Arnold Is Back for Terminator 5

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Clu looked frickin weird.

 

[steintym]

I really want to be excited about this, but I just don't know ...

Arnold is really starting to show the years.

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

John is barely anything. He's always been blah...

Strongly disagree. T3 and Salvation diminished his place in the series after the first two movies set up his character. It's a matter of making John interesting.

I'll quote a user from Terminator Files:

What they really need to do is have John Connor descend into hell. It's fine and dandy for young John Connor to not want to accept compromise, but as John Connor grows up, he needs to find out that there's no such thing as a win-win situation. He needs to constantly be put in situations where no matter what decision he makes, people are going to die. Put him in situations where refusal to make a decision results in even more deaths than making the tough call would have. Make John Connor seriously question his role in this war and in this timeline. Is he really destined to make the correct decisions, no matter what? Or is he perpetually one bad decision away from ruining humanity's hopes of survival? Don't make John Connor some badass who's convinced he can't lose. Make him a tortured individual saddled with incredible pressure, who's afraid to put too much faith in fate. Make him lose people precious to him. Make him constantly aware that he will have to pay a terrible price for victory. This is a man who will lose everything dear to him in order to give humanity a second chance, and he knows it. There's a lot of room for inner turmoil with John Connor. John Connor doesn't have to be a boring character. It's just a matter of finding writers who are willing to make John Connor more than just a one-dimensional action figure.

 

[hippie_hunter]

The team that did Clu did a horrible job. Now the team that did Benjamin Button and Terminator Salvation, those were awesome.

Also, in the instances of Clu and Benjamin Button, they still had Jeff Bridges and Brad Pitt in the roles of Clu 2 and Benjamin while they used CGI to change their ages. Bridges and Pitt did waaaaay more than just voice their CGI versions.

 

[antsman41]

He was a ghost character in the original and in T2 he was a Anakin-Light character. He was annoying, nasaly, faux punk (to show an edge), was too young, and just odd.

Furlong was bad. Luckily the rest of the movie was frickin' amazing...

 

[Rowsdower!]

I hope to God that Bale stays away from this. His career took a hit with Terminator Salvation, mostly over the rant thing, but also because it was just a flat-out bad movie. So much backstory and yet the writers still didn't know how to make John Connor, the savior of humanity, into an interesting character. Pathetic.

Bale's much better than this crap... hope he doesn't feel compelled to try this again. The first two Terminator films were good. After that, they should have just let it die.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

He was a ghost character in the original and in T2 he was a Anakin-Light character. He was annoying, nasaly, faux punk (to show an edge), was too young, and just odd.

Furlong was bad. Luckily the rest of the movie was frickin' amazing...

I totally disagree. While you could argue he was anoying. He is suppodily this prophet like character that will save humanity. Instead of making him a goodie-two shoes Jesus Child, he comes across as a fairly typical, flawed teenager which helps ancor the movie down (regardless of all the Hollywoody stuff) into a sense of realism.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Yeah, they should have, but they didn't. It's why I'm hoping that they use Wisher's treatment which calls for two more films and brings the franchise to a close in time for the rights to revert back to Cameron, who obviously won't revive it.

 

[DarKush]

I'm curious about if Terminator 5 will follow up with Salvation or do something different. As for Arnold, I would be happy to see him again. I had always wished, before Terminator 3, and after, that if the movies do what they did in some of the Terminator novels and just create a human character for Arnold to play, a guy who could serve as the T-800 template.

And not the Sgt. Candy guy from the T3 deleted scenes. But Dieter von Rossbach, yes:

http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Dieter_von_Rossbach

 

[TX85]

Terminator1&2 are of course the classics and my favs,But I personally really enjoyed ALL 4 films and with Arnold coming back and this director with potential.....I am pretty excited&anxious to know more about this!

I really don't get why they should ignore 3&Salvation,Just cause YOU hate it!?!?,3&Salvation are sequels where they were meant to be cannon and so I think it should all stay together&not ignored just cause some personally disliked them!

 

[Maboroshi]

The team that did Clu did a horrible job. Now the team that did Benjamin Button and Terminator Salvation, those were awesome.

Also, in the instances of Clu and Benjamin Button, they still had Jeff Bridges and Brad Pitt in the roles of Clu 2 and Benjamin while they used CGI to change their ages. Bridges and Pitt did waaaaay more than just voice their CGI versions.

The same company did both Tron Legacy and Benjamin Button. Digital Domain.

ILM did Salvation.

 

[Timstuff]

I wonder if Arnold will play two roles in this movie with the assistance of CG, like Jeff Bridges in Tron Legacy? He could play a human being who the 101 T-800s are modeled after, and then the T-800 is present in the movie with a young version of Arnold's face, like in Terminator Salvation? It would certainly bring something unique to this iteration of the franchise.

 

[TX85]

I think Clu in Tron Legacy was done amazingly well!,would be awesome IF they did the same for Arnold and use his T2 face or something.

I would also love for Arnold to play a human character like finally showing the man behind the model template for the T-800,A general that was captured and used as a prototype model and the machines just made a young version,While Arnold also gets to play the terminator again and still look cause of a CGI young face as Arnold would just need to get back in shape.

 

[Nightmare]

I wonder if Arnold will play two roles in this movie with the assistance of CG, like Jeff Bridges in Tron Legacy? He could play a human being who the 101 T-800s are modeled after, and then the T-800 is present in the movie with a young version of Arnold's face, like in Terminator Salvation? It would certainly bring something unique to this iteration of the franchise.

I'd like to see them go this route. We still get a big bad T-800 and Arnold as he looks today. So both sides win. I just want a great script and movie. The writers are important here as well.

 

[Terminator]

I liked Terminator Salvation and I want to see the series finally reach 2029. Don't want more Arnie unless it's a deaging scene sending him back to 1984. But with him returning to the big screen, you know it'll be more than that. T-850.50 travels back to yadda yadda yadda. Do not want.

Robert Patrick could play a scientist trying to create a way to regenerate
dead tissue on burn victims.The liquid Terminator is designed on his image.

Arnold could be a firefighter with severe burns due to an explosion.The computer has his information,so in the future all Terminators resemble him.

A firefighter? What?

I've heard people toss around the idea of having Robert Patrick and Arnold in as humans and I can't understand it at all. Why? Why would anyone want to see that? Isn't it much better to remember Patrick by his iconic performance in T2? Why mess with it? They're too old to play Terminators and they shouldn't be cast as humans so just leave them out of it. Unfortunately, to a lot of people, Terminator is Arnold, like Rocky and Stallone, so as long as he's around and someone is trying to milk the Terminator cow, he's probably never going to leave the series.

 

[nightwing06]

Should have ended with T2

 

[dude stannis]

Well Terminator Salvation established that Cyberdine were experimenting on convicts before judgment day. Have an opening scene where a de-aged Arnie (Using make up like in the old days!) plays a lifer who was a CIA hitman or something getting a reduced sentence for agreeing to donate blood, bone marrow, hair, skin, stool and semen samples to Cyberdine. On judgment day he gets in a fight and dragged to the hole sparing him. Justify that Skynet used all it's nukes on major military targets and highly populated areas and used ICBM's on low population areas.

I read William Wisher's concept and I liked 90% of it. With the exception of bringing back Sarah Connor. That's unnecessary.

Hopefully there's some actual combat between the Resistance and the Termnators. That's what I was hoping for in TS, but the Resistance just sat on their ass the whole time.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

I really want to be excited about this, but I just don't know ...

Arnold is really starting to show the years.

This.

Also I'd rather have a good/ok story and no Arnold.

 

[Maximus One]

Strongly disagree. T3 and Salvation diminished his place in the series after the first two movies set up his character. It's a matter of making John interesting.

I'll quote a user from Terminator Files:

This is an absolute perfect example of how John Conner needs to be handled. I don't even think I could've articulated it that well lol

 

[Maximus One]

Or the thing you posted, you know what I mean

 

[DocHoliday]

Justin Lin and Arnold? i'll be there. I'd assume they will try to get his connection to John and Diesel to get one of them on board too. Get a good script and Lin will do hi thing. Also get Bale back. Salvation is not great but if Connor features int he film why not give bale better material and a 2nd crack at it?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I'd agree Nick Stahl was abit of a nancy lacking Edward Furlongs edgyness. But I found Christian Bale to be as robotic as the robots he was fighting. If I think of back Linda Hamilton in Terminator 2. She was also this super-hard character. But she also had humanity around her and dimension. Actually, I'd say quite alot, Throughout the movie she went through the motions of being frustrated, aggressive like an animal, repressed, confused and enlightened and all that jazz. Like that wonderful scene in which she's sort of watching The Terminator with John Conner character. Salvation has none of that, when it attempted to, it didn't resonate. It's Christian Bale being an angry cookie monster.

The thing though that got me, it didn't feel like a Terminator movie, or in general, have much in the way of fun. I didn't have that problem with 3. It had a couple of great action scenes, a couple of funny moments and references to the previous movies. It was alright, didn't blow my socks off. But wasn't the disaster it could have ended up being.

I have to say I enjoy T3 more than TS as well, T3 had some fun, and some emotional moments as well, watching TS, you just dont tend to feel anything, with maybe the one exception being when Marcus discovers he's a robot, the rest you just watch not reacting. TS should have been so much more, but McG messed up the basics.

As for another Terminator movie, Justin Lin being heralded as director doesnt give me any hope what-so-ever that this new movie will bring us back to the good old days of the first 2 movies.

 

[chaseter]

The team that did Clu did a horrible job. Now the team that did Benjamin Button and Terminator Salvation, those were awesome.

Also, in the instances of Clu and Benjamin Button, they still had Jeff Bridges and Brad Pitt in the roles of Clu 2 and Benjamin while they used CGI to change their ages. Bridges and Pitt did waaaaay more than just voice their CGI versions.

CLU looked good until he talked. They just couldn't work out the mouth movement to make it look natural. It's just really hard to do exact cgi lifelike characters.

 

[nouan]

Should have ended with T2

Seconded.

 

[finalrelief]

Super stoked for this! Loved all the Terminator films.. I'm hoping for this to take place after T4 though, maybe 2029....and then T6 2032, I actually liked the idea of the Terminator assassinating John Connor for real