Is Anyone Else Getting a Little Tired of The Berlanti DC Shows?

[2kt09]

I'm not sure what I'll watch next.

Preacher

 

[Osiris-Rex]

Flash, Supergirl, Arrow, and DC's Legends of Tomorrow have all been renewed for another season according to Deadline.

http://deadline.com/2017/01/the-cw-...ral-the-flash-crazy-ex-girlfriend-1201880713/

 

[metaphysician]

And this de facto means that both Supergirl and LOT will get a 4th season, via syndication math and CW's netflix contract.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

And this de facto means that both Supergirl and LOT will get a 4th season, via syndication math and CW's netflix contract.

Supposedly the Netflix deal alone makes $1 billion for the CW superhero shows. When you consider that BvS and SS together made around $1.5 billion, and probably cost more money to make, the CW shows are where the real profits lie.

 

[metaphysician]

Indeed. Which would certainly explain how the CW holds out against pressure from the more traditionally prestigious movie operation.

 

[2kt09]

This means they have a bigger clout to maintain the quality
or improve if things are slipping. I do wish they improved much more instead of relying on the "made for tv/just for teens" excuse.

 

[Slade W]

While I still enjoy DCTV, right now it does seem that they already reached their peak a few years ago (Arrow seasons 1-2 and Flash season 1), and will not reach that level again.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I still want to know how people at S.T.A.R. Labs can afford money for all the tinkering they do, electricity, repairs after attacks, internet, and all that coffee.
HOW CAN THEY AFFORD ALL THAT?

 

[Primal Slayer]

Right. One problem with Flash/Arrow is that their personal/work lives are basically non-existent. How do they afford Star Labs? How do Cisco/Caitlin get paid? On E2 Star Labs is a museum of sorts. And shouldnt they be working on things for clients? Like that has so much potential.

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah, at least everyone on Supergirl has a clear source of income, lol. They even established that Mon-El is officially an employee of the DEO. They also show people hanging out outside of work/world-saving quite often, which is nice.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I still want to know how people at S.T.A.R. Labs can afford money for all the tinkering they do, electricity, repairs after attacks, internet, and all that coffee.
HOW CAN THEY AFFORD ALL THAT?

Honestly this has been one of my biggest problems with The Flash. Running an operation like S.T.A.R labs would probably cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Who pays for all that?

 

[Primal Slayer]

They really should introduce Professor Hamilton and have him work at/take over Star labs.

 

[Primal Slayer]

So Berlanti has 10 shows in production giving him the record of most scripted shows that will be on air at once. Great for him but I don't really get what every studio sees in him.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

They really should introduce Professor Hamilton and have him work at/take over Star labs.

I'll be up for that if he manages to fix it.

 

[Grommers]

Honestly this has been one of my biggest problems with The Flash. Running an operation like S.T.A.R labs would probably cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Who pays for all that?

"government funding"

but really I don't understand how they have a building that size and we haven't seen a single janitor / maintenance worker in that building.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

So Berlanti has 10 shows in production giving him the record of most scripted shows that will be on air at once. Great for him but I don't really get what every studio sees in him.

Aren't most, if not all, of his shows now produced by Warner Bros.? I guess they like him because his shows make money for them. Same reason NBC likes Dick Wolf, ABC likes Shondra Rhimes, and CBS likes Donald Bellisario

 

[Richard Grayson]

Yes please. I'm very disappointed that the Titans show is gonna be run by him as well. I'm ready for someone else to start producing DC shows

 

[wnjcwjkk]

Never been a fan.

Everything about these teenage CW shows just comes off as cheap and corny. They look like guys playing dress up with costumes from party city.

Plus the 20 episode seasons are a pain to sit through

The Marvel Netflix shows make them even more unwatchable

I feel the same way. I'd love for them to make some serious D.C. series, not connected to DCTV at all. There's so much potential for a great Batman/Gotham City series

 

[Batmannerism]

I feel like Flash has become a little tired - although the team dynamics are always entertaining. A real season of highs and lows.

Same with Arrow.

However, Legends of Tomorrow has been ridiculous, nonsensical fun for the whole season, loved it.

To be honest, I feel like it's not Berlanti that's the problem. Rather it's the 23 x 1 hour episode format that's the problem.

The reasons Legends works better is because it has a shorter season - so there's less messing about.

I believe if Flash and Arrow dropped to 16 episodes it would tighten up the storylines.

So in summary, my problem isn't with Berlanti per se - he's a bit formulaic, but fun - I think the problem is the format in general.

cheers.

 

[mat-chow]

I basically just stopped caring about the onslaught of CW DC shows. I realize they're adaptations, but the whole "everyone has a team" thing and the teen-ness of the stupid relationship subplots just drove me out. Also hate the reliance on leather outfits. Occasionally I'll see a clip containing something that looks cool, but I'll never catch episodes in full again. Caveat- Introduce Batman and I'll watch that episode for sure, just to see. Like I did for Superman's debut on Supergirl.

 

[Arraph]

I pretty much made my account to post on this thread, I feel strongly about these Berlanti shows. My post is full of scattered opinions, bare with me.

The Berlanti shows suffer the most from the repetitive formula that they all have in common and the 23 episode thing. I appreciate watching Netflix shows thru and thru and not worrying about pacing or filler because it is forced to be to the point but in no way are they limited.

One of my big problems with the shows are the support teams, The Flash and Arrow of the comics don’t require so much assistance. CW Barry always needs pep talks to find the strength to overcome adversity. I just have a hard time imagining him on a bigger team like the JL and needing Cisco, Joe, Wells, Iris, and Caitlin in his ear coaching him on how to complete a command that Batman gave him.

Arrow & Supergirl are both cringe in different ways. Legends of Tomorrow lost me VERY EARLY… I hate how this team of C/D level heroes are made to seem so important, when in reality half all their battles would’ve been solved by the Justice League. The Flash has a bevy of inconsistencies, like showing him amazingly fast but can manage to get intercepted by a monkey or how Killer Frost managed to run away from him.

The Flash also has the freak of the week routine every episode till they fight the big bad. It becomes predictable, even the reveals are predictable now, its all too repetitive. The plot line feels linear and 2D, which is ironic because DC shows like Young Justice felt like they had Three-dimensional plot lines.

The show Gotham works a little better because the world of Batman is so developed while Arrow, Flash, & Supergirls worlds have so many crosshairs with other heroes & other heroes primary villains. But unfortunately the Berlanti shows have to avoid so much of the DC Universe. Arrow is constantly pulling from Batman(but wont show him), Supergirl almost couldn’t work without Superman & his villains so they just put the guy in the show, The Flash hasn’t run dry on material but unfortunately all the material to pull from is similar(Why all of the big bad are speedsters)

In my opinion, these characters and stories deserve (at bare minimum) Netflix quality, or even better HBO quality. Imagine Titans with Game of Thrones level production(why not?). I hope Titans is set outside of the Berlanti-verse/Arrowverse. Those are some of the most well known characters, if they were done wrong I’d be super upset. Also logistically I don’t think setting the Titans in the Berlanti-verse is a good idea in the first place. How could Nightwing & Kid Flash be on a Superhero Team while Batman and Flash aren’t on a team let alone met each other?

I applaud the Berlanti shows for FINALLY giving us costumed action in a tv show, but I wish they elevated past network television standards.

TLDR: These characters deserve better (writers/actors/production) The shows are becoming repetitive and predictable