair, it's hard once you're a pro. Everyone wants to bust you. Imagine if you were a famous poker player, everyone will want to be the one that knocked you out of a tournament. Thus, proffesionals often have trouble playing amatuers as a consequence of this.

Hope this semi-long post answerd your questions :)


Thanks for answering my questions, what you say makes alot of sense.

And I agree with you about amataurs. Even I, an unexperienced player, know that you need to have a strategy. But alot of guys online, you are absolutely right about this, they just keep betting and betting. There seems to be always one guy that raises every single hand. In a way its good, because you can say to yourself "this guy raises every hand, so therefore his hand probably sucks!". What you say about the pros learning each other through hours of play makes sense.

I don't think poker is a game for me though. It can be easy money, but I don't want to get into it.
 
Ive seen card game websites on the computer,that say its free to join and play.Is this true?
 
I've played card games my whole life. I learned Texas hold'em, draw, and stud all from my grandmother about 15 years ago and have been playing ever since. While I used to play online, I definately prefer live games and have a few around town that I go to.

About 2 years ago I went semi-pro for a year where I had a fulltime job, but also played about 30 hours a week in the casino as a second job. It was definately fun, but was also pretty tough. There aren't many jobs in the world where you can work for 8 hours and actually lose money.

I actually just got back from Vegas a couple of weeks ago, and while I was there was REALLY tempted to stay a while and turn pro. A professional at Ceasars that I had played with a few times that week offered to stake 50% of my buy-in to the Doyle Brunson Tourney at the Bellagio. I was really close to accepting, but then I realized that it's a $15,000 tournament and I would still have to put up $7,500...which I don't have. Oh well, I probably would have been creamed anyway.
 
I'm a very aggressive Texas Hold 'Em player. And it's never lost me money. :up: But I don't play that much anyway.
 
It's been a couple of years since I played cards, and I haven't played poker since high school. (:wow: I just admitted that I've been out of high school for more than a couple of years)

My game of choice is usually Cribbage, but I also play Rummy and Rummoli as well as all the standard "children's" games (Go Fish, Concentration, etc.)
 
If I do decide to play for real money (Texas Hold 'Em online), do you guys have any tips?

I've read up about playing tight-aggressive. Playing only a few hands, and when you do play a hand, you keep raising, freaks out the other players.

And I was thinking, I'd put aside about 200 quid for playing. If ever I lost all of it, then I stop playing forever.
 
ScottyBBadd said:
Not a good all in hand.
Not necessarily. My husband's "winningest" hand is 2/6. I don't know how many times he's won with that, it's kind of strange. When the rest of the table (of people we play with) usually automatically folds these low, spaced-out cards and only play higher cards, he may wait for the flop to see if it's worth his money. Having pockets Aces or trip 5's and losing to a Full House or Straight can really piss a guy off:hyper:

Granted, you can't make a Straight from Jack/4, but you're still open for a Flushy or more when others like to play two high pair or trips. Heh, having a straight and losing to a Flush sucks. So does losing on the river! Losing to four of a kind sucks, cuz you're looking at the guy like, "Nah. He doesn't have it. What are chances?.......DAMMIT!!"

I don't play much, I don't like to concentrate for five hours straight on just poker. Games where you can buy out when you're tired are nice. Just don't play for fifteen minutes, double up and bail:cmad:
 
i LOVE texas holdem!!!!!!! playing with chips though, never real money. but get a nice size group and just food and drinks and just good old fun!!
 
Lurk said:
Not necessarily. My husband's "winningest" hand is 2/6. I don't know how many times he's won with that, it's kind of strange. When the rest of the table (of people we play with) usually automatically folds these low, spaced-out cards and only play higher cards, he may wait for the flop to see if it's worth his money. Having pockets Aces or trip 5's and losing to a Full House or Straight can really piss a guy off:hyper:

Granted, you can't make a Straight from Jack/4, but you're still open for a Flushy or more when others like to play two high pair or trips. Heh, having a straight and losing to a Flush sucks. So does losing on the river! Losing to four of a kind sucks, cuz you're looking at the guy like, "Nah. He doesn't have it. What are chances?.......DAMMIT!!"

I don't play much, I don't like to concentrate for five hours straight on just poker. Games where you can buy out when you're tired are nice. Just don't play for fifteen minutes, double up and bail:cmad:
It's still not a good hand, but you are very correct that it can win you a lot of money. In fact IMO the worst starting hands win you the biggest pots (although they also lose you a lot of money). Like you said, your J/4 off doesn't have a straight draw, but if suited has a flush draw. The only problem with that is that when you're suited, you have an 85% chance to NOT hit your flush, but like you said, if you do, you can not only make some good money, but you can also get under the other player's skin which can be just as advantagous.
 
kainedamo said:
If I do decide to play for real money (Texas Hold 'Em online), do you guys have any tips?

I've read up about playing tight-aggressive. Playing only a few hands, and when you do play a hand, you keep raising, freaks out the other players.

And I was thinking, I'd put aside about 200 quid for playing. If ever I lost all of it, then I stop playing forever.
The best advice I can give you is to constantly keep adapting your strategy. I change my play considerably depending on what stakes, and who else is at the table.

Playing tight but aggressive can work, but if you are playing online at some of the lower limits, people are still going call and try and catch no matter what. This can be good for you though, since it could just potentially add more chips to your stack, but every once in a while, someone will suck out on you.

This can be a good strategy, but watch the table, people won't know it's your strategy (and therefore be scared of you when you play) if peole are constantly moving to and from the table (which happens a lot online). So, if yu are going to try it to your advantage, and bluff hoping they believe you have a good hand, then make sure you do it on someone who has been at the table long enough to know your style, and you think is smart enough to know how you play (you can't bluff an idiot who doesn't pay attention to your strategy).

Also, to help cement to people that you only play premium hands, every once in a while show them your premium hand to help them remember that is what you only play.

Other than that, the only thing I could advise to you is to know when you need to walk away. If you are pissed because someoen cracked your aces, and you think you might do somethgin a little stupid, just walk away form the computer. Go get somethign to drink or somethign and miss a hand or two to cool off. If after that you still aren't cooled off, and you still think you might do somethign you normally wouldn't do, then sign off. Don't eve play on tilt if you aren't sure your decisions would be the same as they normally would.

Oh yeah, and have fun. That should be the reason you're doing this. Have fun and hopefully make some money. You're not making enough to think of this as a job, so there is no need to treat it like a job and play when you don't want to.


Hope this helps a little bit, let me know if you have any other questions. I'm sure if I can't answer them, someone else on here will be able to. :yay:
 
Lurk said:
Not necessarily. My husband's "winningest" hand is 2/6. I don't know how many times he's won with that, it's kind of strange. When the rest of the table (of people we play with) usually automatically folds these low, spaced-out cards and only play higher cards, he may wait for the flop to see if it's worth his money. Having pockets Aces or trip 5's and losing to a Full House or Straight can really piss a guy off:hyper:

Granted, you can't make a Straight from Jack/4, but you're still open for a Flushy or more when others like to play two high pair or trips. Heh, having a straight and losing to a Flush sucks. So does losing on the river! Losing to four of a kind sucks, cuz you're looking at the guy like, "Nah. He doesn't have it. What are chances?.......DAMMIT!!"

I don't play much, I don't like to concentrate for five hours straight on just poker. Games where you can buy out when you're tired are nice. Just don't play for fifteen minutes, double up and bail:cmad:

My good luck hands are Queen-10 or 4-5. I seem to win with both.
 
I'm talking about that site, I never like to play online. More fun facing your the person and get to know his tells :D being deaf I'm kinda good at reading faces :woot:


Hows hard is it playing poker deaf?

ANyone go to full tilt or party poker?
 
We play mixed games at a cheap rate (pass the deal, dealer chooses the game) and every now and then we will have a hold em tournament with a decent buy-in and pay out to 1st and 2nd place.
I love it.
But, I do not like casino games nearly as much. I hate playing the house, I would rather play other players. Blackjack=empty pockets for me.
 

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