Are the two CW shows going to tie in with the movies?

[Team Andino]

...but they are in the same... Multiverse.

 

[metaphysician]

mirakuru is NOT a superpower its a serum that was injected and they have a cure for it. You dont have cures for superpowers only weaknesses.

Mutantkind says "hi". A person treated with mirakuru has superhuman strength, enhanced reflexes, durability, and healing enough to largely ignore being shot. It grants superpowers. The fact that those powers can be removed is no more relevant than that mutant powers can be nullified.

 

[agentorange]

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

from what have heard sadly no and its all down to guys like goyer and the producers

personally i think its a moronic idea. i think flash is the sticking point because he is one of the big names in the jla. as much as i love arrow i woud take a scene in a justice league movie where he is seen fighting of something in starling during the big fight. or even a bit at the end saying they may need to expand the league and show a cameo then

 

[Spider-Kurt!]

I wouldn't mind a cameo where Arrow helps the Justice League out but declines their membership for whatever reason.

 

[Ceb-Man]

As a creative type I completely applaud DC's approach. Nothing more annoying than being limited in what you can do because you're anchored by some shared continuity.

Even in the comics there are multiple interpretations of the DC characters and rightfully so. Not every version is going to cater to the same audience. Not only that but it makes it a lot easier now for them to get their IP's out there in the public consciousness.

If somebody for whatever reason could never get into Batman movies but finds the approach of Gotham works for them boom you have a new fan right there. A lot of you guys that post on this site wouldn't know who many of the DC icons are if it wasn't for the Timm verse because you don't read comic books. I think you could afford the same luxury to future potential fans as well.

I mean look at all the people who now actually know who Green Arrow is and are even checking out his comics because of the show. That wouldn't have happened if they were stuck on some "everything must connect" mentality that wouldn't allow Green Arrow to show up in any media outside of film. Now when an actual Green Arrow movie is ever made you have an even wider audience to appeal to because now a wider audience is aware of the IP and it's fundamentals.

Same thing if anybody wants to make a Hellblazer movie one day they don't have to worry about stepping on the toes of the Constantine TV show.

I never quite got the narrow minded "they have to follow Marvel's playbook" comments. Not only is that creatively stifling but it also doesn't mean it's a formula that would work for everybody.

Also considering how important the multiversal concepts have been to the comic book DCU for the past 40 - 50 years of it's existence I think it's appropriate that the media adaptations also take a similar approach of multiple interpretations from different creators across all different mediums. Can't see how anybody who would consider themselves a true DC fan would be put off by it.

I agree! I like the kinda mulitverse concept. I think the shows and movies should be different.

 

[LoganGambit87]

i do think amell would work well in a movie he is a solid actor and is getting better episode by episode and has a tough ruggedly handsome look and a muscular physique he is as good as cavill is imo

 

[DOBSON10]

I'm extremely happy they are keeping them separate. Stephen Amell and Grant Gustin are not good enough actors to be in a movie. Gustin is too young to be part of the movie, everyone in the cast would make him look like a little kid except Eisenburg. Actors in their teens and early 20's are OK for TV characters (there are exceptions of course) but I want to see adults in the big screen versions. Actors in their later 20's and above have had more time to work on the craft of acting (there are exceptions of course Gadot for example) and most of the time the lesser talented actors get weeded out in the casting process when it comes to movies. If they were to put Amell and Gustin in an audition for the movie they would very likely not make the cut. Stephen Amell isn't even the best actor on his own show, Manu Bennett is, and you want him to be Green Arrow in the movie version instead of someone with better acting skills just because he's been the character for a couple seasons on a TV show?

They are decent TV shows, well Arrow is, Flash isn't far enough in to know yet but they don't and won't stand up to the scrutiny of the big screen. The actors and storylines are fine for TV shows but movies are just better crafted in every way, assuming it's in the right hands. Bigger budget, better actors and the majority of the time better directors, better writers.

There are already several versions of these characters out there for people to digest and it's been working out fine (comics, cartoons, animated movies, big budget films). I have a hard time believing anyone is going to go into the Justice League movie and say "I don't like this because Grant Gustin is my Flash". Because when the movie is over, you can just go back to watching Amell and Gustin on TV. I think most people are capable of differentiating between the two, only people who are fixated on Amell and Gustin will really care, because they want their guy in the movie. Because odds are very likely that the movie version actors will be significantly better actors.

On top of that, once you connect the movie versions with the TV version, then that limits what the TV show can do from a direction standpoint. You might have to break off a storyline from the show for an episode or possibly more to explain details from the movie, or continue a storyline from the movie. On top of that, you have two different directors, with different ideas and different motivations for the character trying to find a way to co-exist with each other. That's not the ideal setting to make the characters and the universe function on all cylinders. S.H.I.E.L.D. is held back because of being connected to the movies, it weakens the product overall because the actors and characters in the show aren't as good as the movie versions, the main characters play virtually no role in the TV show outside of minor cameo's and budget is much smaller so the show and movie aren't on a level playing field. Then, when a movie comes out they have to write that into the show to fill in blanks, explain details, continue storylines etc., all while not having some of the most important people in those storylines on the show. Makes the TV show feel even less significant IMO.

Keep them separate, people who want the TV show connected will just have to learn to like both versions. As long as both versions are done well, I'll be happy watching both.

 

[baerrtt]

Also there is far more at stake financially with movie franchises though. ARROW could conceivably end up losing it's current popularity which in the fickle world of tv will lead to cancellation one day and as someone else said in this thread the Flash show may go the way...of the Flash show in 1990 and last just one season. The only time you crossover tv characters onto the big screen is if the tv show IS the source material (the Star Trek movies that featured the OS and TNG cast for example).

 

[erehwon0]

The scenario of connected movie/TV universe can only work if a single group of writers wrote both. This would be logistically impossible.