The Amazing Spider-Man Are there any characters you DON'T want to see again?

[I'm Venom]

Then we're just left wondering why Brock doesn't just go and tell anyone Peter is Spider-Man while giving proof that Peter can't refute.

And no, his stupid "No one kills you but me!" crap wouldn't work in live-action. It was dumb in the comics and it'd be dumb here.

Either don't have the villains find out Peter is Spidey, or kill the ones that DO know.

Venom isn't good for more than one story anyways.

Brock is a man broken, consumed by jealously, and humiliated. He doesn't care about exposing Parker, only punishing him. He's the only villain that knows Parker is Spider-Man who wouldn't necessarily have to be killed off.

As long as Brock appears in the first three films and becomes Venom in the fourth, he isn't needed for any more movies, unless they want to introduce Carnage in this franchise, which I don't even want to debate because nobody knows. I'm not saying Carnage is impossible to do without Venom, because he isn't, but it would be better to do Carnage, if they do him at all, with Venom.

 

[Anwar]

Carnage is craptastic.

I say just have Brock in one movie before the symbiote story, then have the symbiote movie be ONE movie with Venom in it (and just make sure there's just Venoma s the end enemy) and then have him killed off at the end. He's only good for one story.

Characters like Brock aren't necessary for 3 movies of build-up, just one and a half at most. Or just use him in the first movie to establish he doesn't like Peter, then NOT have him be in any of the movies until the symbiote one. That way he won't eat up screentime or money.

 

[Michael Frost]

For Venom to work as a character they need to introduce Eddie Brock very early and have him getting constantly harassed by Spider-man. TAS setted him up perfectly by having him getting his life ruined slowly by a series of unfortunate events with Spiderman in the middle.

There's not even a need to have the whole comic sin eater ********. Venom can be made into a way more effective villain if he's first seen as a tragic figure of a normal guy with his life going upside down and him hitting rock bottom.

 

[Chris Wallace]

One thing I thought they did well on Spectacular was not having Eddie bring his downfall/disgrace on himself.

 

[Michael Frost]

For Venom to work as a character they need to introduce Eddie Brock very early and have him getting constantly harassed by Spider-man. TAS setted him up perfectly by having him getting his life ruined slowly by a series of unfortunate events with Spiderman in the middle.

There's not even a need to have the whole comic sin eater ********. Venom can be made into a way more effective villain if he's first seen as a tragic figure of a normal guy with his life going upside down and him hitting rock bottom.

 

[LightningFlash]

For the record, those of you who don't want GG, Ock, Sandman, Venom, etc. in the first move, who are you expecting to be the villain?

I think it would be pretty lame if there wasn't a superpowered villain in the film, and while I guess they could go with Vulture, Electro, Shocker, Scorpion, whoever, it would seem odd for that villain to be the first.

Vulture would be a great villain for the first film. And so would Electro, imo. Especially if we get the Enforcers, and Electro as their leader or the middle man between the Enforcers and who ever hired them and Electro(the Big Man).

And the way I'm regarding the way Electro could be played out in the film is if they go the Ultimate route with him.

 

[LightningFlash]

For Venom to work as a character they need to introduce Eddie Brock very early and have him getting constantly harassed by Spider-man. TAS setted him up perfectly by having him getting his life ruined slowly by a series of unfortunate events with Spiderman in the middle.

There's not even a need to have the whole comic sin eater ********. Venom can be made into a way more effective villain if he's first seen as a tragic figure of a normal guy with his life going upside down and him hitting rock bottom.

That's what I thought Raimi was trying to do with the hint of his name from the first film. And as always, Raimi got my hopes up.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I meant at all regarding MJ. Keep her what she was initially a supproting character.

The second sentence wasn't directed at you, but regarding all the "Let's wait on Ock/Goblin/Venom" posts.

 

[Anwar]

For Venom to work as a character they need to introduce Eddie Brock very early and have him getting constantly harassed by Spider-man. TAS setted him up perfectly by having him getting his life ruined slowly by a series of unfortunate events with Spiderman in the middle.

There's not even a need to have the whole comic sin eater ********. Venom can be made into a way more effective villain if he's first seen as a tragic figure of a normal guy with his life going upside down and him hitting rock bottom.

Brock was only in two TAS episodes before the Venom saga, which shows you only need to show him once at the start and then that's it until the symbiote story. Plus TAS implied he was already a jerk.

In every version, Eddie is not a good person to begin with. Yes even in the original comics he was already amoral: He SAYS he was trying to protect the Sin-Eater fake but HE WAS USING A PSYCHO-KILLER TO BOOST HIS CAREER!

So I say keep him as a not-good person to begin with, and the symbiote just makes it worse.

He doesn't even have to lose his job or anything, he just becomes so drunk with power that he becomes a threat and Peter has to stop him.

 

[The Joker]

Brock was only in two TAS episodes before the Venom saga

Actually he was in three. Spider-Slayers was a two parter.

 

[Anwar]

Yeah, you're right. But it was one story...

But the fact is, he was in the first three episodes then NOTHING till the end of S1.

So you can have Brock be in the first movie, then just have him not show up at all until the Symbiote movie. He becomes Venom maybe in the last 1/3 of the movie. 1/3 is all he needs, I mean TAS did a good Venom story in 20 minutes.

 

[FVD]

I'm also of the opinion that Mary Jane should be reintroduced as a supporting character like Flash Thompson and Liz Allen etc. I do hope that Gwen gets more exposure in this outing as should her father.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

no green goblin for the first 2 films, but keep norman build him up. for **** sake he's spider-man main villain(sorry ock fanboys but it's true) so he has to come back


sadly if they are going to use the ultimate story line the character will be ****ed more than a $5 hooker

 

[SpeterMan3]

I'm also of the opinion that Mary Jane should be reintroduced as a supporting character like Flash Thompson and Liz Allen etc. I do hope that Gwen gets more exposure in this outing as should her father.

 

[FVD]

...and I wouldn't mind Eddie Brock in there actually. I do like the idea of building him up like they did with Harry in the Raimiverse. And speaking of Harry hmm...

But yes NO VENOM. And NO CARNAGE EITHER!! Focus on the Classic Villains first and I really liked what Greg Weisman did with TSSM. I mean why not even have Spidey foil Marko and O'Hearn's robberies too. There doesn't need to be Villain Origins all the time. That's been done to death in the films already. And that's why you'll probably never see the likes of Scorpion, Mysterio and Shocker as much as us fans want to see him. And if there was a way for Sony to get Kingpin in there too. Damn you Fox!!

 

[blackbyrd]

Venom....He is a bore and they way he looks on screen is lame.

I would be ok with Gwen if they did it correctly based on canon. It would also be cool to see GG kill her like the comics.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Ive got no worries about the interpretations in the reboot.

Peter will be a witty wiz-kid. Unlike before where he was meek crybaby.
JJ will be ruthless. Unlike before where he was comic relief.
Gwen will actually be herself. Unlike before where she was a ditzy airhead.
MJ will actually be herself. Unlike before where she was a mean jealous slapper.

The villains will ACTUALLY BE EVIL. Unlike before where they had tragic origins and were nice guys,then turn evil,then nice again before they kill themselves.

Please let it be like that. Otherwise, I dont want to see them again.

 

[Chris Wallace]

None of this is guaranteed. ESPECIALLY with them retaining the same writer.

 

[Sentinel X]

The American flag.

First off, thats not a character. Secondly, you just reminded me that had to be the STUPIDEST fanboy complaint during the raimi movies. It was forced and gaudy in Spider-man 3, but in the first two films it wasn't. Spider-man lives in New York, which everyone in the world knows is in America. So whats the big deal?

Anyways for me...
No Eddie Brock/Venom
No stupid kids going "Awesome!" "Whoa!" etc

 

[Chris Wallace]

Why wouldn't there be kids reacting to the sight of a guy swinging around on webs?
I'm kind of hoping they take Betty out & replace her with Glory.

 

[The Joker]

It's good to see most people not wanting to see Venom again. There's hope for the Spider-Man fans yet

 

[Chris Wallace]

I would have to agree. Although I think many of them are saying it because they didn't like how Raimi & Co. presented him, not because they truly just don't want him.

 

[Rodrigo90]

None of this is guaranteed. ESPECIALLY with them retaining the same writer.

I know. More so,because theyre basing it on Ultimate. Where Gwen is not so good-hearted,liked threatening people with knives and was Carnage. I pray THAT never happens.

Why cant they just splice 50% 616 and 50% Ultimate together? Thats something I think we all could live with.

 

[Anwar]

Evil villains who are evil simply for the sake of being evil are flat characters. The Joker in TDK worked out mainly because of Ledger's acting, the character Nolan created in and of itself was just a plot device and not a real character.

Now his take on Ra's, that was good. He was bad for wanting to destroy Gotham but he was hardly some random bum thief.

 

[spidermanJLA!~]

For the first three films, I don't want to see Dr. Octopus, Green Goblin, Sandman, or Venom (only Eddie Brock). Introduce the symbiote in the third film and set up a cliffhanger for Venom in the fourth film.

i agree. this is why SM3 got some bad reviews. they tried to combine everything into one film. It is also why venom had very little screen time.