Let's talk Terminator 3...

I agree with Warhammer`s comment.T3 did not have to be made,the first and second Terminator films were fantastic.It brought to life,the fears of computers and the future in the 80`s and 90`s.Storywise,i ignore T3..and it was a cash in also.
 
I hate how they screwed up the timeline and didn't have Eddie Furlong. :cmad:
 
The movie was mediocre. Idk, it also just didn't feel right. It didn't belong, Schwarzenegger felt like the only thing that tied this film with the first two.
 
The movie was mediocre. Idk, it also just didn't feel right. It didn't belong, Schwarzenegger felt like the only thing that tied this film with the first two.

Don't forget Dr. Silverman. :woot:

That cameo was greatness, like the best part of the whole movie.
 
The first two films were fantastic!

Terminator 3 wasn't...I was really disappointed with it.

I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it that much either...it was okay, but easily forgettable in my book.

I look forward to The Sarah Connor Chronicles, hope it does a better job as a follow up to Terminator 2 than 3 did.
 
For me the biggest problem with T3 is that it should have never been done. The story to me ended perfectly in part 2 but no they had to milk it to the last drop until the milk got sour. Really I did like the movie for what it was, it was nearly impossible to top the first two specially T2.
However two things that killed part of the fun for me where the waythe cgi was used for the arnold vs terminatrix fight scenes and the campy/cheesy moments. The pub scene with arnie geting the ridiculous shades was awful. In T2 there was some comic relief moments but they felt like they where genuine and natural, they really added something to the story and they worked within the context(john and arnie's relationship progression) of the scenes, they didn't feel like some funny gag for the sake of it. The other thing that they coudn't top no matter how hard they tried was the T-1000.

He was just too badass and too great of a villian to top. They tried though but it just didn't feel the same. The feeling and sense of dread and danger that robert patrick brought to the role was just too great. They tried to give the new terminator cool weapons to make up for the rest, but again it fell short. Plus how can one compare cameron's direction with mostow? and not just that but The story really felt forced to me. It had lets make money no matter how bad this movie is written all over it from the first frame.
 
it was too short; but still rocked.
 
Like others have said, the biggest problems are that it's a totally unnecessary sequel from a story aspect, and it's just too similar to the first two movies.

Its answer to make the machines win is interesting, but kind of a shame and a little out of place...

I've still always thought it was a good action movie. I own it and I'm not afraid to say so... It does pale in comparison to T2, though.
 
T1 and T2 told the story perfectly, and they could have ended it. T3 wasn't bad, it just was completely unneeded.
 
the movie sucked!

Marco Beltrami's score was awful !

Where the hell was the scary and powerful electronic synth score??

And they even had the idiotic decision to not even use the main terminator theme in the movie, and instead put it at the end credits?!! WTF??
They didn't use any of the theme , not even at the start!!

Apparently, Mostow said he wanted to make it "different" to the previous 2 movies. WTF?? The movie was a sequel, you are supposed to re-use themes throughout.

Its like having the James Bond theme removed from the movie and then just having it at the end credits, what a moronic decision!

Part of the reason why Terminator and T2 were so good was because of the musical score, pumping electronic drums and percussion, especially in T2.

Brad Fiedel used the Terminator main theme throughout the 2 movies,

yet in Terminator 3, we got a crappy orchestral score which wasn't even in tone with what the Terminator story was about.

It really irritated me that.

Compare the end scene in Terminator 2 to the end scene in Terminator 3.

Which is more powerful, and has more emotion in it?

Obviously, its T2. What a perfect movie, great story,great effects.

I even think the SFX in T2 is much better than in T3.

T2 more than 16 years later remains fresh and looks just as good as when it first came out.

Shame on you Mostow, you ruined the Terminator!
 
As hot as she is, anything Kristanna Loken touches turns to ****; T3, Bloodrayne, Painkiller Jane. The proof is in the pudding.
 
Personally I couldn't stand T3.

It had some good action and FX, but that was basically it for me.
The T-X wasn't menacing at all, and Arny's terminator was constantly played for laughs, to the point where it felt like I was watching a spoof at times.
The direction did nothing for me, and the visual style of the movie felt anonymous at best... and of course Brad Fiedel's Terminator score was left out, which removed 50% of the feel of the series.
Recasting John might've been okay if they had still had Sarah around played by Linda Hamilton (or vice versa, I could've lived with Sarah being dead if they had Eddie Furlong as John) but the combination just really bothered me.

Then there's a bunch of details (like specific lines, and a certain machine control power that made no sense at all) that bothered me on top of that...

It was just a bad sequel if you ask me. Watchable for a couple of hours of mediocre entertainment if I try to forget the movies it's supposed to follow up on, but otherwise... awful.
 
and a certain machine control power
I don't get this. Are you talking about the hability to control other machines that the TX had? I agree is weird, but not weirder than a liquid metal android.
 
Being able to control other machine's isn't weird. Being able to make a car drive itself when it has no possible means to (turn its own steering wheel, change gears, increase/decrease speed, etc.) is.
 
Being able to control other machine's isn't weird. Being able to make a car drive itself when it has no possible means to (turn its own steering wheel, change gears, increase/decrease speed, etc.) is.

This specifically was what I was thinking about.
 
I see... I'm not engineer or anyhting like that, so I'm asking: It could be posible that those nano things were able to move mechanichal parts of the vehicles, without the need of electronic parts, or soft?

Still, I find it on the same level of weirdness that the liquid metal android :p
 
I see... I'm not engineer or anyhting like that, so I'm asking: It could be posible that those nano things were able to move mechanichal parts of the vehicles, without the need of electronic parts, or soft?

Still, I find it on the same level of weirdness that the liquid metal android :p

Nano-technology could made to do pretty much anything... They don't explain it outside of one line but nano-technology, is bunch of microscoptic robots working together to do one thing, and often they all join together to make big robots, etc etc... IT was kind of lame in T3
 
Difference being:

T1000 ROCKED!!! She sucked!

T3 was garbage. The whole nuclear battery power in the Terminator sucked, the effects looked fake (car explosions especially), and the scene where he gets his clothes was more mocking the original movies than anything.

T1 and T2 told a story, and it was finite. T3 contributed nothing to the series, and was just a cash in. It hold no soul like T1 and T2.
 
The FX were great. I love the shot of Arnold with half his face off...
 
The FX were great. I love the shot of Arnold with half his face off...

The car crashes looked horrible. I could tell when there was CGI or not easily in this movie.
 
The FX were great. I love the shot of Arnold with half his face off...

Not to me, that's the thing I prefered a 1000 times the great prostetic make-up of T2 and the use of the animatronic arnold, instead of the digital make-up over green in T3. It looked far more realistic. And there's a scene that really put me off arnie has one part of his jaw skin ripped and you cloud see the silvery metal underneath, but then in another scene when he talks you can clearly see the supposed metal area move like it was skin and contort the same way. I said in that moment oh I get it now, the arnie terminator has a rubber endoskeleton.
 
No, it's an average flick with no soul and of course talk to da hand/ Unworthy of the terminator name.
 

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