Are the two CW shows going to tie in with the movies?

[Heretic]

It's not that it's confusing...it's needlessly infuriating.

 

[luis4u]

Hey tom welling was superman and Brandon routh ..

 

[guitarsingerguy]

It's not that it's confusing...it's needlessly infuriating.

Infuriating...wow that's a strong word.

 

[luis4u]

Hey tom welling was superman and Brandon routh ..

Forgot henry cavill was cast as superman and smallvile was still running ..

 

[Cain]

As a creative type I completely applaud DC's approach. Nothing more annoying than being limited in what you can do because you're anchored by some shared continuity.

Even in the comics there are multiple interpretations of the DC characters and rightfully so. Not every version is going to cater to the same audience. Not only that but it makes it a lot easier now for them to get their IP's out there in the public consciousness.

If somebody for whatever reason could never get into Batman movies but finds the approach of Gotham works for them boom you have a new fan right there. A lot of you guys that post on this site wouldn't know who many of the DC icons are if it wasn't for the Timm verse because you don't read comic books. I think you could afford the same luxury to future potential fans as well.

I mean look at all the people who now actually know who Green Arrow is and are even checking out his comics because of the show. That wouldn't have happened if they were stuck on some "everything must connect" mentality that wouldn't allow Green Arrow to show up in any media outside of film. Now when an actual Green Arrow movie is ever made you have an even wider audience to appeal to because now a wider audience is aware of the IP and it's fundamentals.

Same thing if anybody wants to make a Hellblazer movie one day they don't have to worry about stepping on the toes of the Constantine TV show.

I never quite got the narrow minded "they have to follow Marvel's playbook" comments. Not only is that creatively stifling but it also doesn't mean it's a formula that would work for everybody.

Also considering how important the multiversal concepts have been to the comic book DCU for the past 40 - 50 years of it's existence I think it's appropriate that the media adaptations also take a similar approach of multiple interpretations from different creators across all different mediums. Can't see how anybody who would consider themselves a true DC fan would be put off by it.

 

[agentorange]

I agree with guitarsingerguy. These guys are good for television actors but I don't think they got what it takes to pull off Arrow & Flash on the big screen. But still it would have been nice if that was to happen and then maybe have Cavill or Affleck do little cameos on the show every now and then like Samuel L. Jackson on Agents Of SHIELD.

 

[mocomic]

Separate universe is wonderful guys.

No crap of cant do that, oh no avoid that.

I'm more worried about not using Batverse stuff.
Remember Fox is doing Gotham.

I think Nightwing will be off limits.

I think being in MCU is holding AOS show back

So I'm making lemonade

Oops my rant may belong in a series forum, but it did apply to some posts
Gotta love SHH forums, if only there was a Blacklist one

 

[Black Narcissus]

I agree with guitarsingerguy. These guys are good for television actors but I don't think they got what it takes to pull off Arrow & Flash on the big screen. But still it would have been nice if that was to happen and then maybe have Cavill or Affleck do little cameos on the show every now and then like Samuel L. Jackson on Agents Of SHIELD.

If you paid me fifty-thousand per word, I would also cameo on every DC show.

Now hush, boy.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Plus, do y'all remember when people were talking about not wanting anyone but Justin Hartley to play Green Arrow? If that was the case, we wouldn't have gotten Amell, who I believe is vastly superior in the role. The same situation can be said with the movie universe. Why not allow a different actor put his spin on things in that universe?

 

[Black Narcissus]

Plus, do y'all remember when people were talking about not wanting anyone but Justin Hartley to play Green Arrow? If that was the case, we wouldn't have gotten Amell, who I believe is vastly superior in the role. The same situation can be said with the movie universe. Why not allow a different actor put his spin on things in that universe?

Don't worry! They won't be connected.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Don't worry! They won't be connected.

I know they won't be, but I can't understand why some people want them to be.

 

[luis4u]

I know they won't be, but I can't understand why some people want them to be.

If they do people will accused wb DC is copying marvel.

If they don’t people will accused DC is so behind they need too catch up

 

[Rorschach2012]

The answer is no. The CW shows are going to keep expanding while the movies do their own thing. By the end of its run, the CW DC universe will likely have introduced their own Justice League, and they will probably have introduced several other major A-List heroes. i wonder where the ceiling is as far as what characters can be used by the CW.. Green Arrow, Black Canary and The Flash are obviously major characters, it's fair to assume that other major characters will be introduced down the line.
If The Flash is successful, there will probably be other spinoffs. None of this will impact the movies though. We'll probably never get Batman, Wonder Woman or Superman in the CW DCU, but they'll probably do solid renditions of just about everyone else. There will probably be nods here and there to the trinity, but that's as far as it will go probably..
I don't see the problem with this. It just means we get two extensive DC live action universes, and neither of them would ever be burdened down by continuity problems.

 

[Donut]

I'm sure we can no doubt get say Superboy & or Supergirl on The CW at one point

 

[agentorange]

I'm sure we can no doubt get say Superboy & or Supergirl on The CW at one point

I thought the producers didn't want anybody with real superpowers on the show cause it would take away the limelight from Green Arrow so thats why they gave Flash his own spinoff

 

[Donut]

I thought the producers didn't want anybody with real superpowers on the show cause it would take away the limelight from Green Arrow so thats why they gave Flash his own spinoff

Things can always change as the show gets older

 

[Human Torch]

Plus, do y'all remember when people were talking about not wanting anyone but Justin Hartley to play Green Arrow? If that was the case, we wouldn't have gotten Amell, who I believe is vastly superior in the role. The same situation can be said with the movie universe. Why not allow a different actor put his spin on things in that universe?

In the case of Green Arrow,I seriously doubt Amell will easily be surpassed as Arrow (I'm talking the foreseeable future.)I don't think Hartley could make that claim.(Not dumping on Hartley,BTW.He was my favorite thing about that show.)

 

[Primal Slayer]

They played 2 very different versions of the characters. Depends on what you are looking for.

 

[Lantern Venom]

The answer is no. The CW shows are going to keep expanding while the movies do their own thing. By the end of its run, the CW DC universe will likely have introduced their own Justice League, and they will probably have introduced several other major A-List heroes. i wonder where the ceiling is as far as what characters can be used by the CW.. Green Arrow, Black Canary and The Flash are obviously major characters, it's fair to assume that other major characters will be introduced down the line.
If The Flash is successful, there will probably be other spinoffs. None of this will impact the movies though. We'll probably never get Batman, Wonder Woman or Superman in the CW DCU, but they'll probably do solid renditions of just about everyone else. There will probably be nods here and there to the trinity, but that's as far as it will go probably..
I don't see the problem with this. It just means we get two extensive DC live action universes, and neither of them would ever be burdened down by continuity problems.

All good points, and it's probably more likely that we'll see lesser-known characters on the CW than in the movie franchise. Deathstroke is a perfect example of a great character who needed the long-developing arc of episodic storytelling to show why he's so popular with fans.

 

[metaphysician]

I thought the producers didn't want anybody with real superpowers on the show cause it would take away the limelight from Green Arrow so thats why they gave Flash his own spinoff

As I recall, the producers didn't want superpowers in their *world*, period, because they wanted the show to be a grounded, Nolanesque affair. That obviously changed.

 

[agentorange]

As I recall, the producers didn't want superpowers in their *world*, period, because they wanted the show to be a grounded, Nolanesque affair. That obviously changed.

has it really changed? I dont think Flash will be back on the show since he has his own now and i dont really consider the mirakuru a superpower

 

[HeyDude]

Can't they do something like make the DC Movieverse Earth 1 and DC Televerse Earth 2? Then maybe connect the two realities using wormholes or something in the second or third JL film?

 

[metaphysician]

has it really changed? I dont think Flash will be back on the show since he has his own now and i dont really consider the mirakuru a superpower

Flash takes place in the same world, and mirakuru is very obviously a superpower. There's really not anything to argue.

 

[agentorange]

Flash takes place in the same world, and mirakuru is very obviously a superpower. There's really not anything to argue.

mirakuru is NOT a superpower its a serum that was injected and they have a cure for it. You dont have cures for superpowers only weaknesses.

 

[DrCosmic]

As I recall, the producers didn't want superpowers in their *world*, period, because they wanted the show to be a grounded, Nolanesque affair. That obviously changed.

Hmmmm... it sounds like they just found out how to keep their show grounded while having superpowers in their world, ie, putting the superpowers on another show.

And their other reasoning, they don't want any heroes cooler than Arrow in Arrow is intuitive and intact even when they have super powered villains, especially when you have Grounded Super Powers (TM) that are just ideal versions of real world stuff, which is true of everything about Arrow's abilities.